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Your opinions of the Toronto "scene"

Helloo,

Just wanted to get a general idea of what Montrealers think of T.O. I know there was some threads saying that many TOTAs are weird and really dont know the music (I'm not denying that)..and I know we just had the Hawtin, Cox, Maas, Corsten event which is rare because they keep recycling Armin down here. But what do you think in terms of the parties, scene and people here (TAs) compared to MTL?

Too many 50 year old Asians cracked out, standing around and being china town.

Too many pushy Ginos and clubbers that just keep walking around and pushing you rudely.

Atmosphere is nothing compared to the laid back, relaxed and friendly shit you get in Montreal.

This is only based off three journeys to Guvernment.

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Originally posted by Kendo This is only based off three journeys to Guvernment.

An important factor to keep in mind...

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Originally posted by Kendo This is only based off three journeys to Guvernment.

then you don't have a basis to comment on the toronto "scene" at all.

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Originally posted by Skipper then you don't have a basis to comment on the toronto "scene" at all.

so how many visits does it take?

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Originally posted by malek so how many visits does it take?

One, just not at the guv

I think the rave scene from the 90s is dead... I'm from Vancouver and I know it's pretty much dead there. I know back in the late 90s Toronto had some great "raver" parties that my friends went to...

3 times is enough for me... I don't need to go over and over again to see how it sucks. My friends that I party with in Montreal went to Boa and weren't impressed with the crowd either.

Unfortunately my impression of Toronto is that of Vancouver... too many club superstars standing around looking pretty or Asians looking gangster and trying to be cocky and cool.

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Originally posted by Kendo too many club superstars standing around looking pretty or Asians looking gangster and trying to be cocky and cool.

thats what i heard too from alot of people

but i still cant answer that question till i go (wishes is never probably)

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Originally posted by malek so how many visits does it take?

it's not the number of visits, it's the different parts of the scene here that you make a point of experiencing.

you can go to guv and hear mark oliver 100 times, still doesn't mean you can really say anything about the "scene" here!

(sorry - it just drives me nuts to hear people refer to the scene in toronto as guvernment and system and that's it)

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Originally posted by Kendo My friends that I party with in Montreal went to Boa and weren't impressed with the crowd either.

I've gone to Aria many times and have always found the crowd to be sketchy and anonymous.

does that mean it sucks? No... does that mean your scene sucks? No...

It just means I was in a club in a different city and felt slightly out of place and was skeptical of everything and everyone. If the crowd sucks, sometimes it is because you just dont feel a part of it like you would in your hometown.

You know what sucks? this debate. let it go. we have two totally different scenes, and we should be happy that they are within driving distance of one another!!

i believe toronto doesnt have a scene..i mean technically it does but ginos who come to an event because they think its the place to be and couldnt care less if the DJ played Liebing or DJ Sammy doesnt say much...asians who come chill and do drugs all day is just funny...club heroes all dressed up because they do not like hip hop doesnt mean anything...strict by laws limiting evennts and different types of events...theres a small following but not enough for a "scene"

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Originally posted by sufee_b i believe toronto doesnt have a scene..i mean technically it does but ginos who come to an event because they think its the place to be and couldnt care less if the DJ played Liebing or DJ Sammy doesnt say much...asians who come chill and do drugs all day is just funny...club heroes all dressed up because they do not like hip hop doesnt mean anything...strict by laws limiting evennts and different types of events...theres a small following but not enough for a "scene"

Most ignorant thing I've ever read in this forum...and that says a lot!

Do you think people don't do drugs in Montreal or something? We don't have a single club that stays open as late for as long as stereo does. Having a nightclub open until the late morning or afternoon just encourages drug use to keep the party going.

there are people who dont know anything about the music in EVERY city, believe it or not.

Ok Skipper, someone else started this thread to hear opinions and people have given them and you're basically saying their opinions don't count for one reason or another.

If you insists that Toronto does have a scene, that's fine, but perhaps that scene is only limited to those who are hardcore into the music and what not.

Where as in Montreal if you were to ask someone on St-Catherine's or another big street where they could "party all night" they'd be like "Uhhh, Circus, Stereo, Aria, Red-Lite in Laval..." Plus they may even tell you about after parties or pre-parties here here and there.

Basicaly what I get out of people not "knowing there's a scene outside system and guv" is, there may very well be a scene but if it's hard to find then perhaps it's kinda small.

"Toronto scene" is an oxymoron.

why is this continuously brought up?? who cares.. each city has their own scene and whatever that may be so be it..

Here is the way I see it.. people who don't like Toronto won't come here and people who don't like Montreal won't go there.. simple!
These are the same opinions that have been mentioned in every other thread about why Toronto sucks.. so be it if that is their opinion.. why keep mentioning it in another thread to get bashed again if it bothers you so much. It is a repetative answer that will always be there so stop worrying about it..

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Originally posted by Lopitrance Ok Skipper, someone else started this thread to hear opinions and people have given them and you're basically saying their opinions don't count for one reason or another.

Yes, because you can't comment on the toronto scene (and expect to be taken seriously) when you have only been to one club.

I expect people to discredit my opinion on Montreal because I've only been to aria and unity.

that is like saying "I went to texas once, and that makes me an expert on what is going on in the whole country!"

Toronto has a HUGE scene. We have tons of up and coming DJs - who enter DJ competitions, who get gigs, who bring something new to our scene all the time. we have small clubs that book new, non-top-100-DJ-list DJs all the time to expose us to new sounds. We have quite a few record stores that do very well selling all kinds of genres of music. on any given night, except maybe Monday and Tues, we have jammin parties happening all over the city. do they all have tiesto playing? No...but the music is good, whether it be local or international.

I'm not here to say that TO's scene is better, I'm just saying it's THERE. And as someone who is heavily involved in it, I am pretty confident saying my opinion should hold a bit more weight than someone from out of town who has only been to the guvernment.

Skipper I think you're turning on Kendo a little too quickly. The guy wasn't saying horrible things about Toronto, he was merely posting his opinion and to be honest: I think he presented it pretty respectfully.

Everyone has a right to have their opinion. I agree about the pushy pretty looking clubbers who don't know who the DJ is though. It's sort of the same thing at circus though, and it will exactly like that when tiesto will be there.

i find it funny that MTLTA comment on the scene in their own city when only 3 of them even go out anywhere.

i think i have been to more parties in MTL, then some of these people.


Toronto club scene is very strong on all levels.

Not only that, but why is a person from TOTA asking MTLTAs on the scene in Toronto?

Why not ask the people in Toronto that actually know the scene in said city?

haha, this is reminding me of the non-stop bickering that used to go on between atlanta and miami


i say, just be happy yall at least have seperate forums


either way, cant we all just get along?

group hug, people!!!

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Originally posted by Skipper Yes, because you can't comment on the toronto scene (and expect to be taken seriously) when you have only been to one club. I expect people to discredit my opinion on Montreal because I've only been to aria and unity. that is like saying "I went to texas once, and that makes me an expert on what is going on in the whole country!" Toronto has a HUGE scene. We have tons of up and coming DJs - who enter DJ competitions, who get gigs, who bring something new to our scene all the time. we have small clubs that book new, non-top-100-DJ-list DJs all the time to expose us to new sounds. We have quite a few record stores that do very well selling all kinds of genres of music. on any given night, except maybe Monday and Tues, we have jammin parties happening all over the city. do they all have tiesto playing? No...but the music is good, whether it be local or international. I'm not here to say that TO's scene is better, I'm just saying it's THERE. And as someone who is heavily involved in it, I am pretty confident saying my opinion should hold a bit more weight than someone from out of town who has only been to the guvernment.

Come on skipper

You're the worse sport i've ever seen

Anybody who says something that isn't exactly what you would say is an idiot and haven't seen anything in his life. Whereas you've seen everything and done all thing. I've tried a couple of times to get you to think outside of you comfort zone and you've never done anything that prove what an half-minded person you are. No one needs to even go to Toronto to know that, if there is a scene, it's not nowhere near as healthy as the Montreal Scene ! Toronto scene, whether you like it or not, for most people, only consist of the Guvernment, the system and Boa.

KrinKer

LMAO, c'mon Sarah, didn't you know! geez

Hey Skipper I made it clear the basis of my comments were on the fact I'd only been to Guvernment 3 times. My opinion of the overall scene as far as clubbing and afterhours applies to Vancouver and Toronto though.

I've lived in Vancouver 15 years, Montreal 7, I know people that have lived in all of the cities, Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal... and no offence but the club/afterhour scene -IS- much better in Montreal. I think the fact the city is Montreal in itself makes it more of a laid back, "Hey let's relax and party together in peace!" type of attitude. Yes, you might find that in some clubs/lounges in Vancouver and Toronto but the overall atmosphere not just in the party scene but in business is more fast-paced and uptight. Part of why I haven't left Montreal to work in NYC, TO or back home is because I don't want to leave the lifestyle.

Personally I think there's too many gangster Asians in both Toronto and Vancouver that poison the club scene.

Stereoprincess, I'm -guessing- that you're Sabrina, and I'm hoping you're not implying that I don't go out in the Montreal scene. I'm probably one of the least bias partiers in Montreal considering I don't hate Circus to death and still frequent all three downtown afterhours on a weekly basis... along with a visit to Redlight every few months.

Can't we all get a bong?!

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