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who thinks we need a "whats on" thread where people post which events are coming up and maybe some rumor tours ect.

thoughts?

how bout a monthly thread, cause it gets pretty cluttered if its all in just one
i mean all you have to do is sticky and then unsticky and it slowly drifts off into oblivion

Thats a great idea.

From memory a few years back we had a thread like that which was stickied and that worked really well.

Would that mean you cant have a thread to discuss one particular event?

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Originally posted by xtractorfan Would that mean you cant have a thread to discuss one particular event?

thats where it gets tricky, its used as a reference as to which parties are on ect, it can be used to stamp out people just joining to post their events and not contribute to any other part of ta.

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how bout a monthly thread, cause it gets pretty cluttered if its all in just one i mean all you have to do is sticky and then unsticky and it slowly drifts off into oblivion

That could work, i was kinda thinking of just updating the first post with event details, maybe a monthly thing would work better.

Without event threads though, it might get a tad quiet in here. I mean, if you start including things like Gods, Slinky, Two Tribes, even DJ tours like Sasha etc there would be quite a few less threads.

While that might be the idea, i think it would probably cut the number too much. ANd then do people discuss or post reviews etc in that same thread? Cos it might get a bit hard to follow if people are posting reviews etc in there or people start rabbiting on about how they are all excited about an upcoming event. Or do you draw the line and say big events are allowed their own threads, while club events have to go in the group one. But then some big events are club events (Slinky for example), so where do you draw the line? And big DJ tours, for example your Darren Tate thread, where should that go? Is it going to have to be a case of people having to pm you to seek permission to post a thread on an upcoming event because they don't know which category it falls under.

Also, with the balance of Melbourne:Sydney:Adelaide events, Adelaide events especially may get lost in that thread by just being swamped by Melbourne events etc. (I'm ignoring Perth and Brisbane, because they post probably even less event threads than Adelaide, and thats bloody saying something!!)

^^Thats probably the main problem with the idea of a reference thread, that and people going "Woot, awesome!" for 5 pages after someone posts that DJ Cheesemaster Elite is touring.

I don't see too much wrong with how it is at the moment, its not as if its out of control atm, as long as people use the Self-promo thread when appropriate I don't think theres a problem.

Sounds like a good idea... keep a thread sticky, and have people only replying with what events are coming up
and in addition to that, the first post of the thread should like say what's on for the next week or fortnight for different cities (so you dont have to go browsing through the entire thread to find what's on) with link to the post and thread if there's a thread for the event too

definitely keep the threads for events going, just like they are now

i agree with Nutter

where the poll at jolz?

yeh, an events sub-forum (not just a sticky thread) is needed. kinda like how the TOTA's have set up their forums.

as for lack of discussion coz all the events are moved, not really. i think it encourages further discussion and people who want to find out what's on know where to go instead of sifting through the random topics (and vice versa). a sub-forum (as opposed to a sticky thread) will do away with most of what nutter is talking about anyway.

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Originally posted by tathi i agree with Nutter

do you really agree with nutter, or are you just saying that cause you can see the nut

He loves the nut

But yeah, i have to agree, i don't think it is a good idea.

just post a link to the whats on section of itm

1 request.

Any non trance events not be promoted.

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK where the poll at jolz? yeh, an events sub-forum (not just a sticky thread) is needed. kinda like how the TOTA's have set up their forums.

Thats beyond my control, i have heard its on the cards though.

I think its okay the way it is, most event threads tend to end up in discussions not really related to the event anyway.

As long as the self promo thread is used properly.

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Originally posted by batemanscott I think its okay the way it is, most event threads tend to end up in discussions not really related to the event anyway. As long as the self promo thread is used properly.

then how do we stamp out people making threads to promote their night, without making any other contribution to ta?

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Originally posted by Paulie 1 request. Any non trance events not be promoted.

check out this thread.

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Originally posted by narcism then how do we stamp out people making threads to promote their night, without making any other contribution to ta?

Thats a fair point. Are you not able to simply state in the rules of thread posting that if they are not regular contributers their threads will be removed?

I'm with Nutter, I don't think it'd work to try and compress all of the event threads into one, given that there could be up to 10 events upcomming or just passed at a time, it would get far to cluttered, and there would be confusion as to which event people were refering, when they ask questions or make comments.

Plus a thread like this would blowout to hundreds of pages mightly quickly, seperate threads for events are needed, perhapps if swamper can organise an events subforum, and have a [Mel] or [Syd] tag at the start of the thread title.. just an idea.

Without the event threads to perpetuate intelligent conversation (in some cases anyway) what's left is just a bunch of waffle really "Soups... discuss" etc.

As to seperating out the influx of promotion threads, perhapps a guidelines sticky at the top of the page indicating that only members with 'supreme tranceaddict' status or something along those lines can start a promotions thread, if it gets a little grey, then it is just a forum afterall, just go with the popular opinion of the contributing members.

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Originally posted by G`Dave Plus a thread like this would blowout to hundreds of pages mightly quickly, seperate threads for events are needed, perhapps if swamper can organise an events subforum, and have a [Mel] or [Syd] tag at the start of the thread title.. just an idea. As to seperating out the influx of promotion threads, perhapps a guidelines sticky at the top of the page indicating that only members with 'supreme tranceaddict' status or something along those lines can start a promotions thread, if it gets a little grey, then it is just a forum afterall, just go with the popular opinion of the contributing members.

It worked last time because the front page all the events, it contained all the details so people didnt have to ask questions. As i said a subforum is apparently on the "to do list" for swampie. I agree to a rules sticky but i want everyone to kinda come to the same conclusion about the rules to make it fair for everyone. As for who can post promo threads, there used to be something like you suggested. And there are ways of getting around that AJS1 used to pm me the details for unify and i used to post them ect so whose to say they wont do the same thing

As for the supreme status, there is enough spammin that goes on around here, it will only encourage the n00bs to post utter garbage so they can reach a point where they are entitled to make their own threads.

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Originally posted by narcism As for the supreme status, there is enough spammin that goes on around here, it will only encourage the n00bs to post utter garbage so they can reach a point where they are entitled to make their own threads.

As if us supreme TA's haven't been posting utter garbage for the last three years

If you are refering to some kind of message board, similar to the inthemix 'what's on' section, where promoters can post up the details of an uncoming events then I'm all for it.
However I don't think the layout of vBulletin is suitable for such a thing, the discussion of the events would have to be in a seperate thread, otherwise, it would in essence be exactly the same situation we have now. The event thread would either become a cluttered mess, or there would be a seperate thread, simply containing a single post for each upcoming event, and a seperate discussion thread of the event.

I suppose that the promoters who want to exploit these boards will find a way, either by spamming relentlessly, or by asking a contact or theirs to initiate the thread. I reckon there needs to be some sort of guidelines as to who can or can't start promotion threads, I'm not suggesting that it be jeft up to a single person to judge who is 'worthy'.
But that said, given the situation, there is room for movement for some initiative to lock threads that clearly arn't in the interest of TA members, as it is at the moment, it may be difficult to define set rules to who may create threads, but it would be exceptionally easy to identify which threads arn't in the general interest and take action to remove them.

I propose a middle ground to these two extremes, more... guidelines as the promotion privilages rather than rules set in concrete.

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Originally posted by narcism then how do we stamp out people making threads to promote their night, without making any other contribution to ta?

you hit the thread delete button!

an alternative would be to have a 'whats-on this month' sticky for the hit-n-run promoters, whilst maintaining a list of 'authorised' promoters on au.ta who are allowed to create threads to promote their own events (obsession, 5am, unify, anot, etc etc).

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you are more than welcome to post threads about your night, but there are two rules you must think about first: 1) you may only regularly promote a night in here if you are an active and participating member of the forum or have made some sort of significant contributions in the past. if anyone posts regularly about their night, and nothing else, action will be taken. 2) only post a thread once a month (maybe twice if the night is more regular like weekly) 3) Bumping of events is strictly prohibited. Offending posts will be deleted. Information updates to an event are allowed within reason. Fake accounts for the purpose of bumping threads will be deleted. 4) promoting of free parties is allowable regardless as the posters are not posting to have any commercial gain.

i was kinda thinking of making something like this thread
click to see
and once someone posts a party its added to the list then their post is deleted.

Yeah those look like a good set of guidlines to me, a happy medium where a good idea of what's tolerated is easy to understand, but flexible enough to allow for action without getting caught up in the technicalities.

As for adding new promotion threads to a sticky events thread, and then deleting the original post, I still don't understand where general discussion of the event is going to take place. In the sticky thread? Cause if this is the case, I can only imagine that such a thread will become hoplessly congested.

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