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Posted by kixalot on Oct-02-2005 07:04:

backspins

so what's the secret to getting a nice fat backspin with vinyl?

Posted by wee_rooney on Oct-02-2005 08:26:

there is no secret

but a wee tip;
if you hit the brake/stop on the tt then do it, it'll spin much faster and for longer.

Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-02-2005 11:08:

i guarantee u 90% of the backspins u hear most djs doing nowadays are with cdj-1000 or equivalent.

otherwise it depends on the weight of the vinyl and the tune being backspun.

Posted by Chris d(-_-)b on Oct-02-2005 13:05:

I usually kill the low freqs or at least lower the level since backspins sound better without the a strong beat i my opinion.

Posted by skip on Oct-02-2005 13:47:

the secret to backspins is to not do them, because they sound stupid.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-02-2005 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
the secret to backspins is to not do them, because they sound stupid.

...especially if you do them every 10 minutes (*cough*Proteus*cough*)

Posted by djdawn on Oct-02-2005 17:17:

my tip would be to NOT hit the record too hard vertically cause there's quite a danger of the needle scipping which will rouin your backspin for sure!

just give it a good straight pull horizontally and don't hit the tonearm while doing so!

otherwise, timing is important to make it a nice effect. I used to end some transitions with a backspin and it does NOT sound stupid when done in a nice fashion

Posted by razzi on Oct-03-2005 05:59:

quote:
there is no secret

but a wee tip;
if you hit the brake/stop on the tt then do it, it'll spin much faster and for longer.

[/QUOTE]I usually kill the low freqs or at least lower the level since backspins sound better without the a strong beat i my opinion.[/QUOTE]

two keys. but yeah, nowadays everyone uses cdjs because its basically foolproof.

razzi.

Posted by Exodus17 on Oct-03-2005 19:57:

count your beats

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 3 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 4 2 3 4 5 6 7 8|1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 3 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 4 2 3 4 5 6 7 8|

each # is a beat/kick

count to 8... 4 times twice
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 3 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 4 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 3 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 4 2 3 4 5 6 7 8|

on the last 7 (see below) most tracks will be at the end of the breakdown or buildup whatever(depends on your tracks, get to know when stuff happens)

pull your backspin on that last 7 and slap the crossfader on the 8 to kill and complete the mix
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 3 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 4 2 3 4 5 6 7 8|1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 3 2 3 4 5 6 7 8| 4 2 3 4 5 6 7 8|

kinda confusing but makes sense after time...

as said b4 its usually a good idea to do no more than 2 backspins in a set, anymore than 2 and it gets old and you look like a douche behind the decks

Posted by djdawn on Oct-03-2005 20:33:

you can also pull it on the last 5 instead of 7 if you can make long enough ones.

Posted by T-Soma on Oct-04-2005 05:59:

You will get slightly different backspins depending on your TTs, slippmats and records. I just stay away from backspins.

Posted by Nic on Oct-04-2005 08:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Exodus17
as said b4 its usually a good idea to do no more than 2 backspins in a set, anymore than 2 and it gets old and you look like a douche behind the decks

I say one is the max, unless its a really long set and then you could probably do 2

Posted by wee_rooney on Oct-04-2005 08:53:

and dont do it just to hide bad mixing!

Posted by webbie on Oct-04-2005 12:35:

Don't do it on warped vinyl because in most cases it will make the needle jump.

Posted by kixalot on Oct-04-2005 22:39:

thanks for the tips guys. I am just having trouble getting that really nice consistency although now that you mention it, it does sound like they're on CDJ's for that speed and sweet sweet sound.