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Headfones
*** ok so I cut the comments below from an earlier thread about equipment and had a question about headfones (HF). on the computer i use at the university i use a pair of Sony MDR-CD170 to listen to choonz so that i don't piss the other ppl off in the room. i've had them for at least 5yrs.
i am gunna pick up myself a pair of deks and other other equipment to start spinnin' in about a year and was wondering if other ppl around here thought if these HF i have at the moment would be ok to use 4 djing ?
Cheers
BJeT
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Have you got headphones? If not I would reccommend the Sony MDR-7506 for £139 from htfr, or if this is too much then the Technics RPDJ-1200 for £99. Another excellent set of headphones is the Sony MDR-V6, which cost about $80 in the states, but are very hard to get hold of here. Stay clear of the Sony MDR-V700DJ at all costs!
*looks at your sig*
Well, it seems you know enough about what is *good*, heheh. Now, the question is, "is what you have good enough"? Uh, to start out with, they might be, but try and upgrade soon. The CD170's aren't known for having much any redeeming qualities! Heck, even the Philips HP550's would be better headphones than those! (Those are cheap, supraural, good sounding, flashy closed headphones--that slaughter most of the sony lines in sound quality! They only isolate a little, however.) Any ways, you might not know that the MDR-V6 = MDR-7506. They are the same headphones, heheh. Also, be sure to get the velour replacement pads for the DT250 headphones Beyerdynamic, and put them on the V6's, if you get them.
Heck, I think that, where you are, teh V6's/7506's might be so overpriced, that you might as well go with the cans one step up!! What I am talking about don't fold in any way, but they are great for DJing if you dont need something to fold. They are the Beyerdynamic DT250. Beyerdynamic makes two models of this, one is 80 ohms for equipment with no power, and one is a more expensive, better sounding, 250 ohms version that, if you can get past the fact that they don't fold, are what I would consider the best DJ headphones on the planet. Remember! Even the V6's outclass Sennheiser's best offering, the HD25 (except for the fact that the hd25's fold *every* way, and some NEED that feature. These are supposedly the "best DJ headphones in the world." Pfeh...only if you need the side folding), and the DT250-80's outclass the V6's, and the DT250-250's outclass the DT250-80's...so....
Also, I have heard *incredibly* mixed reviews on the headphones that Sennheiser is now trying to advertise for DJ's, a set of theirs that blocks out an *ungodly* amount of outside sound, the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.
any ways, here are some threads for getting the V6 in australia.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...=&threadid=2978
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...=&threadid=3097
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...s=&threadid=629
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...s=&threadid=307
Here is some MDR-CD170 info. Granted, there isn't much, but here you go:
http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=1925
http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=2165
Re: Headfones
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| Originally posted by BJeT Have you got headphones? If not I would reccommend the Sony MDR-7506 for £139 from htfr, or if this is too much then the Technics RPDJ-1200 for £99. Another excellent set of headphones is the Sony MDR-V6, which cost about $80 in the states, but are very hard to get hold of here. Stay clear of the Sony MDR-V700DJ at all costs! |
Hey man, I've been reading this...there's one thing that isn't accurate here:
http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/user-bin/T.J...ge=DJ+Equipment
The MDR-7506's have the exact same cups as the others. Same paint job, too (I found that out after believing otherwise, heh. whoopsie.) Any ways, the only difference is the plug, which is gold plated instead of not, and the decal on it (says mdr-7506 instead of mdr-v6), the fact that they come with a parts sheet, and their cost. By the way, you might want to mention the Beyerdynamic DT250 pads... and, hell, depending on how strong your mixer's headphone jack is, you might wanna try the DT250-80's or the DT250-250's. 
Hey, thanks for picking that up! I'll change that when I get time.
If you fancy adding to my site you could do a review for the DT250 if you want - what do you say?
Thanks man!
No thanks, I'm not in a position to! 
If you wanna upgrade, though...
Hey, was wondering if U guys could comment mine? I have no idea how good are they...
I have a Sony MDR - CD380 brandnew and I bought em for 260 NIS which is, like, 65$ ....
First of all, was I ripped?
Second, is this good as the choice for my first ever DJing phones?
Thanx a lot!
I did a search for "CD380" at head-fi and headwize, and here are some quotes i came up with...
"Just digging up this old thread...
Now I'm retracting my opinion that the MDR-CD#80 headphones are even okay. The mid-priced versions from the CD380 to the CD780 are boomy and closed-in sounding - and don't block out any outside noise, to boot! Gyah. Those Sony cans sound about the same as Sennheiser's 'crappy, overpriced' HD 500 - and worse than AKG's lowly K66! No wonder why people such as Gluegun and I REALLY hate those mid-level Sonys!!! "
"Joe, I took a 20 second listen to the CD380s when I had my Grados, and I thought they sounded good. Probably because I was so relieved to hear a darker sounding phone. This was on an anemic recording, though. After listening to my AKGs for so long, I went and listened to my friends Sony CD-380s and found them untolerably horrible. They had a closed, glob in front of your cranium soundstage, SEVERELY veiled highs and mids (asif you were listening behind a wall of bed mattresses), absolutely NO detail to speak of, and the most exaderated bass I had ever heard in my life. They wouldent fit on my head properly, so they were un comfortable, and they wouldent auto-ajust unless I pulled each side down manually."
"Gluegun, now I know why you said those so-called "closed-front/open-back" headphones combine the worst features of both open and closed headphones... Most of the mid-priced models of that Sony MDR-CD#80 series are boomy and closed-in and don't block any outside noise! Gyah. No wonder why you hate them! [Well, actually Sony just doesn't have enough experience in their design! Similarly designed models from AKG and Sennheiser are WAY better than those Sonys, as a whole! Even the lowly AKG K66 ($40) sounds better than any Sony MDR-CD#80 series headphones up to CD780 ($100)!]"
(Note from Gluegun: The AKG K66 isn't that great)
OOO! Some neat threads!
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...highlight=CD380
http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=1228
http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=2505
Well, to summarize, no, you can't really use them for DJing. They are *way* too open. Some people at headwize felt they were mediocre for the price, actually worth buying, sometimes....
...And then the Philips HP550's came out (small, cheap, good sounding, supraural, closed, block out only a little sound, but more than the open MDR-CD380's! If you are considering the any of the currently produced CD### line of headphones, I strongly suggest you look at these Philips instead!), which squashed them like the bug they are.
Here's a relatively positive review of the CD380's...it even compares them to the V6...this is before the Philips, btw. Also, I would consider the Philips a only DJ headphones if you are *very* desperate...but at least they are better than the Sony's...
http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...5&fdays=&stime=
Hya thanx a lot Glue!
This'll help me a lot to choose what to start with!
Only wish I would've found this site before I bought my MDRCD380...
I guess that's what you get when you buy at Tower Records... LMAO.
1 more thing, can U plz explain some terms to me?
- Open / Close
- 104 Efficiency
- OHM
P.S. Does sound like I got robbed at daylight ;(
Read this! It tells you all you need to know!
http://headwize.com/articles/hguide_art.htm
And anyone who wants to know the basics of headphone-ese would do well to read that, as well...
Well....
You're in Israel... even with the MDR-V6's, you might be able to consider yourself robbed... the MDR-V6's and MDR-7506's are kinda hard to find there, and, if you do, they are probably expensive...
I already interested "Yuval" of these forums in finding the MDR-V6's, and he's in Israel...
uh...I don't know how successful he is. Last thing I remember on the subject is that I did a search for "Sony" and "Israel" on Google, and got a few phone numbers. I don't know what KIND of places/companies I found, but I don't think he's gotten back to me.. I don't even know if he called them. Anyways, he did post on head-fi asking for some help, and that kinda fizzled too...
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...=&threadid=4953
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TO ANYONE INTERESTED IN BUYING THESE HEADPHONES:
Here are a few places for the *US* that have them for cheap. Regardless of which country you are in, these places might be the cheapest way to buy them. I suggest you ask about shipping and relevant costs, if you are buying outside the US, and compare this cost to any other, more local way that you can get the MDR-V6 or MDR-7506. Also, some times, prices might be sooo inflated for the V6 that the cost difference between the V6 and the DT250-80 is only, like, $20. I think this is the case in Australia. If that's the case, screw the V6's--go for the DT250's!!
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/etronicsnet/sonmdrv6.html
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cyberdi...nmdstudmon.html
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/shopsun...headphones.html
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hogwildstore/mdrv6.html
Hmm just something to consider ... people on head-fi and headwize are mostly audiophiles, right ? Audiophile headphones should be geared for best listening experience. For DJ headphones there is some other aspects that might be more important then optimal soundfield, depth, and such. Sometimes a headphone that doesn't sound that great but is reliable and robust would be a much better choice for the given situation. The V6, for example, would be a really bad choice for me because I like folding my headphones in several different ways depending on monitor position, overall sound levels and sound quality in the DJ booth, etc ... V700 fall off my head 'coz they're too heavy. I use the HD-25 because they go reasonably loud without distorting, they clamp around my head (literally ... I wear the headband behind my neck sometimes and they still stay on). Also,they are robust - I can confirm this after dropping them several times and having them stepped on, and also yanking the cord on countless occassions.
Another thing about sound quality ... I seriously doubt that in the head of a DJ set and at insane volumes you'd really be able to appreciate the sound quality of a given headphone. If it enables to line up two records properly then they're good enough.
True, that's why I mention this.
If you need all the side swivelling, get the HD25.
If having only up swivelling is okay, get the Sony MDR-V6.
If you dont care about swiveling at all, get the Beyerdynamic DT250-80's.
If you will only be plugging them into something that has a good amount of power, and don't care about any swivelling at all, get the Beyerdynamic DT250-250's.
HOWEVER...
All of these headphones are marketed at DJ's. All of them. They all clamp, they all can be used for handless one-eared monitoring (you just put one transducer behind your ear, for example, and they will stay), and they are all built like tanks...they are also all not HUGE headphones, and I believe all of them have one-sided cords..all of them are easy to power...
Just figure out how much folding you *need*, and then buy.. Yes, I care about sound quality, but I also know at least a *little* about DJ needs. Ever wonder why I never recommended my headphones, the Beyerdynamic DT831's, some of the best closed headphoens on the planet? Some of the best *studio monitoring* headphones on the planet (I saw a professor at a Chicago university, a guy who spends time running the sound systems for bands like Dave Matthews, Aerosmith, etc. using the DT831's...he was on the mixing board at a small band because he wanted to keep his feet in the ground, and felt he was losing touch with the reality of audio when he did the stuff for bands with so many resources...) So, why don't I recommend those? They are too big for comfortable, extended one eared monitoring, they are way too big *period*, and they can't be powered by just whatever. So, while they would be perfect for about any other professional audio work on the planet, they wouldn't be great for you all...
Well, regardless, I want to say that headphones are a very personal thing, and different people have different shaped heads, and different DJ's prefer to wear their headphones different ways for different tasks, and, everyone has ears that are shapped differently, and everyone may like a different type of fit...
So, ultimately, it is something that works for you. If that is the Sennheiser HD25', or the Technics RPDJ1200's, or the IXOS MoS DJ1001's, than so be it. I can only offer advice, and knowledge--knowledge that is ultimately not based off of personal experience in the "DJ" realm, I am sad to say. So, therefore, take it or leave it, but always take it with a grain of salt.
that's why your best bet is to go into your local store and try out the headphones yourself, think about the volume levels you'll need them for, and what you're wanting to hear... find those that give you those qualities... or a raging hard-on :P *LOL*
I consider shockwav to be half-right. Most local stores don't carry all of these headphones... they mostly carry just crappy ones. *I* suggest you do a little online research (ie, here or at head-fi), and then try to find places to demo the headphones you heard about online!
Shockwav in practice that sounds great, but unless you're in the US (& possibly the UK) it is extremely rare to find a shop that carries a wide variety of *decent* DJ headphones and that have them on demo.
I've been in contact with Sony officially here in South Africa and they don't bring in any headphones other than the standard lot used to listen to walkman and discman. They *might* bring in the MDR-7000 in the future, like that even helps me!!!!!
Looks like I'll be buying V6's over the internet. I'd love to listen to them first though, but ....
- A.
Thanx a lot! Toa all who've posted... I knew nothing about HeadPhones before...
Well, oDrori, if you wanna find out about headphones in general, just spend some time in www.headwize.com and www.head-fi.org, and, be sure to read that one introductory article on headwize for some generic info! Also, spend some time reading www.headphone.com, cause they're a great company...
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| Originally posted by Gluegun Well, oDrori, if you wanna find out about headphones in general, just spend some time in www.headwize.com and www.head-fi.org, and, be sure to read that one introductory article on headwize for some generic info! Also, spend some time reading www.headphone.com, cause they're a great company... |
Ok, i'm waiting for a lot of comments, but I have a sony MDR-V700dj headphone, and i like it. It isolates very good, and on my mixer it sounds superb. (dateq LPM 7.3, 2x0.5W headphone amp @ 4-32 ohm). The bass also sounds very accurate, and you won't have the sony on your head with full volume. But let me make my idea clear: for dj-ing you need a good isolated headphone, with some power, and I used several headphones, and i can work with all those things. I just liked the sony better, because it fit's better on my head.
Greetz Maarten
I personally can not stand the sony MDR-V700 ... it just folds too awkwardly and doesn't sit on my ears properly ... not to mention it being WAY too heavy. Other people seem to love them though - just shows how subjective the choice of a DJ headphone is.
V700DJ bass...Accurate??
*falls over laughing*
Anyways, most people like the V700DJ until they try the MDR-V6 or (if they absolutely NEED the side folding) the more expensive and worse valued Sennheiser HD25...
Hell, read this earlier thread...
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=26239
Anyways, just *try* the V6....
http://all.search.shopping.yahoo.co...=&rkeys=&clink=
Heck, look at this intelligent person's (from this forum) view of some headphones...
http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/user-bin/T.J...ge=DJ+Equipment
/me takes everyones advice & decides to buy a pair of V6s.
/me discovers:
1) Sony doesn't bring that model into this country (South Africa) :conf"
2) All the stores so far, don't ship overseas. 
I NEED A STORE THAT WILL SHIP V6s TO INTERNATIONAL ADDRESSES !!!!!
- A.
So, none of the stores at shopping.yahoo.com ship overseas? You emailed all of them?
Why don't you ask at www.headwize.com and www.head-fi.org??
Other than that....I don't know.
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