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Posted by Scolomon on Oct-06-2005 16:54:

the perfect tracklist

So I am just starting to get my feet wet mixing and i am trying to build a perfect setlist for like a 80 min mix

Is it inappropriate to use a song by the same producer twice? Or two remixes by the same guy?
I find i like a lot of stuff that lets say sebastian ingrosso or axwell remix but would it be wrong to put like 2 axwell remixes on one mix?
if so why?
thanks

Posted by Zack Roth on Oct-06-2005 17:00:

Re: the perfect tracklist

quote:
Originally posted by Scolomon
So I am just starting to get my feet wet mixing and i am trying to build a perfect setlist for like a 80 min mix

Is it inappropriate to use a song by the same producer twice? Or two remixes by the same guy?
I find i like a lot of stuff that lets say sebastian ingrosso or axwell remix but would it be wrong to put like 2 axwell remixes on one mix?
if so why?
thanks

Is it wrong to put two songs or remixes by the same producer? Hell no. Do whatever sounds right to you.

Posted by Scolomon on Oct-06-2005 17:02:

redundancy

Yeah, I just find a lot of the big DJs don't do it, and I try not to sound redundant, so I was curious

Posted by Allied Nations on Oct-06-2005 17:15:

Actually youd be suprised, i see a lot of back to back same artists on some big name TLs.. in fact sometimes 2 different mixes of the same song back to back.

playing an entired 2 hours of pvd or steve angello or whoever your fav. producer is another story.

otherwise go nuts.

Posted by PutBoy on Oct-06-2005 17:32:

Naw. But it's inadviceable to put them beside eachother in a set I guess. But for promotional purposes, I would show the people as much variety as possible really. You might wanna show you got plenty of vinyls...

Other than that I agree with dinoXpress;

go nuts

Posted by FirstBorn on Oct-06-2005 19:11:

Re: Re: the perfect tracklist

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Do whatever sounds right to you.

The best advice there is for anyone agonising over a track list. Just play the music you love, in the order you think it should be played in, and the rest will take care of itself. If it's a good tune, play it.

Posted by Tony Morello on Oct-06-2005 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
Naw. But it's inadviceable to put them beside eachother in a set I guess. But for promotional purposes, I would show the people as much variety as possible really. You might wanna show you got plenty of vinyls...

Other than that I agree with dinoXpress;

go nuts

as a promoter i don't give a shit if you have as much variety as possible, variety is good mind you and if you started your mix off with deep house and was able to work it up to some really energetic trance or hard dance i'd be impressed, but it's not something i look for cause if you can do that, you'd have been playing out for a while already

i'm mainly looking at track flow and how good the transitions are

also, how is the "energy" throughout the set and will it fit with where i would like to place the dj

if the energy isn't where i'd like it to be but the mix itself was a good one, i'd call the dj up and see if he/she were able to go a little harder or a little softer to fill the slot properly

do what sounds good and right, tell me a story, don't just play a bunch of records together, think about how the songs will go together to create a mood

also, for a demo cd, be sure to label it with your name, alias, and contact info (email, phone or both)

so many times i'll get a cd with just an alias and what the cd is named and i'll have no way to get in contact with the dj

Posted by jpisani on Oct-06-2005 21:39:

sander kleinenberg ended disc 2 of 'this is everybody too' with
12) redanka - waves (e-mission mix)
13) redanka - waves (bay of islands mix)

so i guess you can just go ahead and do what you want.

a lot of times i will play 'kenneth thomas & elevation - preen' and 'kenneth thomas & elevation - varekai' near eachother, if not, mixed into eachother in the same set, with 'elevation - somewhere (clear blue)' as an opening track. if it flows good, feels good, and sounds good, no one should really care who produced your tracks.

Posted by PutBoy on Oct-06-2005 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by jpisani
sander kleinenberg ended disc 2 of 'this is everybody too' with
12) redanka - waves (e-mission mix)
13) redanka - waves (bay of islands mix)

THAT, ladies and gents, pretty much proves the point ;D

Posted by basd on Oct-07-2005 07:48:

James Holden's Balance 005 got two mixes of Outhouse right after eachother on CD 1 iirc as well. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, that is, if you're able to pull it off well.

Posted by Omega_Blue on Oct-07-2005 08:01:

as does sasha in fundacion with "come to me"

a lot of times i think throwing out two mixes of the same track back to back sounds great, especially if they're mixed together really creatively

Posted by jupiterone on Oct-08-2005 22:00:

Ferry Corsten - Live at Vienna Heineken Greenroom 14-08-2005

01. System F - Insolation (2005 Remake)
02. ID
03. Signalrunners - 3000 Miles Away (Probspot Club Mix)
04. David West feat. Andreas Hermansson - Larry Mountain 54
05. ID
06. ID
07. Steve May - Blend Forty-3 (Luke Chable & Steve May Remix)
08. Above & Beyond feat. Andy Moor - Air For Life
09. Ferry Corsten - Like I'm On Fire
10. Ferry Corsten - Sweet Sorrow
11. ID
12. Purple Haze - Adrenaline
13. The Police - S.O.S. (Sander Van Doorn Bootleg)

Part 2:

01. ID
02. ID
03. ID
04. Mark Marberg - Guarana
05. Ferry Corsten - Right The Way
06. Fischerspooner - Never Win (Ferry Corsten Re-Cut of Benni Benassi Mix)
07. Ferry Corsten - Rock Your Body Rock (Extended Mix)
08. Ferry Corsten - It's Time (Ferry Corsten's Flashover Mix)
09. Ferry Corsten feat. Shelly Harland - Holding On (Ferry Corsten Flashover Mix)
10. The Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia 2004 (Ferry Corsten Remix)
11. Ferry Corsten - I Love You
12. System F - Out Of The Blue

That should answer your question.

Posted by coded audio on Oct-08-2005 22:33:

Posted by sEpH on Oct-08-2005 22:42:

Sasha played:

Britney Spears - Breathe On Me (Holden dub)
followed by
Britney Spears - Breathe On Me (Holden vocal mix)

in a set live@aria and it was awesome:P

Posted by Vlad on Oct-08-2005 23:30:

01. Lick The Frog - Lick The Frog Pheremones
02. Martijn Ten Velden & Lucien Foort - Bleeep! (Original Mix)
03. D-Nox - Seven Hours (Original Mix)
04. David Tort - Electro (Red Box Electro Mix)
05. Buy Now - For Sale
06. David Tort & Toni Bali - Dirty Fingers (Washing My Car) (Dirty Mix)
07. Jon Gurd - Future (Original Mix)
08. Dirty Donna Loves Bass - Ring The Alarm (Dirty Donna Loves Mr. T Mix)
09. Steve Angello & Sebastion Ingrosso - Yeah
10. Bryan Cox vs. Rob Base - Walking Saw (It Takes Two)
11. Marco V - Automanual
12. David Tort & Toni Bali - 64k (Acid Mix)
13. Red & Blue - Driller (Original Mix)
14. Cirez D - Knockout
15. Yoshimoto - Du What U Du (Trentemoller Remix)
16. Killahurtz vs. Donna Summer - I Feel Love

My most recent mix... used 3 David Tort tracks, although not back to back...

01. Axwell & Sebastian Ingrosso - Together [Axtone]
02. Soulcentral - Strings Of Life (Mark Knight & MTV Remix) [Defected]
03. Deux - Sun Rising Up (Main Vocal Mix) [Urbana]
04. Who Da Funk feat. Jessica Eve - Shiny Disco Balls (Double Funk Mix) [Subusa]
05. Dr. Kucho & Gregor Salto - Can't Stop Playing (Amsterdam Funk Mix) [Motivo]
06. 5th Avenue - I Can Feel It [White]
07. Carolina Marquez - The Killers Song (The Discoboys Remix) [541]
08. DJ Pippi & David Penn - Solea (Original Mix) [Urbana]
09. Coco & Villa feat. Pepe Rubio - La Noche (Original Mix) [T.U.S.O.M]
10. Simon & Shaker - Freshness (Simon & Shaker Special Club Mix) [T.U.S.O.M]
11. 5th Avenue - On The Floor [White]
12. Morillo, Romero & Nunez feat. Jessica Eve - Dancin' (Fuzzy Hair Mix) [Subliminal]
13. Deep Dish - Say Hello (Steve Angello & Sebastian Ingrosso Remix) [Positiva]
14. Disco Construction - Can't Get Enough (Steve Angello Re-mode Mix) [Size]
15. Steve Angello & Sebastian Ingrosso - Yeah [La Mode]
16. 9th Avenue - Right Now [9th Ave]

A previous mix to that... used 3 Ingrosso & Angello tracks... mix 3 Angello tracks back2back2back.

It really doesnt matter what you do, just do what you feel, do what you think would sound good. The track selection is at the DJ's discretion and you shouldnt look to other people for advice about what to spin, or defend your track selection to people.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-09-2005 14:47:

Don't fret about this.
If the tracks work put them together or keep them appart if they don't.

If it sounds good do it. Most clubbers wouldn't mind anyways as long as they are good tracks. And another group probably wouldn't know...

Cheers
Nem

Posted by CleverName on Oct-09-2005 21:30:

Paul van Dyk "Paul Plays Paul The Casino (04-06-2001)"

Part 2
-
12. BT - Flaming June (Paul van Dyk Remix)
13. Alanis Morissette - The Couch (Paul van Dyk Remix)
14. Paul van Dyk - Face To Face
15. Paul van Dyk - Moonlightning (Nightclub Mix)
16. Paul van Dyk - Santos
17. Paul van Dyk - All I Need
18. Digivalley - Deeper Love (Paul van Dyk Remix)
19. Paul van Dyk - Living For The Night (PvD 2001 Mix)
20. Paul van Dyk - We Are Alive (Deep Breath Mix)
21. Paul van Dyk - Magical Moment
22. Members Of Mayday - 10 In 01 (Paul van Dyk's Members Only Mix)
23. Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (Ashtrax Fallen Mix)
24. Dina Carroll - Run To You (Paul van Dyk Remix)
25. Paul van Dyk - Forbidden Fruit (PvD & BT Fruit Of Love Mix)
26. Paul van Dyk - Beautiful Place (Salt Tank Remix)
27. Paul van Dyk - Words

'nuff said

Posted by Scolomon on Oct-09-2005 21:45:

but but but

In all fairness these are djs playing their own songs which is different than me playing 8 paul van dyk songs in a row,
i think these situations can be easily distinguished from each other