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pitch increments on various hard-/software items

as the topic says:

I'm interested in the pitch % resolution you get from the various DJ CD-Players, DJ-Software, and digital Turntables on the market.

I know that 0.1% has been the standard for CD-Players for quite a while, wich isn't that great to work with.

Pioneers CDJ-200 has 0.05 / 0.02 depending on pitch range.

I have no idea if there are other players that have similar or even better pitch changing capabilities...

and how about software like Traktor 2 (3? <-- coming soon), FS, Serato etc...

since some manufacturers don't even tell on their site it would be nice to get a list going here.

if you know anything for sure and want to add, please post!
thx!

*edit*

the list so far (only those better than 0.1%)

Denon s3000 0.02 @ +/-4%, 0.1 otherwise
Denon s5000 0.02 @ +/-4%, 0.1 otherwise

Pioneer CDJ200 0.02 @ +/-6%, 0.05 otherwise
Pioneer CDJ800 0.05
Pioneer CDJ1000 0.05
Pioneer CMX3000 0.05

still unknown:
Denon s3500
Denon D9000
Technics SL-DZ1200EGS
Axis 9

Thedenon s3000 and s5000 have 0.02 @ +/-4%, 0.1 otherwise
The rest of the denons have 0.1
Numark CDX has 0.1
Pioneer CDJ100 has 0.1
Pioneer CDJ200 has 0.02
Pioneer CDJ800 has 0.05
Pioneer CMX3000 has 0.05
thats all i know off the top of my head
Final scratch and seraato would be as accurate as the turntables wouldnt they?

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Originally posted by bent Final scratch and seraato would be as accurate as the turntables wouldnt they?

true, didn't think about that...so it depends on the pitch range of your TT and the ability of your hands
I always had a hard time with my MK2 cause I increased the pitch to about +16%

thanks for the ones you posted!

so CDJ 200 is the most precise atm!?

Re: pitch increments on various hard-/software items

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Originally posted by djdawn since some manufacturers don't even tell on their site it would be nice to get a list going here.

the reason manufacturers dont tell u the pitch increments is probably cose it doesnt matter all that much its not that big a selling point.
If u can mix well it shouldnt make much of a difference if its .1% or .05%

Actually it wouldn't be as accurate as your tables. The tables play time-coded vinyl, which is sending out time "sounds" to the Serato/FS interface. The resolution will be determined by the software which "listens" to the time-coded sounds and plays the MP3's.

quote:

Originally posted by djdawn true, didn't think about that...so it depends on the pitch range of your TT and the ability of your hands I always had a hard time with my MK2 cause I increased the pitch to about +16% thanks for the ones you posted! so CDJ 200 is the most precise atm!?

Re: Re: pitch increments on various hard-/software items

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Originally posted by sleepydragon the reason manufacturers dont tell u the pitch increments is probably cose it doesnt matter all that much its not that big a selling point. If u can mix well it shouldnt make much of a difference if its .1% or .05%

I think it's especially important if you can mix well, cause then you can really line the tracks up and don't need to do corrections while in the transition. I always found .1 to be not enough

Re: Re: pitch increments on various hard-/software items

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Originally posted by sleepydragon the reason manufacturers dont tell u the pitch increments is probably cose it doesnt matter all that much its not that big a selling point. If u can mix well it shouldnt make much of a difference if its .1% or .05%

I think its the opposite. If you cant mix well it dosent really matter about the pitch increments because you arent going to get the songs perfectly matched anyway. But if you can mix well, and you want the speeds to be exactly matched its often not possible with a large increment, which can be really fustrating.

I guess this depends on how you mix though, some people like to have the song lined up so that they dont have to change anything throughout a mix, but some people are quite happy to be riding the pitch or pushing the platter throughout a mix.

anyone know how the Technics CD-Player does?

on the german site, there is almost NO info on it, cause it's only a little sub-part of the Panasonic website

actually, it might make more sense to just list the ones that are better than 0.1%

otherwise the list would become huge I guess

denon dns3500 has 02% and .05% for the �4/10% range

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