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Posted by djsphere on Oct-18-2005 18:39:

Question should i keep trying

i've been messing around with Reason 3 for a few weeks (i never used another producing program before) and i realy like it, though i think my first atempts suck big time. so, im posting a realy basic sample of what i did yesterday for you to listen. should i keep trying to improve and work harder on some full lenght tracks or i'm just too bad and i'll never produce quality stuff even if i practice and practice and practice? how did you sounded when you started out?

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Posted by Vizay on Oct-18-2005 19:02:

work on, try to create as much full length tracks as you can, you will get better in time

as you said, it's all about practice practice and practice, and be prepared that it will take some time before you get good, just remember the fun part in it, if you aren't having fun while producing it's not worth working on with it


Posted by gr8ape on Oct-18-2005 21:55:

Dont worry if what you do in the beginning is not what you want to hear, just keep writing and writing, and in time you will become better. Listen to tracks you like and try to analyze them: how is the bass, the drums etc an try to recreate this in your songs. Of course jsut the basics, you dont want to copy popular artists, but imitation will make you learn very fast


Posted by sharvax on Oct-19-2005 00:52:

Good choice using Reason. Don't worry if your music doesn't sound as good as you would like it to, I felt the same way as you. Give it time, once you get the foundation down, the rest is just experimenting!


Posted by BshidoHEAT on Oct-19-2005 03:51:

Re: should i keep trying

quote:
Originally posted by djsphere
i've been messing around with Reason 3 for a few weeks (i never used another producing program before) and i realy like it, though i think my first atempts suck big time. so, im posting a realy basic sample of what i did yesterday for you to listen. should i keep trying to improve and work harder on some full lenght tracks or i'm just too bad and i'll never produce quality stuff even if i practice and practice and practice? how did you sounded when you started out?


You've been producing for a few weeks and you say you should stop? That's a bit crazy.

I think it's a lil' unrealistic that you should find your self doing quality work in weeks. Heck it took me like 3 weeks to complete my first serious track. *still came out shitty too *

If you want to produce, you should work work work, practice practice practice and have lots of patience^3. Learn the mistakes of your first track and then improve them on your next and don't set the bar too high too quick.. you might burn out earily.


Posted by Limit on Oct-19-2005 05:05:

Think about this:

1. Am I ready to waste a shit load of my time and many years trying to learn how to produce good music...because it takes a long time!

2. Am I really ready to waste many years of my life trying to get things right when I could be doing other things.

3. If I die in 5 years and haven't released a tune but my stuff was getting really good and I really enjoyed doing it...would I be happy?


Some of this stuff may sound extreme but I'm telling you this is what happens.

think it over before you come to the darkside!


Posted by Vizay on Oct-19-2005 12:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Limit
Think about this:

1. Am I ready to waste a shit load of my time and many years trying to learn how to produce good music...because it takes a long time!

2. Am I really ready to waste many years of my life trying to get things right when I could be doing other things.

3. If I die in 5 years and haven't released a tune but my stuff was getting really good and I really enjoyed doing it...would I be happy?


Some of this stuff may sound extreme but I'm telling you this is what happens.

think it over before you come to the darkside!


well spoken, it sounds dramatic but it's true, and that could be considered sad now that I come to think of it

ohh and I might add another one to that:

4. Are you ready to become a perfectionist at the cost of not being able to just listen to a track without analyzing it to it's fullest. That will happen if you really get into producing and it's not always a good thing...


Posted by Invertika on Oct-19-2005 12:44:

I agree with no.4 but its a blessing and a curse. My taste in music has changed since producing, and some tracks i can enjoy more because of the added appreciation of the production, whilst other tracks which i may have liked before i now don't.


And djsphere, 3 weeks is absolutely NOTHING in production time. I'd say take it easy, and enjoy it while its still new, and the possibilites seem endless. If you were making really good quality music after 3 weeks, THEN i'd we worried.


Posted by Filipp on Oct-19-2005 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Vizay

4. Are you ready to become a perfectionist at the cost of not being able to just listen to a track without analyzing it to it's fullest. That will happen if you really get into producing and it's not always a good thing...



So true...


Posted by djsphere on Oct-19-2005 16:33:

Thank you all for your comments.


Posted by RoBDaWG on Oct-19-2005 16:45:

I'm in the learning stage too, and I think the best way to go about it is, don't try to "make a song" now. Learn the program, learn how to make sounds, and don't worry about putting a whole song together. That's what I'm trying to do, just get a feel for all the different things you can do. Remember, Ibiza wasnt built in a day


Posted by djsphere on Oct-19-2005 17:00:

anyone listened to the lame stuff i posted?


Posted by IDarkISwordI on Oct-19-2005 17:36:

quote:
Originally posted by djsphere
anyone listened to the lame stuff i posted?


Hey. I dont think that sample is at all lame. Its a slow spacey intro into a possibly great song. I like the power of the kick though it needs to be EQed and compressed better so it isnt rumbling but hey, 3 weeks lol. I didnt even start EQing my tracks til about a year into producing simply because I didnt know what to listen for. Compression came a lot later but with everything, it takes time to learn the craft. For the next section of the song, try fading the cutoff of the bassline up. Maybe add some resonance to it as well. Definantly dont stop producing though. I will say that this sample is a great start. Much much better than my first attempt.

Cheers,
Zac


Posted by BshidoHEAT on Oct-19-2005 18:42:

I think the sample is a little too short, there isn't enough material to actually judge. The intro is nice though .


Posted by rqpeyruxvg on Oct-19-2005 18:48:

Re: should i keep trying

quote:
Originally posted by djsphere
i've been messing around with Reason 3 for a few weeks... though i think my first atempts suck big time...


Your just starting, a few weeks wont do anything, if you dedicated enough you will stick to it and become a better producer. Hang in there.

Terry


Posted by djlogik on Oct-19-2005 18:49:

That sample is pretty sweet. It has a spacey intro like darksword I think said. My first song was nothing like this...it was little more lame but...heh. Keep working on it though I think that you could really turn that track into something pretty psytrance or something and it will sound great. Of course you're only 3 weeks into producing, but if you feel you really like it and it doesn't turn out how you think it should, then work on it another time and you might see something different that you want to do. Good luck and it will take a lot of time and practice.


Posted by Limit on Oct-19-2005 19:36:

forgot to listen to your sample...hehe. Man that reminds me of my first track so much is crazy. As long as your enjoying yourself and having fun keep it up. Good start!


Posted by djsphere on Oct-20-2005 05:37:

thank you for the positive feadback. this will keep me working on it for a while.

@ IDarkISwordI thanks for the pm, i'll drop you a line if i have any questions.

@ djlogik yes, i did that synth sound with psytrance in mind, i hope i can create the rest of the elements and then build the track.


Posted by david.michael on Oct-20-2005 18:57:

I think it sounds like an excellent first stab.


Posted by ehRipper on Oct-21-2005 00:28:

Yea if that is actually your 3 week attempt its pretty good , I almost wanna call bluff


Posted by djsphere on Oct-21-2005 05:31:

actualy i said "i've been messing around with Reason 3 for a few weeks" not 3 weeks, i think it's more like a month or so, don't know for sure.



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