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Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 22:24:

To "see" a dj or to "hear" a dj?

until i came to tranceaddict, i had never heard anyone say "im going to see such and such" unless they were referring to a concert. Ive noticed that here practically everyone says "im going to see (insert dj)"

Now, i am or the belief that you dont go to "see" a dj, you go to "hear" him. ive taken several inventories of this and the conclusion seems to be the same with the people i know.

Could this just be a reflection of the younger generation's facination with the pop and image aspects of DJ culture as opposed to the art itself?

I hope not


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-29-2005 22:27:

I don't care what they look like. I do enjoy some crowd interaction, but that's about it. It's just a figure of speech.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I don't care what they look like. I do enjoy some crowd interaction, but that's about it. It's just a figure of speech.


but i really think it runs deeper than just a matter of speach. Ever since djing has been pop-afied (id say this started around 1999) ive heard this expression more and more.


Posted by jon jon on Sep-29-2005 22:33:

personally, I blame Canada


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
personally, I blame Canada



what are u? South park?

LOL


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-29-2005 22:35:

Do you say you go to hear a band or hear a band?

It's the same thing.


Posted by Chris Allen on Sep-29-2005 22:35:

I think it's a North American thing to be honest. More concerts I believe so people are used to that crazy stage presence.

I'm there to see the DJ and to feel the music. Of course I want crowd interaction because I love to see a DJ having fun, and rocking out to what they're playing and how the crowd is reacting.

However, above all, it's all about the music. If the music sucks, then he/she can hop around all night with a supermodel on his/her head for all I care.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Do you say you go to hear a band or hear a band?

It's the same thing.


no.. a concert is meant to be seen. A club gig with a dj is meant to be heard.


Posted by Sly_Guy on Sep-29-2005 22:37:

semantics jay. semantics.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Sly_Guy
semantics jay. semantics.


think about it though.... ive seen this statement evolve with the evolution of how djs are viewed. Before it was always "im going to hear such and such"

but now thanks to showboating this has changed.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-29-2005 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
I think it's a North American thing to be honest. More concerts I believe so people are used to that crazy stage presence.

I'm there to see the DJ and to feel the music. Of course I want crowd interaction because I love to see a DJ having fun, and rocking out to what they're playing and how the crowd is reacting.

However, above all, it's all about the music. If the music sucks, then he/she can hop around all night with a supermodel on his/her head for all I care.


+1


I would however like to see a supermodel sitting on a DJs head...that would be cool


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Sep-29-2005 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
but i really think it runs deeper than just a matter of speach. Ever since djing has been pop-afied (id say this started around 1999) ive heard this expression more and more.


speech* (it would be unfair if I only did it to LKD)

I think the saying stems from the fact that when you go to an event or a concert, you expect to *see* the performer put on a good show. Putting on a good show, however, consists of a lot of things - the music, the sound, how interesting they are, etc etc.

I usually either say:

"Going to [name]"

"Going to see [name] spin"

[Going to see [name]" when I'm too lazy to say one extra word.

None of these really mean that I'm going just to *see* the DJ, but I would like to see them actually do their thing, and not be hidden away somewhere. Adds to the atmosphere imo.

P.S. While we're on the issue of seeing DJs, I gotta say I do not understand the girls who say Tiesto's hot. He's not good looking by a long shot (I'm saying this in the least homo way possible). And PVD looks like a whiny nerd kid.

P.S.S. I'm a newbie compared to you jay, so I have no idea what the people were saying back in the good ol days.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 22:53:

but it was never about going to a "show"... and never should be. It should be about "going to get your groove on to some good tunes"...

shows are for madonna, not electronic djs.

if people gathered around to see the dj, it wasnt about worship, it ws about watching what he did on the decks and technically. Not about winks and god poses.


Posted by bARTovsky on Sep-29-2005 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I would however like to see a supermodel sitting on a DJs head...that would be cool




+1


Heidi Klum on Yoji Biomehanika


Posted by Chris Allen on Sep-29-2005 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
but it was never about going to a "show"... and never should be. It should be about "going to get your groove on to some good tunes"...

shows are for madonna, not electronic djs.

if people gathered around to see the dj, it wasnt about worship, it ws about watching what he did on the decks and technically. Not about winks and god poses.

I agree to a point. I always love to sit there and just see how a DJ works. But I think it has evolved from just seeing what the DJ is doing to the DJ showing his appreciation.

A DJ who throws his hands up at a breakdown or jumps around energetically will undoubtoubly give energy to the crowd because the crowd senses that the DJ is enjoying himself, and vice versa. They feed off one another.

There's something about dance music that is so wonderful though, the ability to make anyone move: be it jump around like a crazy banshee or a head nod or foot tap. It's there to insinuate and bring out movement in people.

I always try to get a vantage point of the DJ somehow, be it from the floor at Guvvy, the DJ booth at Republik, etc. I always want to see the DJ do his thing. Maybe it's because I'm a DJ and I like to see how others do their thing, I don't know. But I will always go for the music before anything.


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 23:09:

i like to watch the dj sometimes, but only when it comes to what he is doing technically. I dont really care about how he looks, how he poses, nor how he winks. Mostly though i just go to have a good time.

If dj worshipping is "evolution" then i wish we could have stayed in the dark ages. LOL


Posted by VERTiG0 on Sep-29-2005 23:15:

Basically I choose whom I go to see/hear based on their past performances or recent sets I've heard, like Ferry Corsten, I almost always enjoy all the tunes in each set he plays.

I go to hear songs I like hearing.


Posted by nadezhda on Sep-29-2005 23:19:

i go to HEAR a dj, cos if the music sucks, why would i be there?

but sometimes i like to see them as well

but i do say i'm going to "see" so and so...same as if i'm going to a concert. big deal.


Posted by Orko on Sep-29-2005 23:20:

I believe saying that, "I am going to hear a dj", is just odd.

Did ever stop and think that some people get really hyped because the dj actually plays what they want? Yes I love Oakenfold, you may not. But he consistantly plays the tracks i want to hear. Is that not the job of a dj, to play tracks that people actually want to hear?

I get super excited about DJs because i finally get a chance to 'experience' in person, what i have only heard through my computer speakers.

People still go for the party, for the fun, and vibe. If we start chanting TIESTO, or OAKENFOLD, its because we are enjoying their set, get over it. Sometimes a DJs sound just hits you so deep you need to chant, cry, go histarical. The music is a journey, and some DJs just take you through that journey better than others.

Long live music! Long live the DJ! Long live the crowd!


Posted by Sean Cassidy on Sep-29-2005 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur

P.S. While we're on the issue of seeing DJs, I gotta say I do not understand the girls who say Tiesto's hot. He's not good looking by a long shot (I'm saying this in the least homo way possible). And PVD looks like a whiny nerd kid.



In the most homo way possible...........

I would agree with you on that as well............neither of them do it for me either

Now the last DJ that I did actually go "SEE" was KAI TRACID for the Destiny party at the Docks in February .......

KAI TRACID IS HAWT!!!

I HAD NO PROBLEM STATING THAT I WAS GOING TO SEE HIM SPIN!!!




Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 23:28:

the job of electronic music djs was to play the songs that people want to hear but dont know yet. A long with some favourites. Now its become a bad thing if less than 80% of tracks played are not on someone's ipod at home. Thats just not right. When i go to hear a dj i go to hear new fresh amazing tunes, not some human jukebox.


Posted by nadezhda on Sep-29-2005 23:34:

yes, everything was better "back in the day"


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by nadezhda
yes, everything was better "back in the day"


not saying that necissarly, but it would be good to have that vibe back that used to be. Today's "vibe" at clubs is downright negative at times.


Posted by Pett on Sep-29-2005 23:37:

who gives a shit?
im going to fuckin party


Posted by Jayx1 on Sep-29-2005 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
who gives a shit?
im going to fuckin party


thats the kind of attitude that it should be about...

congratulations, you win a prize LOL


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