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Posted by EtherealSL on Oct-05-2005 12:55:

So I'm thinking about finally DJing

After a few years of production work and working a lot as a bedroom producer, i've decided to finally take up DJing. sounds like a lot of fun, and i'd love to throw a party somewhere, something that deals with music i like outside of my bedroom.

i'm thinking about spinning trance and drum n bass, breakbeats or something... most likely not hip hop, here in the city i'm sure there's a million other hip hop DJs and it really doesn't offer much room for creativity, you either play 50 cent or stfu

anyways, i've been saving up and have around a thousand dollars (a little flexible here with budget if it is truly a great deal) to spend on equipment. I need everything: headphones, mixer, tables.

I'm pretty much set on CD tables as they have cheaper media (i heart digital downloads), less wear and tear, more compact, and i can play my own songs . I would like to have turntables that have the scratchign features.

after a bit of research, i'm still very very lost.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by CosmoKid on Oct-05-2005 13:08:

what are you lost about?

1k for all your equipment is going to be tight.

you can get

2 x Pioneer CDJ-200 ($350 each) = $700
1 x some $200 mixer (pcv275/pio707) = $200
Sony 7506 Cans - $100

I dont actually know if the cdj200s can scratch since i dont scratch.

You cna also try getting used equipment off Ebay.

Posted by EtherealSL on Oct-05-2005 13:15:

teh cdj 200s have been recommended to me and they look great, actually

BUT no scratching and i don't know if that's a feature i would like to sacrifice because for what i want to do, scratching may be a necessity.

i'm currently reading up on headphones and am considering a few things... gluegun seems to be obsessed with the sony v6s but i also have heard bad things as well so... (omg i really should be studying for my exams)

Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-05-2005 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by EtherealSL
teh cdj 200s have been recommended to me and they look great, actually

BUT no scratching and i don't know if that's a feature i would like to sacrifice because for what i want to do, scratching may be a necessity.

i'm currently reading up on headphones and am considering a few things... gluegun seems to be obsessed with the sony v6s but i also have heard bad things as well so... (omg i really should be studying for my exams)

3 things

1. cdj-800

2. v6s are awesome any one who says theyre shit about them is stupid. the only problem is the pads fade with heavy use. nothing that cant be easily and cheaply repalced. no other can has a good a trakc record for the price.

3. pio 707 or pcv 275 FTW. dont look at anythign less than those.

Posted by CosmoKid on Oct-05-2005 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by EtherealSL
teh cdj 200s have been recommended to me and they look great, actually

BUT no scratching and i don't know if that's a feature i would like to sacrifice because for what i want to do, scratching may be a necessity.

i'm currently reading up on headphones and am considering a few things... gluegun seems to be obsessed with the sony v6s but i also have heard bad things as well so... (omg i really should be studying for my exams)

the v6 and the 7506 is basically the same headphone. the 7506 has gold plated connectors which arent going to make a difference. everything else is the same.

you may be thinking of the v600 which is much different and VERY crappy.

Posted by punjabi on Oct-05-2005 16:33:

i have the sony v6's. they work very nicely and i also use them for listening to music other than when im mixing.

Posted by EtherealSL on Oct-05-2005 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress

1. cdj-800

please correct me if i'm wrong, but i understand that the price difference between cdj 200s and 800s are not that large. this is due to the pitch control. The cdj 800 is not as precise as the 200.

Will this difference in precision be that big of a factor when mixing?

Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-05-2005 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by EtherealSL
please correct me if i'm wrong, but i understand that the price difference between cdj 200s and 800s are not that large. this is due to the pitch control. The cdj 800 is not as precise as the 200.

Will this difference in precision be that big of a factor when mixing?

hmm.. not HUUGE.. but somewhat noticable..

cdj-800 = .05%
cdj-200 = .02%

MOST players are .1%

im a final scratch whore myself but when i use an 800 or the cmx-3000 (another fine choice but scratching isnt great.. only ok..) im perfectly fine using .05%

Posted by sleepydragon on Oct-05-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by EtherealSL
Will this difference in precision be that big of a factor when mixing?

no u probably wont get that good to notice for a long while anyway but i dont think it makes that big a difference

Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-05-2005 19:37:

i can mix seamlessly with .1 pitch increments

i agree with dino, cdj-800, sony v6/7506 headphones (i use em and will never use another headphone again) and they'll be perfect for you since you produce as well, they make great monitor headphones

as for a mixer, pioneer djm-707 is probably the best bang for your buck

Posted by EtherealSL on Oct-05-2005 21:00:

awesome... looks like i'll start looking into cdj 800 prices...

if the v6 is truly as good as everybody says, then it'll work out perfectly since i'm looking for some good headphone monitors for production

mixers i haven't looked at much yet, but thanks for getting me started on that... looks like its gonna be a pioneer setup for me

thanks a lot guys... i'm gonna posting in this part of TA moreoften now...

... once i get my equipment, that is.

Posted by EtherealSL on Oct-05-2005 21:09:

hmm... how does the IXOS Ministry of Sound DJ1001s compare to the v6?

i've read a couple reviews that just rave about it.

Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-05-2005 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by EtherealSL
hmm... how does the IXOS Ministry of Sound DJ1001s compare to the v6?

i've read a couple reviews that just rave about it.

No, get the V6s. I'm another who has them and loves them. Why would you consider getting generic crap instead of them? You will not go wrong with the Sony's.

(Plus, you can find reviews that rave about Behringer stuff )

Posted by xstalkrx on Oct-06-2005 00:07:

the v6 dont swivel do they? how can you listen to music on these kind of headphones when the jack is so big and cant even fit in the back of a computer?

Posted by DJ Intrigue on Oct-06-2005 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
the v6 dont swivel do they? how can you listen to music on these kind of headphones when the jack is so big and cant even fit in the back of a computer?

If you mean movement from side to side, no the v6/7506 don't swivel in that way. As for your second question, the normal 1/8" jack needed for standard music listening is hidden under the 1/4" larger jack. The larger jack you see in all the pictures is actually a separate adapter which is able to be unscrewed from the cabling to allow for equipment that uses the smaller connection and the 1/8" jack is right there once you remove the adapter.

Posted by xstalkrx on Oct-06-2005 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
If you mean movement from side to side, no the v6/7506 don't swivel in that way. As for your second question, the normal 1/8" jack needed for standard music listening is hidden under the 1/4" larger jack. The larger jack you see in all the pictures is actually a separate adapter which is able to be unscrewed from the cabling to allow for equipment that uses the smaller connection and the 1/8" jack is right there once you remove the adapter.

ya but the 1/4 inch jack is not on a computer right?

Posted by EtherealSL on Oct-06-2005 04:40:

Sideways Swivel isn't that much of a necessity is it?

Hmm.. you all are pretty set on the v6, it looks pretty oldschool but i'll take your word for it and give 'em a shot.... now to find cheap cdj 800s, they're much more expensive than i thought...

Posted by Omega_Blue on Oct-06-2005 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
i can mix seamlessly with .1 pitch increments

+1 i don't see what the big deal is.

if budget is an issue i'd suggest denon dn-s1000's for scratching, or cdj-200's for precision/bang for buck.

if not, cdj-800s or dn-s3000's

...i hear the v6's are pretty much the same as the 7506's...

Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-06-2005 08:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
...i hear the v6's are pretty much the same as the 7506's...

not pretty much the same, they ARE the same.

Unless you want to nitpick and count a gold plated plug as a difference (which c'mon, its the most pissweak difference), and red instead of blue stickers.........

btw, personally (and I don't know how this fits with your budget, and I don't know a lot about CD players), but I'd get a Vestax PCV-275 mixer (have one, good mixer) and the Pio 800s.

Posted by DJ Intrigue on Oct-06-2005 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
ya but the 1/4 inch jack is not on a computer right?

No, not that I've ever seen, but as long as you take off the adapter, it really doesn't matter anyway cause you can still use them with your computer.