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EU, U.S. set for Internet showdown
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| EU, U.S. set for Internet showdown BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) -- The European Union insisted Friday that governments and the private sector must share the responsibility of policing the Internet. The United States wants to remain the Internet's ultimate authority, rejecting calls in a United Nations meeting in Geneva for a U.N. body to take over. EU spokesman Martin Selmayr rejected American claims that the EU had changed direction. "We are looking for a new cooperation model, a model that allows Internet governance and the laying down of public policy principles in coordination by all countries which are interested in the governance of the Internet because the Internet is a global resource," he said. "The EU ... is very firm on this position." The Geneva talks were the last preparatory meeting before November's World Summit on the Information Society in Tunisia. Negotiators said there was a growing sense that a compromise had to be reached and that no single country ought to be the ultimate authority over such a vital part of the global economy. A top U.S. official said the U.S. was "deeply disappointed" with an EU proposal made Wednesday, which appeared to support wresting control of domain names from the U.S.-based Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN, and placing it with an intergovernmental group, possibly under the United Nations. "We will not agree to the U.N. taking over the management of the Internet," said Ambassador David Gross, the U.S. coordinator for international communications and information policy at the State Department. "Some countries want that. We think that's unacceptable." But Selmayr insisted the EU and U.S. were not that far apart, although tensions have scuppered any chance of agreement in Geneva this week. "That doesn't mean they're won't be a result in the end," he said. "We are very close with the United States on a number of important principles. It is not for governments to control the Internet. We need more private sector involvement and the current working methods of ICANN are very efficient." The stalemate over who should serve as the principal traffic police for Internet routing and addressing may derail the November summit, which aims to ensure a fair sharing of the Internet for the benefit of the whole world. Internet governance historically has been the role of the U.S., which created the original system and funded much of its early development. While this satisfies some, developing countries are upset that Western countries that got onto the Internet first used up most available addresses required for computers to connect, leaving poor nations to share a limited supply. ICANN now controls the Internet's master directories, which tell Web browsers and e-mail programs how to direct traffic. Net surfers worldwide use them daily but policy decisions could, at a stroke, make all Web sites ending in a specific suffix essentially unreachable. Though the computers themselves -- 13 in all, known as "root" servers -- are in private hands, they contain government-approved lists of the 260 or so Internet suffixes, such as ".com." In 1998, the U.S. Commerce Department selected ICANN, a private organization with international board members, to decide what goes on those lists. Commerce kept veto power, but indicated it would let go once ICANN met a number of conditions. But earlier this year, the United States indicated Commerce would keep that control, regardless of whether and when those conditions were met. A U.N. panel has outlined four possible options for the future of Internet governance, ranging from keeping the current system intact to revamping it under new international agencies formed under the auspices of the U.N. Find this article at: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/in...t.ap/index.html |
if it an't broke don't fix it.
Re: EU, U.S. set for Internet showdown
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| Originally posted by josh4 I think the fact that the Internet is such a vital part of the global economy is a perfect reason NOT to let the U.N. have anything to do with it. |
Yeah keep it as it is, when it comes to free speech there is no country on earth with respect for it like the US. Last thing I want to see is censoring of the internet (although we are starting to see some over here, for example for child porn, I'm affraid that's only a start though). At least that's the feeling I have that would happen if European countries got a vote in governing the Internet.
So yeah, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Could only be worse imo.
And those countries whining about lack of free IP addresses (at least that's what I think they meant in the article?). Did they ever hear about IPv6?!
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew Last thing I want to see is censoring of the internet |
^^^what do you mean by that casino and gambling businesses? Ay what a shame they could give the state and fed a lot of taxes if they only could be in the US. Anyways I believe the EU would be a lot more effective running the internet so ppl do not get screwed and the EU would also make sure that less viruses are sent and less computers would be hacked into. But you know that takes a lot of fun out of the internet. Which is something the EU does not understand.
And no internet taxes!!!!
I don't care as long as there is absolutely no censorship
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| Originally posted by Sunsnail I don't care as long as there is absolutely no censorship |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew And those countries whining about lack of free IP addresses (at least that's what I think they meant in the article?). Did they ever hear about IPv6?! |
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| Originally posted by trancaholic I think that they are whining about all the good *.com, *.net, and *.org URLs being taken. At least the rest of the article seems to be about URLs and the root DNS servers being in the US. |
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| Originally posted by St_Andrew Yeah keep it as it is, when it comes to free speech there is no country on earth with respect for it like the US. Last thing I want to see is censoring of the internet (although we are starting to see some over here, for example for child porn, I'm affraid that's only a start though). At least that's the feeling I have that would happen if European countries got a vote in governing the Internet. |
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| Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Yeah, they may even ban animal porn too! |
Not to burst your bubble but a little additional info...
U.N. : Hands off the Net!
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ght=%22ICANN%22
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Not to burst your bubble but a little additional info... U.N. : Hands off the Net! http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ght=%22ICANN%22 |
But I have the better image...
The US and the UN need to leave the Internet the fuck alone. Honestly I don't think anyone in their right minds would want the Internet to be fucking policed by some damn government who would obviously hold the right to censor shit at will. Christ... what's next? Our bank accounts? Oh wait it's already being done. I'd say FUCK whatever the world governments say and leave something to us and as far as spam goes yeah.. thanx but a big fuck u.. we've already taken care of that shit ourselves and probably will in the future.
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I think a lot of you are whining about something you have very little knowledge about. What the US controls is the DNS registry of the Internet. It is used to translate text strings like www.tranceaddict.com into IP addresses which your computer can connect to. This does not in any way give the US the possibility to monitor or censor all net traffic. Furthermore, if these registries would somehow disappear, most countries internal address space (e.g. .dk for me) would still work, as there's a lot of secondary servers holding partial registries that are not placed in the US.
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| Originally posted by trancaholic I think a lot of you are whining about something you have very little knowledge about. What the US controls is the DNS registry of the Internet. It is used to translate text strings like www.tranceaddict.com into IP addresses which your computer can connect to. This does not in any way give the US the possibility to monitor or censor all net traffic. Furthermore, if these registries would somehow disappear, most countries internal address space (e.g. .dk for me) would still work, as there's a lot of secondary servers holding partial registries that are not placed in the US. |
Exactly.
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| Originally posted by trancaholic I think a lot of you are whining about something you have very little knowledge about. What the US controls is the DNS registry of the Internet. It is used to translate text strings like www.tranceaddict.com into IP addresses which your computer can connect to. This does not in any way give the US the possibility to monitor or censor all net traffic. Furthermore, if these registries would somehow disappear, most countries internal address space (e.g. .dk for me) would still work, as there's a lot of secondary servers holding partial registries that are not placed in the US. |
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