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cdj 200 feel vs. cdj 1000

A question for anyone that has used both pioneer CDJs..

how different is the feel between a CDJ 200 and the CDJ 1000s. Gonna be doing a small set at a club that has the 1000s, but never used them before, but I do have the 200s at home. Will there be a small learning curve with the jog wheel's sensitivity or is it negligible?

Coming from the numark CD players to the pioneer was a learning curve since the numark required many revolutions of the wheel for the same pitch bending that the pioneer did with a 1/4 turn of the wheel!

thanks

Same exact thing, just never touch the top of the platter, always the sides for pitch bend.

or better yet, put it in CDJ mode instead of vinyl mode, then you can touch the top and it doesn't matter.

awesome! so a 1/4 turn on a CDJ1000 is the same as 1/4 on a CDJ 200??

what about the fader if I'm used to a 6% on the 200, can you adjust the pitch fader so that the same length of fader movement corresponds to a +/- 6%??

thanks

Actually they are much different IMO. The 200 is much smaller, has a much smaller jog wheel. The CDJ 1000 is larger, has a larger jog wheel, a bit heavier, made of mostly steel (cept for the plastic jog wheel). I personally think the CDJ 200 is too small, even smaller than the CDJ 800. The jog wheel also seems to dip on it. The only complain about the CDJ 1000s (that I own) is that the jog wheels have alot of friction, more so than the CDJ 200, so when you move it to pitch bend, you can hear it sliding. I didn't notice this as much on the CDJ 200. One of my jog wheels is slightly looser than the other as well, which takes time to get used to. This is an inherent problem it seems, as i've heard other people on here and on the pioneer forums notice this. Not a bg deal really though....

yes, have one jog wheel tighter than the other on my CDJ 200s

hmm so the feel is significantly different then eh? hmm hopefully there wont be a noticible learning curve since they're both pioneers...

Also gonna miss the WAH effect and the one bar looping/loop cutter that I have on the CDJ 200...

hopefully pioneer will add these features to the next upgrade for the CDJ 1000... probably wont be for a long long time though

In response to your first comment, yet it seems like a lot of pioneer products seem to not all be made exactly the same. Two CDJ 1000s aren't made perfect, so I guess it's just an inherent thing to have one tigher than the other. The looser one is great for scratching, the tighter one is a bit better for pitch bending. It's not a huge difference though.

The feel is different. I tried all three. The CDJ 200 feels a bit different than the 1000 and 800, which are about the same other than the 800 having a slightly looser jog wheel and being smaller. The CDJ 200 is just too small as I noted, and it would take some getting used to when going from a 200 to a 1000 or 800. Going from an 800 to a 1000 is quite easy because of their vinyl emulation with their platters and the feel which is practically the same.

And with the effects, who really needs them? I mean the reason Pioneer didn't put these on the CDJ 1000 or 800 is because they have an effector, like the EFX 500, which true aren't cheap, but i've heard that the effects on those are superior to those on the CDJ 200 or those other CD players with built in effects. Guys like James Zambiela can truly do some great stuff with an effector, hence just adding it on to a CD player would take away from the player being what it is...a device to mix tracks and scratch. Imagine going back and forth on the same deck from using effects to trying to beatmix or scratch at the same time, it just seems kind of awkward. The EFX 500 or the 1000 were intended for effects...not CDJs.

don't worry, I was in the same boat, I have 200's and have went on to play on 1000's with no problemo.

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Originally posted by djshtr awesome! so a 1/4 turn on a CDJ1000 is the same as 1/4 on a CDJ 200?? what about the fader if I'm used to a 6% on the 200, can you adjust the pitch fader so that the same length of fader movement corresponds to a +/- 6%?? thanks

If you wanna make sure you know how to do everything you could want to (and also to avoid being in a situation where you've pressed a wrong button or something and don't know what to do about it), I recommend grabbing the manual and having a good read.

And that goes for anyone who's likely to be playing out on a bit of kit they've never used before... people seem to be reluctant to read a manual to make sure they know how to use a bit of kit and then complain when they got to a club and had to use something they'd never used before! I agree the best way to learn how to use something is just to have a play and see what you can do, but if you haven't got a certain bit of kit at home you don't really have this liberty.

just go to guitar center (bring a cd) and play around on the 1000 til you feel comfortable. duh?

see that was the plan but the only guitar center in manhattan doesn't have CDJ 1000s on display! can you believe that??

anyway, shouldn't be too much of a change from a 200...

didnt know you lived in manhattan...yeah they only have 800's on display there.

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Originally posted by djshtr see that was the plan but the only guitar center in manhattan doesn't have CDJ 1000s on display! can you believe that?? anyway, shouldn't be too much of a change from a 200...

True, although the 1000s MK2 are superior to the 200s in every imaginable way. Ditch your 200s and get 1000s...
Refuge

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Originally posted by refuge.o1` True, although the 1000s MK2 are superior to the 200s in every imaginable way. Ditch your 200s and get 1000s... Refuge

in EVERY way?
1. There's no effects (WAH is amazing, esp for house)
2. No MP3 Capability
3. No PLAY from CUE (if you are stuttering with CUE, holding play at the same time converts the stutter to a continued play)
4. Did I mention no MP3 capability?
5. No instant 1 bar loop with loop cutter

.. yet somehow i still drool when i see a CDJ 1000.

The platter feels like paper and the effects are hit and miss. 1000s have a nice thick, vinyl-emulating platter, and most importantly: Vinyl mode. EFX unit has dozens of more capabilities and the MP3 function doesn't have very good quality-playback.. but you need about $800 more dollars for the 1000s Take care.
Cheers:
Refuge

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