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Posted by Palladium on Oct-07-2005 02:08:

what's up with the psy whores ??

i have some friends from mexico who are psy whores...

they listen to psy-trance...but actually they call it "Psycho"...so i'm like...dude its name is psy-trance or psychedelic trance not psycho u n00b...

but anyways...they're always without the feet on the ground...and i'm not reffering to "they're high"...no

they told me that when they listen to "Psycho" they're on a spiritual voyage and "freeing" their mind...so im like...WTF ??

also they have some posters of some India gods...the one with 8 arms or something like that...

Dude...Is just Music, maybe it makes you chill...but spiritual voyage...WTF ??11!!

DISCUSS

Posted by Axolotyl on Oct-07-2005 02:26:

Silence heathen, back to your anthems and tech house. Dont mess with powers you don't understand If I have to explain it, its already too late...

Posted by Zenchowdah on Oct-07-2005 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
Silence heathen, back to your anthems and tech house. Dont mess with powers you don't understand If I have to explain it, its already too late...

if you have to ask, you cant afford it.

Posted by djpaulc on Oct-07-2005 12:06:

Re: what's up with the psy whores ??

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
they listen to psy-trance...but actually they call it "Psycho"...so i'm like...dude its name is psy-trance or psychedelic trance not psycho u n00b...

you are either Michaelangello out of The Turtles or Ted out of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure.

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
DISCUSS

no

Posted by Palladium on Oct-07-2005 19:30:

what the hell u mean ?

Posted by Spirit5 on Oct-07-2005 19:36:

I've listened to some Psy Trance and I don't see the spirituality behind it. Maybe for putting you into a trance state or religious imagery like from Hindu or Native peoples, but when I think spiritual-sounding, I think uplifting, melodic trance stuff with beautiful breakdowns with synths, pianos, guitars etc or the deeper, more chilled, Balaeric sound like Chicane or Tastexperience. But rock in the late 60s had spirituality connected to it (Hippies), so I don't see anything wrong with it. If it makes them closer to God, then fine, thats the way they see it. But I don't know how anyone can deny that trance music has spirituality behind it.

Posted by Tranced17 on Oct-07-2005 19:41:

Re: what's up with the psy whores ??

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
i have some friends from mexico who are psy whores...

they listen to psy-trance...but actually they call it "Psycho"...so i'm like...dude its name is psy-trance or psychedelic trance not psycho u n00b...

but anyways...they're always without the feet on the ground...and i'm not reffering to "they're high"...no

they told me that when they listen to "Psycho" they're on a spiritual voyage and "freeing" their mind...so im like...WTF ??

also they have some posters of some India gods...the one with 8 arms or something like that...

Dude...Is just Music, maybe it makes you chill...but spiritual voyage...WTF ??11!!

DISCUSS

The psychedelic trance scene has essentially evolved from the psychedelic drug scene. A lot of people who take large amounts of psychedelics will talk about spritual or enlightening journies.

I suppose they could be very much into psychedelic drug culture, or more likely they could just be a couple of thirteen year olds who think hearing a couple of drug samples in a track has somehow expanded their minds.

Probably the latter.

Posted by Thois on Oct-07-2005 20:42:

crazy mexicans

Posted by cluBBer on Oct-07-2005 21:31:

If they say things like these so I think they use DRUGS!

Posted by 303 on Oct-08-2005 16:53:

I bet theyve had way to much San Pedro beverages

Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-08-2005 17:37:

Posted by RickyM on Oct-08-2005 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
I've listened to some Psy Trance and I don't see the spirituality behind it. Maybe for putting you into a trance state or religious imagery like from Hindu or Native peoples, but when I think spiritual-sounding, I think uplifting, melodic trance stuff with beautiful breakdowns with synths, pianos, guitars etc or the deeper, more chilled, Balaeric sound like Chicane or Tastexperience. But rock in the late 60s had spirituality connected to it (Hippies), so I don't see anything wrong with it. If it makes them closer to God, then fine, thats the way they see it. But I don't know how anyone can deny that trance music has spirituality behind it.

I don't think that uplifting trance is spiritual at all...surely its designed for clubs to get people moving...not really spiritual - unless you mean spiritual as in the amount of vodka etc consumed at these events

Posted by basilisk on Oct-08-2005 22:39:

Until you've danced your weekend away at a world-class psytrance party (sober, even) you don't have much to say on this issue. Is an experience like this universal? Of course not... but part of the reason that psytrance is so huge globally is that people can come to these events and have what you might call a spiritual trip, through primal dance. Look up some stuff on technoshamanism and the roots of trance culture... oh and I don't mean this club-friendly stuff you guys listen to - I mean trance you're not going to get a clue listening to a handful of tracks in your bedroom and analyzing it. Chances are you just aren't going to get it anyway! That's fine... I'm just telling you the trance experience isn't something you can really comment on until you go out to a big party and really lose yourself in it - then it might all make sense!

Posted by twisted on Oct-09-2005 09:26:

quote:
Originally posted by basilisk
Until you've danced your weekend away at a world-class psytrance party (sober, even) you don't have much to say on this issue. Is an experience like this universal? Of course not... but part of the reason that psytrance is so huge globally is that people can come to these events and have what you might call a spiritual trip, through primal dance. Look up some stuff on technoshamanism and the roots of trance culture... oh and I don't mean this club-friendly stuff you guys listen to - I mean trance you're not going to get a clue listening to a handful of tracks in your bedroom and analyzing it. Chances are you just aren't going to get it anyway! That's fine... I'm just telling you the trance experience isn't something you can really comment on until you go out to a big party and really lose yourself in it - then it might all make sense!

Well FUCKING said!

Psytrance is a different scene, with different people, with a completely different backround; one that you have to experience *with an open mind* before you can go and make ill-informed assumtions. It is just music, but it also represents a specific culture, not disimilar to the "hippie" culture of the 60's and early 70's. There is definatly a strong undercurrent of global spirituality and awareness that really shows up in the music, the festivals and the gatherings. Among other things.

Posted by Laughingfennec on Oct-09-2005 10:18:

The goa music was more spiritual. The current psytrance, sorry but on the whole it is not spiritual music. The old goa sound by Astral projection, Hallucinogen, Chi-A.D., Cosmosis, Man with no name, Etnica, Miranda, and i forget a lot...those artists used to make "spiritual goa trance", but the new trend, full on psytrance got nothing spiritual IMO. Goa music was born in India (hence it's name Goa) that's why at the origin it was connected with indian divinities, Buddha, etc...listen to some old school goa trance, or the recent compilation called APSARA (Suntrip records), lots of oriental melodies. And just look the old covers of some albums and compilations
examples:

Posted by RebeL9 on Oct-09-2005 16:19:

Posted by Axolotyl on Oct-10-2005 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Laughingfennec
The goa music was more spiritual. The current psytrance, sorry but on the whole it is not spiritual music. The old goa sound by Astral projection, Hallucinogen, Chi-A.D., Cosmosis, Man with no name, Etnica, Miranda, and i forget a lot...those artists used to make "spiritual goa trance", but the new trend, full on psytrance got nothing spiritual IMO. Goa music was born in India (hence it's name Goa) that's why at the origin it was connected with indian divinities, Buddha, etc...listen to some old school goa trance, or the recent compilation called APSARA (Suntrip records), lots of oriental melodies. And just look the old covers of some albums and compilations
examples:

I think its important to note the difference between spirituality and psychedelia. One can equate a similarity in drug use between say weekend partygoers getting tripped out and say modern day shamen who use drugs as a way of connecting to the spirit world. Its all about the context you put it in and the self belief of the individual as to why he is there.

Trance music can be seen in the same way.

To genuinely go on a trance like journey... (for which the soaring repeditive nature of goa lends itself to) or to get completely mind whacked at the sonic array of fucked up sounds (which modern psy is quite good for)

To me, spirituality is psychedelia with a purpose which is what goa seemed to have but psy definately lacks these days.

I'd really like to know what happened to goa and why they dont make that style anymore. There is the odd album that tries to capture it (like Aspara), but even the labels based in goa seem to be cranking out hard twisted psy these days. It seems like psychedelic journeys have become this scary intense rollercoaster through a lot of twisted dark sounds.

Posted by Magnus on Oct-10-2005 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by basilisk
Until you've danced your weekend away at a world-class psytrance party (sober, even) you don't have much to say on this issue. Is an experience like this universal? Of course not... but part of the reason that psytrance is so huge globally is that people can come to these events and have what you might call a spiritual trip, through primal dance. Look up some stuff on technoshamanism and the roots of trance culture... oh and I don't mean this club-friendly stuff you guys listen to - I mean trance you're not going to get a clue listening to a handful of tracks in your bedroom and analyzing it. Chances are you just aren't going to get it anyway! That's fine... I'm just telling you the trance experience isn't something you can really comment on until you go out to a big party and really lose yourself in it - then it might all make sense!

Very well said indeed. I'm setting my sights on the Gathering 2006 in Japan. Happens once a year in late September.

Posted by Verona^My on Oct-12-2005 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
I'd really like to know what happened to goa and why they dont make that style anymore. There is the odd album that tries to capture it (like Aspara), but even the labels based in goa seem to be cranking out hard twisted psy these days. It seems like psychedelic journeys have become this scary intense rollercoaster through a lot of twisted dark sounds.

Goa evolved.

Simply put, most of the newer artists are based on the principle of putting energy into a track with a deep driving bassline. It's much more intense.

By the way, I heard Astral Projection is coming out with a new album soon.

Posted by TCB on Oct-12-2005 05:40:

we had a psy party here in the ruins of a monestary. was very spiritually enlightening!!! hehe

Posted by DJ Cinos on Oct-12-2005 06:57:

Posted by Axolotyl on Oct-12-2005 07:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Verona^My
Goa evolved.

Simply put, most of the newer artists are based on the principle of putting energy into a track with a deep driving bassline. It's much more intense.

By the way, I heard Astral Projection is coming out with a new album soon.

That doesnt account for the change in sound. Goa was beautiful, uplifting at times and very melodic. Psy these days rarely has these qualities. The driving bassline has always been there from the start, it just got more full on and punchier with psy.