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Posted by DeRangedMind on Oct-11-2005 21:25:

The state of trance w/ PVD

"Trance had become a dirty word. Thanks to Ian Van Dahl, Lasgo, Flip 'N' Fill and DJ Sammy, a generation of kids has grown up thinking trance is the shittiest music since country and western.

Along with Armin Van Buurren, Tiesto, and Ferry Corsten, Paul Van Dyk and tracks like 'Connected' have saved trance, steering it away from the bird-sings-over-80s-remake formula that was making trance a laughing stock, bringing it back to what it was always meant to be - fucking good dancefloor music that messes with your head.

He doesn't want to piss anyone off, so he doesn't like to talk about other DJs. With one exception: Ian Van Dahl gets a kicking for being completely 'cheesy'.

Cheesy records make proper trance look bad. Of course there are people who buy DJ Sammy records. They're not the same people that buy mine."

- Paul Van Dyk

thanks Groundhog Boy


Discuss


Posted by jupiterone on Oct-11-2005 21:26:

LMFAO!




that is all.


Posted by digitul punk on Oct-11-2005 21:27:

Heh..Pretty well said tbh.


Posted by Nik Novo on Oct-11-2005 21:27:

2-3 years ago i would have agreed, now i'd say he should first start to play good music himself again and THEN say something like that.


this quote is rather old nevertheless


Posted by n0bben on Oct-11-2005 21:34:

Thumbs up Re: The state of trance w/ PVD

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Commander
"Trance had become a dirty word. Thanks to Ian Van Dahl, Lasgo, Flip 'N' Fill and DJ Sammy, a generation of kids has grown up thinking trance is the shittiest music since country and western."
- Paul van Dyk




still just as funny as when i read it the first time. this is the statement that makes pvd the biggest fucking hypodrite out there. what a sellout


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-11-2005 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NGE
2-3 years ago i would have agreed, now i'd say he should first start to play good music himself again and THEN say something like that.


this quote is rather old nevertheless



he should include his name in the list, and armin/ferry/tiest0r/etc's names too


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-11-2005 21:38:

Oh, how times change.


Posted by Thois on Oct-11-2005 21:46:

What is the difference between pvd and lasgo?

Well, at least lasgo uses different sounds in his songs, 1-0


Posted by Reactic on Oct-11-2005 21:49:

Re: The state of trance w/ PVD

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Commander
"Trance had become a dirty word. Thanks to Ian Van Dahl, Lasgo, Flip 'N' Fill and DJ Sammy, a generation of kids has grown up thinking trance is the shittiest music since country and western."
- Paul van Dyk



I have my doubts, that this artists who pvd have mantioned are responsible for this problem. He should rather blame the industry, who have commercialized this sound as trance, although it wasn't


Posted by Reactic on Oct-11-2005 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
he should include his name in the list, and armin/ferry/tiest0r/etc's names too


don't exaggerate, maybe their self-productions may become a bit commercial, but they still produce tracks, which aren't suitable for the mainstream, AND realize, how many people they introduce with their fame to the scene, with their sets which are still full of quality trance..


Posted by Shafteh on Oct-11-2005 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Reactic
don't exaggerate, maybe their self-productions may become a bit commercial, but they still produce tracks, which aren't suitable for the mainstream, AND realize, how many people they introduce with their fame to the scene, with their sets which are still full of quality trance..



i agree.


Posted by RebeL9 on Oct-11-2005 22:27:

seriously. listen to PVDs lastest album. Loads of vocals, cheesy patterns and the distance is not that far away from Ian van Dahl.
At least not far enough for a statement like that from mr van Dyk.


Posted by Jordan Stevens on Oct-11-2005 22:55:

so true though........


Posted by isoterra on Oct-11-2005 23:58:

how old is that quote?


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Oct-12-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
how old is that quote?

October 2003 Mixmag

Here's more of the quote
quote:
"Trance had become a dirty word. Thanks to Ian Van Dahl, Lasgo, Flip 'N' Fill and DJ Sammy, a generation of kids has grown up thinking trance is the shittiest music since country and western.

Along with Armin Van Buurren, Tiesto, and Ferry Corsten, Paul Van Dyk and tracks like 'Connected' have saved trance, steering it away from the bird-sings-over-80s-remake formula that was making trance a laughing stock, bringing it back to what it was always meant to be - fucking good dancefloor music that messes with your head.

He doesn't want to piss anyone off, so he doesn't like to talk about other DJs. With one exception: Ian Van Dahl gets a kicking for being completely 'cheesy'.

Cheesy records make proper trance look bad. Of course there are people who buy DJ Sammy records. They're not the same people that buy mine."


Posted by DeRangedMind on Oct-12-2005 00:55:

I was told about this but forgot to ask the person how old it was and I did a search and nothing come up


Posted by flavdave on Oct-12-2005 01:10:

Re: The state of trance w/ PVD

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra Commander
Of course there are people who buy DJ Sammy records. They're not the same people that buy mine."

- Paul Van Dyk


Think again.


Posted by punjabi on Oct-12-2005 01:24:

that quote isn't even real. either that or someone just sucks at copying it out of whatever "source" it came from. i think this is crap, and even if it isn't, i got a good laugh out of the PvD bashing!


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-12-2005 02:31:

quote:
Originally posted by punjabi
that quote isn't even real. either that or someone just sucks at copying it out of whatever "source" it came from. i think this is crap, and even if it isn't, i got a good laugh out of the PvD bashing!

Please tell me you're not being that deliberately dense.


Posted by Cobalt on Oct-12-2005 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
seriously. listen to PVDs lastest album. Loads of vocals, cheesy patterns and the distance is not that far away from Ian van Dahl.
At least not far enough for a statement like that from mr van Dyk.

Yes, exactly.

PvD fans felt betrayed by Reflections. We gave him a lot of credit to run with, but after two years of this nonsense it clearly wasn't a fluke or misstep.

The commercially-bent production work kept on rolling, and Vandit stepped up quantity over quality.


Posted by RebeL9 on Oct-12-2005 04:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Yes, exactly.

PvD fans felt betrayed by Reflections. We gave him a lot of credit to run with, but after two years of this nonsense it clearly wasn't a fluke or misstep.

The commercially-bent production work kept on rolling, and Vandit stepped up quantity over quality.


yeah Reflections was a MASSIVE dissapointment and I think he lost lots of old fans (including me) with that one.
and recently he had a big dissapointment with TPOD2.
The once so great DJ from Germany hailed as the god of trance in every music magazine started to fall.
So far what actually saved the last of his reputation is the fact that he was one of the pioneers and contributed alot in the past. But this doesn't last forever.
Tiesto gets alot of bashing but PVD is not far away at all. Both went the same direction. Money and fame before fans.


Posted by Protege on Oct-12-2005 04:51:

Trance the trance up you trancing trancehole!

Hmm, doesn't sound like a dirty word to me.

And lmao at Tiesto and AvB saving trance. They killed it for me imo, not DJ Sammy etc.


Posted by A.J. on Oct-12-2005 05:13:

haha, memories.....


The original thread with this quote was huge. I just wish that the search function was working properly.


Posted by TCB on Oct-12-2005 05:35:

say what you want about pvd and tiesto but leave armin out of this!!!


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-12-2005 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Reactic
don't exaggerate, maybe their self-productions may become a bit commercial, but they still produce tracks, which aren't suitable for the mainstream, AND realize, how many people they introduce with their fame to the scene, with their sets which are still full of quality trance..



trance is dead and burried my friend.


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