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Posted by ShadoWolf on Oct-06-2005 05:07:

Iran 'behind attacks on British'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/4312516.stm

Iran 'behind attacks on British'

Britain has accused Iran of responsibility for explosions which have caused the deaths of all eight UK soldiers killed in Iraq this year.

A senior British official, briefing correspondents in London, blamed Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

He said they had provided technology to a Shia group in southern Iraq, although the Iranians had denied this, he added.

An Iranian spokesman denied the charge, insisted that Tehran was committed to ensuring a peaceful Iraq.

"From the very beginning, we have stated our position very clearly - a stable Iraq is in our interests and that is what the Iraqi authorities have said themselves on many occasions," Hamid Reza-Asefi told the BBC.

"Even in recent days, the Iraqi authorities have welcomed our position and our approach to Iraq."

Allegations

While UK officials have hinted at an Iranian link before, this is the first specific allegation to be made.

They may feel there is little to lose right now by making such accusations, given that diplomatic relations are already low following the breakdown of talks over Iran's nuclear programme, says the BBC News Website's world affairs correspondent, Paul Reynolds.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the technology had come from Hezbollah in Lebanon via Iran and produced an "explosively shaped projectile".

He said that dissidents from the Mehdi army, a militia controlled by the radical Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr, were suspected of carrying out the attacks.

One of their leaders, Ahmed al-Fartusi, was arrested by British forces recently and was "currently enjoying British hospitality", as the official put it.

It was that arrest which sparked off an anti-British protest in Basra recently.

Saddam trial postponed?

The official said that protests had been made to Iran and that the Iranian government had denied responsibility.

Asked about an Iranian motive, the official said that it could be that Iran felt that it had to show that it could not be "pushed around".

The official also said that the trial of Saddam Hussein, due to start on 19 October, might be postponed until after the elections in December.

Logistical arrangements for the trial, including a witness protection programme and even whether bullet proof glass was to be used around the dock, had still not been decided, he said.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Oct-06-2005 06:51:

blah blah blah Iran this Iran that.Go pick on another country.oh I know how about US of A,they are the ones waging wars not Iran.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-06-2005 08:32:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
blah blah blah Iran this Iran that.Go pick on another country.oh I know how about US of A,they are the ones waging wars not Iran.


Don't fuck with the Fourth Reich!!!


Shit, did I actually say that? What horror!




Posted by kush paintings on Oct-06-2005 13:30:

You two really need to go blow each other.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-06-2005 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
You two really need to go blow each other.


I can't believe you said that. You're generally pretty civil/cultured/polite.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-06-2005 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I can't believe you said that. You're generally pretty civil/cultured/polite.


He generally puts up a nice facade.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Oct-06-2005 19:39:

You guys are all idiots


Posted by josh4 on Oct-06-2005 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
You guys are all idiots

am i an idiot?


Posted by St_Andrew on Oct-06-2005 21:23:

hmmm, according to them it actually came from Hezbollah? Iran might not have been aware of it? If that is even true. Anyway, I don't trust any intelligence nowadays so I would not say wheather this is true or not...

But yeah, let's attack Iran and Syria too, just what the world would need now


Posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l on Oct-06-2005 21:57:

saw that on euronews this morning yeah that's crazy ....hope they won't do a war against iran now


Posted by kush paintings on Oct-06-2005 23:19:

When someone says don't fuck with the Fourth Reich, civility and reason go out the window.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
When someone says don't fuck with the Fourth Reich, civility and reason go out the window.


In other words, you're unable to maintain your composure when someone makes a distressingly blithe analogy, despite the fact that it was meant to be bitterly sarcastic in the first place.

As a former Nazi once said, "We never lost the war, we just changed venues."

On a side note, I'm shocked that I didn't know until just now that Allen Dulles was buried only about 20 miles from my house. I might have to make a trip down there one day so I can piss on his grave.

I strongly believe that he played a part of the Nazi war movement, with his chicanery in managing shares of the Silesian-American Corporation


Posted by Reverend_Trance on Oct-07-2005 03:20:

Iran is the number-one state-sponsor of terrorism in the world

quote:
Iran

Since the inauguration of moderate President Mohammad Khatami in 1997, Iran has taken steps towards liberalization and made conciliatory gestures towards the United States�including public condemnations of terrorist attacks by Algerian and Egyptian groups. It remains, however, one of the most active state sponsors of international terrorism. It continues to support terrorist groups. In the trial of an Iranian and four Lebanese for the 1992 killing of Iranian Kurdish dissidents in a Berlin restaurant, a German court in 1997 found the Government of Iran to have implemented a policy of assassinating dissidents abroad. Iran conducted at least 13 such assassinations in 1997.
Affiliated Groups: Lebanese Hezbollah, Hamas, PIJ, PKK
Sanctions: The Iran & Libya Sanctions Act of 1996 deprives foreign companies of certain economic benefits for investing in Iran's energy sectors.


http://www.infoplease.com/spot/terrorism4.html


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
Iran is the number-one state-sponsor of terrorism in the world



http://www.infoplease.com/spot/terrorism4.html


I thought that WE were the #1 state-sponsor of terrorism.

Ahhhh nevermind, for a moment I forgot that we're calling that the "War on Terror."

Hopefully this one doesn't end up turning out as badly as our "Drug War!"


http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030818/abramsky


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 05:47:

I say, to destroy the terrorist networks you have to follow the money! You may be a bit disturbed, however, when you learn of it's dirty little trail.




http://www.bermudasun.bm/archives/2...-23/02Opinion03

http://www.atimes.com/c-asia/CI28Ag02.html

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...MNGSB9UALS1.DTL


Posted by kush paintings on Oct-07-2005 12:10:

Trancer-S, if I ever got caught trying to source as slanted of an article as the Bermuda Sun one, let alone that its from Bermuda Sun, I would probably be laughed out of school. Can we just start sourcing blogs now or what?


Posted by metalgearsolid on Oct-07-2005 15:06:

Kush if you bothered to look at the other more "realible" sources you would see that they are all saying the same thing. Surely you must now believe that what he uses as sources is good.


Posted by kush paintings on Oct-07-2005 15:29:

Ok... so he is talking about following the trail of drug money that is funding the terrorists activities, however he is implying that this money trail leads to places we couldn't imagine. Ok. Very typical of trancer as he is probably one of the biggest conspiracy theorists on this board next to harcoretrancer of course, who must surely be helping out Afghanastans opium trade. According to the San Fransisco Chronicle article, Afghanastan has become the biggest exporter of drugs... but nowhere is there even a hint at conspiracy theory. And if trancer-x's post was to merely point out the obvious, which was reported well over a year ago, then its simply a waste of space.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Oct-07-2005 15:45:

Oh know TX might be right. All that drug money is going to DC or somewhere close to thier. Imagine what the government can do with the 300billion dollar business of trafficking and selling. Its big business and I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Gov is really in control of the trafficking.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
And if trancer-x's post was to merely point out the obvious, which was reported well over a year ago, then its simply a waste of space.


As are most of your uninformative and naively insubstantial posts on this board - but we're all still allowed to post, right?


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Oh know TX might be right. All that drug money is going to DC or somewhere close to thier. Imagine what the government can do with the 300billion dollar business of trafficking and selling. Its big business and I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Gov is really in control of the trafficking.


Well, for starters, the CIA has had a long history of drug running - so why wouldn't one endeavor to go as far and say that there are definitely pockets of corrupt individuals within our government who are making money off both sides of the drug war and are thence fully complicit in the drug trade.

And look at this logically, do you actually think that corrupt politicians are going to put this money back into our government or our country? Of course not, you doof! That money is being siphoned off into a tangled web of offshore bank accounts, business ventures and other such instruments of laundering which are too numerous to list here.

I guess you've never heard of Mike Ruppert before?



http://www.dailylobo.com/media/pape...ar-558315.shtml

http://www.whale.to/b/ruppert1.html


Posted by metalgearsolid on Oct-07-2005 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Well, for starters, the CIA has had a long history of drug running - so why wouldn't one endeavor to go as far and say that there are definitely pockets of corrupt individuals within our government who are making money off both sides of the drug war and are thence fully complicit in the drug trade.

And look at this logically, do you actually think that corrupt politicians are going to put this money back into our government or our country? Of course not, you doof! That money is being siphoned off into a tangled web of offshore bank accounts, business ventures and other such instruments of laundering which are too numerous to list here.

I guess you've never heard of Mike Ruppert before?




Not until you posted the sources, you stud! You know the CIA wanted my dad to work in SA during the 70's they didn't say why but he said they were strange fellows. They asked him at O'hare airport when he was about to go to Columbia. O O I feel a conspiracy is coming...so this drug money is going to back to the US politicians? Well not all of it because every government has, its share of corrupt politicians. to take its share. But do you think the Gov can compete with the all the mafias and gangs I mean what you are saying is that some OC work with the gov or are being controled by the gov? btw I have read some info so you won't need to provide any sources about the US gov working with drug cartels..not unless you want to.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
Trancer-S, if I ever got caught trying to source as slanted of an article as the Bermuda Sun one, let alone that its from Bermuda Sun, I would probably be laughed out of school. Can we just start sourcing blogs now or what?


Maybe you should start attacking the information itself rather than the vessel that it was carried in. That would make for a much more substantial argument, don't you think? Oh wait, you don't really seem to have an argument. Nevermind.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
Can we just start sourcing blogs now or what?


Come to think of it, I did that on Wednesday.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...504#post5081504


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-07-2005 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
Trancer-S, if I ever got caught trying to source as slanted of an article as the Bermuda Sun one, let alone that its from Bermuda Sun, I would probably be laughed out of school.


Anyway, this is MY school, biotch. I can source op-eds if I want because I'm the teacher in this classroom.

Now go sit in the corner and put on your favorite hat, just as you always do.




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