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promotors, if you're going to bring a world-class dj to atlanta on a wednesday night!

Ive been giving this a lot of thought recently. Mainly because I was up until 8am (giggity giggity ) last Wednesday night/Thursday morning wholly because of the presence of a certain Armin Van Buuren.

Why do the promotors in this town treat Wednesday night like its any other Saturday? Its freakin Wednesday!!! You can't treat a Wednesday like a Saturday because circumstances are different. I bet 90% of the people in that club with wristbands on all had to go to work in the morning. I wonder how many people who were 21 (aka, those who would buy alcohol at the club making it a shit-ton of money) stayed home that wednesday simply because they couldn't afford to/would get fired if they went out until 3 in the morning in the middle of the workweek. Worse yet, I wonder how many people didn't drink very much because it was Wednesday and they had work in the morning?

My question to you promotors out there, why are Wednesdays not treated accordingly? I'm just curious as to whether the club would stand to make more money if the doors opened earlier and closed earlier. People who don't have anything to do will come anyways, and people who can't stay up all night will also be able to come. The way i see it, if you can maximize your time window to allow the maximum number of people who are over 21 to come to the club on wednesday, you stand to make A LOT MORE MONEY. And make people who do have jobs (moi), a lot happier in the process. Besides, there isn't a law mandating that clubs stay open until 3am.

I see earlier Wednesday night events as a win-win-win for club, promotor, and party-goer.

Thoughts? Rebuttals?

good point

but the fact is, a club won't fill-up until 12am or 3 to 4 hrs b4 they close......thats pretty much anyday, anywhere in US (no matter u have a job or not, 21+ or not)

I raised this point in the PVD thread for November.... I think that if the promoters advertise, from the beginning, that the headliner will go on @ precisely 9:30 or 10 and the club will CLOSE @ 12, then people will come out... I mean, the majority of people are not going out because they want to stay out until 3:30, they're going out because they want to see PVD, AVB or whoever is headlining... So, the whole point here is to NOT give people the option.. simply say, the club will close @ precisely 12:00....

I suspect that the reason for these weekday sets is because the headliners are cheaper than on weekend days, but it kinda sucks, because for PVD, or AVB, or Sasha, the club is going to sell a capacity crowd, regardless of day... Plus, the 18+ crowd gets to bank in...

My solution to this problem is to start bringing in serious headliners to a venue, OTHER than a club... The Abbey is being used quite heavily these days to throw Circuit parties... Also, there's the old Nike Pavillion and not to mention, the NATC. I would love to see pvd or sasha or someone, spinning EPIC parties @ these venues, where all ages, from 18+ can attend... that way, you have more space... PLUS, the promoter can sell more tickets and still turn a nice profit...Again, I suspect this is how things would turn out, or I might just be talking out of my ass...lol

I dunno.. these are just my ideas... I wanted to see AVB so bad, but I had an early morning committment... plus, I"m most likely going to have to miss PVD this next time around

i wiould like for pvd to play a 25 minute set. seriously who still likes pvd besides mikey mike?


and ...................... scott

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Originally posted by nchs09 i wiould like for pvd to play a 25 minute set. seriously who still likes pvd besides mikey mike? and ...................... scott

guilty as charged. pvd has slipped in my personal rankings but he's still the trance god and i will be at his wednesday show. when you get up at 3am to walk the dog, think of me as i stumble back home.

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Originally posted by zenperson My solution to this problem is to start bringing in serious headliners to a venue, OTHER than a club... The Abbey is being used quite heavily these days to throw Circuit parties... Also, there's the old Nike Pavillion and not to mention, the NATC.

for shows at the abbey they will not start till 11:30 pm because they run a restraunt ahead of time and then they have to close at 3:00 am. Nike pavillion wil not allow any more parties. They did one more for us but noise complaints from the new condos across the street. The whole NATC thing is another can of worms. The costs in hosting an event there and the amount of people actually going out these days is a lose lose situation.

That all being said we have decided to start doing some 18 and up friday night shows at a new venue with multiple headliners and we are working on another Liquified Universe for april 2006.

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Originally posted by Scottaculous when you get up at 3am to walk the dog, think of me as i stumble back home.

i dont like reverse piz0wneg...

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Originally posted by Liquified Liquified Universe for april 2006.

I still dig PvD....even though I don't listen to trance much these days...I'll be the party as well..see you guys there.

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Originally posted by TranceLuver4evr good point but the fact is, a club won't fill-up until 12am or 3 to 4 hrs b4 they close......thats pretty much anyday, anywhere in US (no matter u have a job or not, 21+ or not)

Yes exactly. So on a Wednesday night one of your favorite DJs comes to town, I say, suck it up. And if you tried to make it so the headliner come on at 9:30 or 10:00, I would be one of those pushing for him to stay on unitl 3am anyways.

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Originally posted by Sydag5 Yes exactly. So on a Wednesday night one of your favorite DJs comes to town, I say, suck it up. And if you tried to make it so the headliner come on at 9:30 or 10:00, I would be one of those pushing for him to stay on unitl 3am anyways.

EXACTLY.... Be a good adult and take the next day off... Or suck it up! I had to work last Monday when everyone else had off but I was still drinking it up like a rock star at 5:00am. Same with Armin this past Wednesday (although I was smart and took Thursday off!). I know it sucks getting older and having to work for a living, but that is the price you pay. Make a decision, is the person coming really that important to you and if so, SUCK IT UP!!!

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Originally posted by Xyzpdq0121 SUCK IT UP!!!

Sucking it up is always an option especially since these shows don't happen terribly frequently.

Would it be possible to arrange more pre-show events like at Satellite Records? That way, those who can't make it can still come support their favorite dj. I think this would work, especially if it were a cd signing + short set event. Besides, everyone loved it when Zabiela spun there for a crowd of maybe 20 people.

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Originally posted by nchs09 i wiould like for pvd to play a 25 minute set. seriously who still likes pvd besides mikey mike?

me

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Originally posted by zenperson My solution to this problem is to start bringing in serious headliners to a venue, OTHER than a club...

What about the Tabernacle??? The place is, in my opinion, the best music venue in the country. I'm fairly sure it can hold more people than eleven50 too.

PvD + Tabernacle = heaven

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Originally posted by phonk64 What about the Tabernacle??? The place is, in my opinion, the best music venue in the country. I'm fairly sure it can hold more people than eleven50 too. PvD + Tabernacle = heaven

we actually tried to get PVD this time around on a friday and were going to do the tabby but no fridays were available.

We have been looking into some other shows there on a weekend but the tabby is pretty booked up through the end of the year.

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Originally posted by Liquified we actually tried to get PVD this time around on a friday and were going to do the tabby but no fridays were available. We have been looking into some other shows there on a weekend but the tabby is pretty booked up through the end of the year.

Its good to hear that at least the effort was made. I would love to see a big show at the tabernacle

Drunk people + the slope of the stairs at the Tabby = Lawsuit

No place to dance + PVD = Shit ass time

Cost of booking the Tabby + Cost of paying PVD = Cover that is too expensive

Unknow back room of Compound + Big Name DJs = Better Idea

The same post about this that was made the last time a big DJ came on Wednesday + No change to the policy in the future = Waste of space on the forum

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Originally posted by Xyzpdq0121 Cost of booking the Tabby + Cost of paying PVD = Cover that is too expensive

Good point. Devin, what would happen to the cover? Would we start paying ticketmaster prices ($50+garbage fees) to see shows???

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Originally posted by Xyzpdq0121 The same post about this that was made the last time a big DJ came on Wednesday + No change to the policy in the future = Waste of space on the forum

If we don't give feedback, nothing will ever change. If we don't keep asking the promoters what their ideas are and give them ours, nothing will ever change.

Some of the best shows in my life were at Mirages events at the Tabby! Its a great venue and I miss the hell out of those sunrise sessions walking out at 7am, thinking about how awesome the night was there...

Oh the old days...

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Originally posted by Jonathan Allyn Some of the best shows in my life were at Mirages events at the Tabby! Its a great venue and I miss the hell out of those sunrise sessions walking out at 7am, thinking about how awesome the night was there... Oh the old days...

yep, those were sure the good old days. i miss the mirage and outerlimits parties.

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Originally posted by phonk64 Good point. Devin, what would happen to the cover? Would we start paying ticketmaster prices ($50+garbage fees) to see shows???

thats the thing about the tabby, they are under contract for tickets to be done through ticketmaster. But you can also go down to the box office and purchase tickets at the tabby and not pay the ticketmaster fee's.

But if we could do the tabby with for instance, PVD and Another headliner (live act maybe)in the main room, then use the cotton club with 3 DnB headliners as well as locals and then use the upstairs for more of a regional room, have say 4-5 headliners total in the building and then have another 10 locals and regionals you could have a massive on your hands in Atlanta again. For a show like that it would probably be priced at $30 and $35 and it be a saturday night.

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Originally posted by Liquified But if we could do the tabby with for instance, PVD and Another headliner (live act maybe)in the main room, then use the cotton club with 3 DnB headliners as well as locals and then use the upstairs for more of a regional room, have say 4-5 headliners total in the building and then have another 10 locals and regionals you could have a massive on your hands in Atlanta again. For a show like that it would probably be priced at $30 and $35 and it be a saturday night.

I'm sold... let's do it

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Originally posted by Liquified thats the thing about the tabby, they are under contract for tickets to be done through ticketmaster. But you can also go down to the box office and purchase tickets at the tabby and not pay the ticketmaster fee's. But if we could do the tabby with for instance, PVD and Another headliner (live act maybe)in the main room, then use the cotton club with 3 DnB headliners as well as locals and then use the upstairs for more of a regional room, have say 4-5 headliners total in the building and then have another 10 locals and regionals you could have a massive on your hands in Atlanta again. For a show like that it would probably be priced at $30 and $35 and it be a saturday night.

I am sold too on that... I pay $20 for eleven50 to see one headliner... Atleast two massives a year would be cool...

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Originally posted by Liquified thats the thing about the tabby, they are under contract for tickets to be done through ticketmaster. But you can also go down to the box office and purchase tickets at the tabby and not pay the ticketmaster fee's. But if we could do the tabby with for instance, PVD and Another headliner (live act maybe)in the main room, then use the cotton club with 3 DnB headliners as well as locals and then use the upstairs for more of a regional room, have say 4-5 headliners total in the building and then have another 10 locals and regionals you could have a massive on your hands in Atlanta again. For a show like that it would probably be priced at $30 and $35 and it be a saturday night.

id go, sounds like fun

I've still got a few flyers from the Mirage parties...I think the same people did parties in Memphis under the name Super Fly ENT.

MY GOD, I would goto that if it was during the day on a weekday. And man o man if pvd ever came to the tabby it would be an all out heaven for me and probably compare to the times i go see him at space in miami

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Originally posted by Liquified thats the thing about the tabby, they are under contract for tickets to be done through ticketmaster. But you can also go down to the box office and purchase tickets at the tabby and not pay the ticketmaster fee's. But if we could do the tabby with for instance, PVD and Another headliner (live act maybe)in the main room, then use the cotton club with 3 DnB headliners as well as locals and then use the upstairs for more of a regional room, have say 4-5 headliners total in the building and then have another 10 locals and regionals you could have a massive on your hands in Atlanta again. For a show like that it would probably be priced at $30 and $35 and it be a saturday night.

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