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Posted by xstalkrx on Oct-22-2005 19:39:

Audacity

I'm using Audacity to record my first set. When the set is finished, I want the listener to be able to cycle through tracks on the mixed CD. Yes, the CD will be mixed but I want the listener to be able to move forward through the set using the "next track" button on his/her cd player. Is it possible to do with this program? If not, what free prog out there will allow this?

Posted by alefort on Oct-22-2005 19:51:

You will have to create your own .CUE file for it. Once you have done that, I believe the latest version of Nero allows CUE burning with WAV files. Not too sure on the specific format for the cue file, but can't be too hard to find online.

Posted by xstalkrx on Oct-22-2005 20:02:

So I will need a program other than Nero to make the .cue file?

Posted by skip on Oct-22-2005 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
So I will need a program other than Nero to make the .cue file?



yes, notepad.


Posted by xstalkrx on Oct-22-2005 20:45:

how is that possible. notepad is .txt files.

Posted by Dj_Es-Dva on Oct-22-2005 21:03:

all it needs to be is a text file, with the .cue extension. it has to be set up in a certain way. find an example because im too tired..

Posted by Ygrene on Oct-22-2005 21:12:

Here is what your cue file would look like: (please ignore the cheesy tracks)

TITLE "Excessive Energy"

PERFORMER "Dollar"

FILE �"C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My Documents\Productions\DollarThirdMix.wav"� WAVE

TRACK 01 AUDIO

TITLE "DJ Jean - Lift Me Up (Barthezz Uplifting Remix)"

INDEX 00 00:00:00

INDEX 01 00:00:00

TRACK 02 AUDIO

TITLE "CRW - I Feel Love (Dumonde Remix)"

INDEX 00 07:48:72

INDEX 01 07:50:72

TRACK 03 AUDIO

TITLE "Quo Vadis - Sonic Boom (Yomanda Remix)"

INDEX 00 13:26:58

INDEX 01 13:28:58

TRACK 04 AUDIO

TITLE "Marc Et Claude - Loving You (DJ Isaac Remix)"

INDEX 00 19:24:42

INDEX 01 19:26:42

TRACK 05 AUDIO

TITLE "Novy vs. Eniac - Pumpin'"

INDEX 00 24:21:09

INDEX 01 24:23:09

TRACK 06 AUDIO

TITLE "Rachel Auburn - Bass Keeps Pumpin'"

INDEX 00 29:59:34

INDEX 01 30:01:34

TRACK 07 AUDIO

TITLE "Heatseeker - Xplicit"

INDEX 00 34:43:43

INDEX 01 34:45:43

TRACK 08 AUDIO

TITLE "Derb - Derb (Derbus Mix)"

INDEX 00 39:31:14

INDEX 01 39:33:14

TRACK 09 AUDIO

TITLE "Voodoo & Serano - Blood Is Pumpin'"

INDEX 00 45:53:43

INDEX 01 45:55:43

TRACK 10 AUDIO

TITLE "Cinderella - The Realm (DJ Spoke Remix)"

INDEX 00 52:05:54

INDEX 01 52:07:54

TRACK 11 AUDIO

TITLE "Arome - Somebody (Hangover Help Mix)"

INDEX 00 56:43:12

INDEX 01 56:45:12

TRACK 12 AUDIO

TITLE "Yakooza - Cocaine (Derb Remix)"

INDEX 00 01:02:48:40

INDEX 01 01:02:50:40

TRACK 13 AUDIO

TITLE "DJ Scot Project - Future Is Now (Hardriff Mix)"

INDEX 00 01:09:32:67

INDEX 01 01:09:34:67

Then when you go to save it in Notepad:

1. choose 'Save As'
2. switch file type from '.txt' to 'all files'
3. give your file a .cue extension
4. voila! That is it!

Just make sure you save the file as a .txt also, because if you only save it as .cue, you will not be able to open again with Notepad if you have to edit it.

Posted by skip on Oct-22-2005 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Here is what your cue file would look like: (please ignore the cheesy tracks)

TITLE "Excessive Energy"

PERFORMER "Dollar"

FILE �"C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My Documents\Productions\DollarThirdMix.wav"� WAVE

TRACK 01 AUDIO

TITLE "DJ Jean - Lift Me Up (Barthezz Uplifting Remix)"

INDEX 00 00:00:00

INDEX 01 00:00:00

TRACK 02 AUDIO

TITLE "CRW - I Feel Love (Dumonde Remix)"

INDEX 00 07:48:72

INDEX 01 07:50:72

TRACK 03 AUDIO

TITLE "Quo Vadis - Sonic Boom (Yomanda Remix)"

INDEX 00 13:26:58

INDEX 01 13:28:58

TRACK 04 AUDIO

TITLE "Marc Et Claude - Loving You (DJ Isaac Remix)"

INDEX 00 19:24:42

INDEX 01 19:26:42

TRACK 05 AUDIO

TITLE "Novy vs. Eniac - Pumpin'"

INDEX 00 24:21:09

INDEX 01 24:23:09

TRACK 06 AUDIO

TITLE "Rachel Auburn - Bass Keeps Pumpin'"

INDEX 00 29:59:34

INDEX 01 30:01:34

TRACK 07 AUDIO

TITLE "Heatseeker - Xplicit"

INDEX 00 34:43:43

INDEX 01 34:45:43

TRACK 08 AUDIO

TITLE "Derb - Derb (Derbus Mix)"

INDEX 00 39:31:14

INDEX 01 39:33:14

TRACK 09 AUDIO

TITLE "Voodoo & Serano - Blood Is Pumpin'"

INDEX 00 45:53:43

INDEX 01 45:55:43

TRACK 10 AUDIO

TITLE "Cinderella - The Realm (DJ Spoke Remix)"

INDEX 00 52:05:54

INDEX 01 52:07:54

TRACK 11 AUDIO

TITLE "Arome - Somebody (Hangover Help Mix)"

INDEX 00 56:43:12

INDEX 01 56:45:12

TRACK 12 AUDIO

TITLE "Yakooza - Cocaine (Derb Remix)"

INDEX 00 01:02:48:40

INDEX 01 01:02:50:40

TRACK 13 AUDIO

TITLE "DJ Scot Project - Future Is Now (Hardriff Mix)"

INDEX 00 01:09:32:67

INDEX 01 01:09:34:67

Then when you go to save it in Notepad:

1. choose 'Save As'
2. switch file type from '.txt' to 'all files'
3. give your file a .cue extension
4. voila! That is it!

Just make sure you save the file as a .txt also, because if you only save it as .cue, you will not be able to open again with Notepad if you have to edit it.



yes you can, just right click and open with and choose notepad from there.

and here's what i've been using for my cue files (i made one cue sheet i can use by just changing all the performers, titles and times):

TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
FILE "insert filename.mp3" MP3
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 10 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 11 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 12 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 13 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 14 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 15 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 16 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 17 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 18 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 19 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 20 AUDIO
TITLE "insert title"
PERFORMER "insert performer"
INDEX 01 00:00:00

Posted by Ygrene on Oct-22-2005 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by skip

yes you can, just right click and open with and choose notepad from there.



Hahahahaha! Well I'll be damned!


*deletes .txt's*

Posted by skip on Oct-22-2005 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Hahahahaha! Well I'll be damned!


*deletes .txt's*



Posted by xstalkrx on Oct-22-2005 22:28:

downloaded nero 1.0 and not really sure what it is. Dont see any way to burn a CD or how to use a .cue file with it.

Posted by F�anor on Oct-22-2005 23:26:

What about those two secs between index 00 and 01? Is this a 2 sec of silence between tracks?

Posted by DragonsEmerald on Oct-23-2005 05:23:

quote:
Originally posted by F�anor
What about those two secs between index 00 and 01? Is this a 2 sec of silence between tracks?


That's what I want to know too. I have been trying to find a way to burn a mixed cd with split tracks and no pause in between the tracks (like a mixed cd you would buy).

Posted by F�anor on Oct-23-2005 05:45:

Then I think you should just not write the second index between tracks like the second example.

Posted by skip on Oct-23-2005 09:40:

quote:
Originally posted by F�anor
Then I think you should just not write the second index between tracks like the second example.



exactly. Ygrene's cue has pauses between the tracks, mine doesn't.



and there's a good cue file tutorial in the FAQ forum and cue files were discussed here in dj booth just a couple of days ago too, so search and you shall find more info!

Posted by Ygrene on Oct-23-2005 13:50:

Here is the CUE FILE TUTORIAL

And what i think is the best post in the thread:

quote:
Originally posted by goonerjack
This is a great thread on cue files, but the information is a bit all over the place so I thought I�d sum it up in a definitive guide.

In basic terms, a cue file splits up a liveset (or any other long piece of music) into smaller segments. This means that, although the music will still play continually, you can skip to a certain song and the name of the song currently playing will show, if the equipment is CD text compatible.

A cue file can be created in notepad and it has to be made to be explicitly correct, as computers can�t interpret any possible mistakes. I�ll give an example of a cue file and explain it beneath.


PERFORMER "Mixed by DJ Nonsdrome"
TITLE "Trance Night Vol. 8"
FILE "c:\music\Trance Night Vol. 8 - Mixed by DJ Nonsdrome.mp3" MP3
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "01 - DJ Shog - Another World (Instrumental Club Remix)"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "02 - Magic Wave & MVL - Did You Hear Me (Marc Van Linden Remix)"
INDEX 00 05:47:74
INDEX 01 05:49:74
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "03 - Alex Bartlett - Amnesia (Steve Murano Remix)"
INDEX 00 11:05:16
INDEX 01 11:07:16
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "04 - Dave 202 & Phil Green feat. Savier - Moments of Silence"
INDEX 00 14:01:47
INDEX 01 14:03:47
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "05 - Mind One feat. Rena - Star For Me (Instrumental Remix)"
INDEX 00 18:52:18
INDEX 01 18:54:18
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "06 - Orion's Voice - The Next Life (Origin Unknown Remix)"
INDEX 00 23:39:55
INDEX 01 23:41:55


The first three lines are pretty self explanatory, fill in the performer and title inbetween the quote marks on the appropriate line.

As for the file, just put in the full directory of the file. To check it is the full directory, copy it and paste in to Start, Run and click OK. If it�s right, the file will open. Also, after the quote mark you need a space and then what type of file it is. In the above example it is a .mp3 file so you should write MP3. If it was a .wav file you write WAVE (note the �e� on the end).

The file name of the cue sheet and the file name of the music file all have to match or you will get a line 3 error message.

Where it says TITLE by the files, in between the quotes put the name of the track that you want to show up on a computer, or any device that supports this.

Now for the INDEX part � this is how the computer knows where to split up the tracks. The numbers go like this � minutes:seconds:frame. The frame is a slice of a second � there are 80 of them in a second. You could leave the frame at 00, but the track number would change at the start of the second, not on the beat (unless you�re lucky!). You can use a program to find exactly which frame the track changes, but I won�t go into that here. Instead, if you count and think it�s about half a second in, put 40. A quarter of the way in, 20 etc.

As you�ve noticed, there are two INDEX numbers, 00 and 01. INDEX 00 is two seconds before INDEX 01 (which is where the track changes). This allows the CD player to continually play while changing tracks.

Do this for all of the tracks and just save the notepad file (it will be a .txt file).

One final thing to note here � the name of the cue file must be the same as the name of the music file.

If you can�t be bothered to create your own cue file then the biggest resource I know of is: http://www.regeert.nl/cuesheet/

Now to explain how to put these cue files on to a disc...

The program that I�m using is CDRWin, you could also use Nero or as well as a number of other programs. Note � Adaptec Easy CD creator doesn�t support cue files. The version of CDRWin is a trial version so you can only burn at 1x speed. This isn�t too bad (about 13 mins to burn a 70 minute CD) but you can �obtain� a serial number to make it function as normal if you look around.

It�s really simple in CDRWin, all you need to do is locate the file you want to burn, locate the appropriate cue sheet and click record disk.

Hopefully that�s everything, anything that you think I�ve missed/should add, just reply and I�ll edit it.

Jack.


p.s. - no pauses on my cd's

But it looks like it can work either way.


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