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[Psy]Cybernetika - Dimorphic Blackcell (192 kbps, full)

Hey folks,
Here's a new track I've made... perhaps one of the hardest Cybernetika tunes out there ... I call this style "end of the world Psy". You will see why when listening
It's a dark nighttime raver with lots of atmosphere, harsh FX, dirty acidlines and a pounding industrial rythm @152BPM. Any of you who liked my tune "Chaosphere" wont be disappointed

Name: Dimorphic Blackcell
Length: 10:12
Bitrate: 192kbps
Filesize: 14MB

The link:
Download Cybernetika - Dimorphic Blackcell

/update:
MegaMan's mastered version of the track, which sounds better, can be found here:
ftp://512project.homeftp.net ... thanks to him.

awesome start, awesome gating!
amazing fx!
1:44, baseline introduced, fx!!!!!
2:09, great, very nice
3:00, k, full introduction i suppose, i just love those watersplash effects, its nice how you pan gated em, they take most of your bandwith too, i'd say you did a nice job on balancing too.
5:06, sick synths, sounds like a real thing, very astral projection feeling to it, dark as usual..
dude, i will leesan to another half when i am done puting it on my minidisk, this track is great.
cant get any better than this, and you know it.
to be honest, this is the first really pro, hours spent on it track by you that i think is excellent and trully flawless and totally correspond to full on psy standards.

Thanks mate, I really feel honored. You wont be disappointed about the second half I think

* listening *

cool vocals.. awesome psy effects.. i dont really fall for stuff thats this fast, but it sounds great..i dont have anything consctructive to bring actually, sounds like a complete psy track to me.. although i prefer more linear and not so intense psy myself though..

im glad to see ppl do their own thing u have a good future in this genre..

Thanks Subtle. That kind of feedback is really important to me

6:12- good drive
6:36-brake down
gated female vocals and a brakebeat would be killer tho
6:59-7- drive again
7:25-good delay and gate work, you make it sound "real"
8:40, fx are great, no doubt about that
i love that tu-do on the left, and the one that follows on the right, it goes along with the melody, everything creates certain feeling and pardons itself with respect to all other aspects.
your pitch work, however, i can hear actual bpm chage, you need to find better ways to do those loops.

hmmmm, also i believe you loose lots of frequencies, i actually mastered this track just now, i was able to recover almost 85% percent of all possible frequencies, and it sounds great on monitors.
(you can get it off ftp://512project.homeftp.net)

sub-frequencies can also be improved with different eq settings in close range.

brakedowns, dont be afraid to go crazy with drums, especially at the last segment of the loop, either bass or kick when byitself, sounds good since if you would of played kick only, it would normally follow by the bass and since bass is abscent now, you can play alll other elements which if compressed properly, would sound well.

i have a few questions about you compressing, do you compress bass/kick as a whole or seperate, and how many compressors do you use in total and where, at what settings.

Well thanks a lot mate for these insights, I'll see what I can do with it (and where I get female vox from )

I'll also have a listen to your mastered tune... I know some frequencies are a little heavy but it's still difficult for me to keep the track sound tight without these little overdrives. I'll try some more limiters maybe...

You have to be wrong about the pitch shifting though, I never made BPM change, just pitched up bass/lead notes in FLstudio, so it's quite impossible

Well, about compressor settings...
I always compress kick and bass seperately, compressing them together wont work for me. I compress the kick with 'classic' comp settings, which means almost no threshold and low ratio, but a little gain. The VSTplugin Voxengo Crunchessor kinda helped me a lot here. The bass however needs to be compressed at rather 'peak surpressing' settings, that means max ratio, more threshold and quite an amount of gain. This is usually good for a bass with more sub frequencies. A more punchy bass with stronger peaks rather needs a compressor setting with less ratio and threshold. I usually do this by ear and cant provide a rule of thumb hence.
Then I also got compressors on leads and lead FX, with ratio 6:1, 12db threshold, and adjusted gain until it 'fits'.
In order to make them better audible, vocals need maximum compression, meaning high threshold, high gain as well as compressor ratio.
Some of the percussion needs compression too, with more gain and lower attack time to make the peaks stronger.

Your mastered version is very good. I like what you did to the mastering of the track. The harshest frequencies are out of the tune now. Thanks

no prob m8
any time, i can almost guarantee any of your tunes will improve in sound somewhere from 5%-25% in cubase.

Nice sample.

Ooh, gating at one is nice and trippy.

Sounds at 2:12 are a little harsh.

4:15 is fun.

Not bad stuff.

Hi, really hard psy-trance... the beat grooves really well, maybe a little bit too much high freqs in some of the hihats but it could be my monitors also. Nice psy-effects all along the track!! The calmer part before 3 min is nice... the song could be better with a clearer structure... and it is perhaps too lengthy also. The speech sample works well, overall really dark atmosphere in the track and the beat at the end is really really cool. Nice work...

Best regards, Lakeus

Thanks a lot for your comments, jex and Lakeus
I already thought about changing the structure a little, yep

Hey mate,

I am not much a psy listener but just felt like checking this track out because I like to hear other music than I produce myself.

I really like the energy and atmosphere in this track and the fx you use (best audible at around 4.55) is wicked

I can't really judge if this is any good in the psytrancegenre but I do think it is quite hard, spooky and original and the track has a great drive.

Totally agree with Subtle, good to see people do their own thing.

Cheers mate!

Thanks a lot Nomen Nescio for your encouraging feedback

Hey Lars, just finished listening. Nice work mate.


This is a very drawn out track. Almost progressive in its structure. I think it could benefit from some greater variation or drive in the percussion. The track has a heavy tribal feel to it. Perhaps slipping in a second kick somewhere near the end of the track could help to drive it home really hard. It hammers really hard but some slight variation in the percs could really spice it up.

5.32 Synths that kick in here could be more dynamic I think. They are sounding very compressed and thin. I feel they could really dominate for atleast 32 bars and then maybe recede back into something more layered and textured. They are really brought out at 6.30 and I found myself wanting a clearer sound from them.

I know I've said it before, but try slipping in something other than vanguard. Not 100% sure, but it does sound very much like the green machine. You need more contrast in your sounds, even just in short breakdown sections.

8.40 Synths here are killer. This drives it home really hard. Excellent ending!!

Pads throughout are well done too. Really nice dark ambience. This smacks of Etnica and Plaedians something fierce.

Your mastering and production keep getting tighter with each track and the structure on this one is a bit like some of your older ones, but much tighter. Samples are very cool as always. Synth programming is solid as always and very twisted.

To be honest though, I'm waiting for the next evolution in your tracks. This is another excellent cybernetica track, but I'm wondering where your going to go next?

Going round for a second listen now...

wow sick vocals, where they from?
right from go this track got sick ass dark vibes in it which i like.
ahh yes, listening in from the song from start, this name suits it well.

i like dark and hard tracks lol. this has some nice sounds too it, and some typical cyberntica feel to the synths. your melodies always have this random quality to it which i like, you must be burstin wif ideas when you go to make a song.

2:35, i like how that ended.

3:00 Oo dark! haha

5:11 still new stuff coming out
6:50 sounding nice there, like that punchy synth line

in all not a bad track i just have some down points to give.

i wouldve liked it more if there was a more dominate them through the song, like some main melody. the song was a bit long and the melody kinda droned for a long time. its prolly cause im used to listening to different styles of trance and not sure what psy trance is all about, but yeh those are just my thoughts.

nice production with this one, keep up the good work.

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