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Posted by Tayfoon on Oct-25-2005 00:20:

Mp3 DJ's

So

Im browsing through the endless sea of shit that floods the Tlist forum and I notice that all these "radio shows" are full of pukes who play illegal mp3's, and im saying 90% of these etn/party 107 do this.

The thing you should understand is, no one gives a fuck about what you play in the first place, so playing shit that is "exlusive" doesnt really make you a better DJ.

Also it has come to my attention that half of these "DJs" cant even beatmatch, and use shit like traktor or whatever to mix their shit shows.


I really dont see the point in this


Discuss


Posted by flavdave on Oct-25-2005 00:30:

This thread could get messy, but I agree with you.


Posted by Fundamental on Oct-25-2005 00:39:

I'm not too familiar with those stations or the DJs that play on them, so I can't pass any specific comments. In general though, many of them are obvious neophiliacs, desperate to play a set of tunes that are new rather than a set of tunes that would work well and sound good together.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-25-2005 00:44:

How do you figure they're illegal?


Posted by Tayfoon on Oct-25-2005 00:59:

Because bedroom djs arent on any recrod labels promo list


Posted by Zenchowdah on Oct-25-2005 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
Because bedroom djs arent on any recrod labels promo list


maybe they ripped it from a liveset? still not quite legal, but not really illegal, either.


Posted by Tayfoon on Oct-25-2005 01:26:

Well I say, if you arent supposed to have it, dont play it


Posted by Zenchowdah on Oct-25-2005 01:41:

what does your sig refer to?


Posted by flavdave on Oct-25-2005 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Fundamental
In general though, many of them are obvious neophiliacs


Necrophiliacs?


Posted by kadomony on Oct-25-2005 01:44:

doesnt mean they have to be on a promo list.

i get promo tunes from well known producers who let me play em.
sure, there'll always be ppl who play illegal downloads though.


Posted by Lepanto on Oct-25-2005 01:48:

This isn't the only site or forum for EDM DJs and producers. many other forums and groups out there where labels and producers share their works with other members. so you have no case as to say that all the mp3s are illegal. that's like saying that any DJ live has illegal mp3s and idk about where you are but here i see that all the time.


Posted by dOgMa55 on Oct-25-2005 02:21:

Satan (eek!)

I mix mp3 jus for fun all the time. im sure a few i got got vinyls or cd of, but still i dont see what the HUGE deal is its not like theyre gaining anything at all


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-25-2005 03:52:

what about white labels? I say we kill them djs who play those illegal tunes too !!!



wheres my pitch fork.


Posted by Tayfoon on Oct-25-2005 04:03:

Difference between white labels, is DJ's either bought them, or are allowed to play them

No one wants mp3 kiddies to play new unreleased shit on their "radio show", doesnt exactly help the release


Posted by flavdave on Oct-25-2005 04:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
No one wants mp3 kiddies to play new unreleased shit on their "radio show", doesnt exactly help the release


I would say that it helps promote the track (which is good for a producer), but in reality it seems like those DJs you speak of usually cater to listeners who leech mp3s themselves (not so good for the producer).


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Oct-25-2005 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
I would say that it helps promote the track (which is good for a producer), but in reality it seems like those DJs you speak of usually cater to listeners who leech mp3s themselves (not so good for the producer).


I agree with this point a lot.

Certainly there seems to be a lot of advertising and tracklisting in excess of the amount of shows and bedroom DJs now getting themselves noticed via ETN network etc.

I can speak for one of the shows which i am directly involved, and know the DJ personally, his method to this madness is to play from vinyl and 'permission accepted' cd-r from our producing friends, and a few well-known artists.
That doesnt mean to say he is playing exclusive tunes illegally, but that if he knows something good is in the pipeline, he isn't afraid to ask label managers & artists for their shizzle.

When people bitched about the amount of self-advertisement in the tracklisting section a sticky-topic was formed in the MD section to link up your webshows.
What is wrong with having a new section completely? For artist radioshow promotions?
Its arguably already there, but at present this isn't what Artist Promotion is used for is it.

I do sympathise with Typhoon's point though - when you open up the tracklisting section it should be easy to surf through in 10-15 minutes to a setlist from a well-known DJ - at present it just seems we have 1-2 posts like this each day, and about 20 new ETN shows cluttering up the section.

How do u change this situation without at least discriminating against new upcoming DJs (who have chosen to use ETN as a way to progress their career)?


Posted by Abhay on Oct-25-2005 13:48:

Re: Mp3 DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
So

Im browsing through the endless sea of shit that floods the Tlist forum and I notice that all these "radio shows" are full of pukes who play illegal mp3's, and im saying 90% of these etn/party 107 do this.

The thing you should understand is, no one gives a fuck about what you play in the first place, so playing shit that is "exlusive" doesnt really make you a better DJ.

Also it has come to my attention that half of these "DJs" cant even beatmatch, and use shit like traktor or whatever to mix their shit shows.


I really dont see the point in this


Discuss


hmm...

either i have no idea what i'm talking baout, or u don't know wat ur talking about.

I've talked to the manager of ETN about the same thing as u... and he says he doesn't allow Mp3 Djs to mix on ETN, I think it's vinyl only.

feel free to continue ur rant.


Posted by Abhay on Oct-25-2005 13:58:

Re: Mp3 DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
So

Im browsing through the endless sea of shit that floods the Tlist forum and I notice that all these "radio shows" are full of pukes who play illegal mp3's, and im saying 90% of these etn/party 107 do this.

The thing you should understand is, no one gives a fuck about what you play in the first place, so playing shit that is "exlusive" doesnt really make you a better DJ.

Also it has come to my attention that half of these "DJs" cant even beatmatch, and use shit like traktor or whatever to mix their shit shows.


I really dont see the point in this


Discuss


hmm...

either i have no idea what i'm talking baout, or u don't know wat ur talking about.

I've talked to the manager of ETN about the same thing as u... and he says he doesn't allow Mp3 Djs to mix on ETN, I think it's vinyl only.

feel free to continue ur rant.


Posted by PlasticSoul on Oct-25-2005 15:23:

Re: Mp3 DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
So

Im browsing through the endless sea of shit that floods the Tlist forum and I notice that all these "radio shows" are full of pukes who play illegal mp3's, and im saying 90% of these etn/party 107 do this.

The thing you should understand is, no one gives a fuck about what you play in the first place, so playing shit that is "exlusive" doesnt really make you a better DJ.

Also it has come to my attention that half of these "DJs" cant even beatmatch, and use shit like traktor or whatever to mix their shit shows.


I really dont see the point in this


Discuss


- So smartass... tell me, what djs in etn.fm cant beatmatch? type the entire names to defend your post.
- What s the problem using traktor? There are good profissional djs using it nowadays... till PVD...


And so... are you saying artists that spins in etnfm like these:
danjo e styles
cor fijneman
gabriel e dresden
graham gold
joop
kyau e albert
mark norman
niklas harding
and other listed here: http://www.etn.fm/residentdjs.asp
play illegal mp3s????

nonsense thread...


Posted by Rockabye on Oct-25-2005 20:35:

Re: Re: Mp3 DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
- So smartass... tell me, what djs in etn.fm cant beatmatch? type the entire names to defend your post.
- What s the problem using traktor? There are good profissional djs using it nowadays... till PVD...



Paul never used Traktor. He used Final Scratch some time but that's not like bedroom djs using Traktor for their mixes.

Today he mixes with Ableton, where he obviously has no need to beat-match too now


I don't think that there are many MP3 DJs on etn or other stations.

And even if it's not allowed to make radio shows with Traktor or something, how wants ETN to control this???


Posted by Tayfoon on Oct-25-2005 22:37:

Re: Re: Mp3 DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
hmm...

either i have no idea what i'm talking baout, or u don't know wat ur talking about.

I've talked to the manager of ETN about the same thing as u... and he says he doesn't allow Mp3 Djs to mix on ETN, I think it's vinyl only.

feel free to continue ur rant.



Bullshit

I can name names about "DJ's" who dont even have tables and have a show on ETN

Plastic

No real dj uses Traktor , nuff said


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-25-2005 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
Difference between white labels, is DJ's either bought them, or are allowed to play them

No one wants mp3 kiddies to play new unreleased shit on their "radio show", doesnt exactly help the release



er, i thought most white labels were white labels because they cannot get the proper rights to parts of it. SO say they used a beatles sample and couldn't clear it. They press it and distribute it, then record stores sell em usually profitting.

thats my understanding of them, im sure it doesn't apply to all cases, but it does apply to some if not most. This is the same exact thing except with mp3's no one gets a profit margin.


Posted by Tayfoon on Oct-25-2005 22:52:

White label is something that didnt quite get a full release, for various reasons


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-25-2005 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon
White label is something that didnt quite get a full release, for various reasons



...one of those issues being copyrights....


Posted by Rockabye on Oct-25-2005 23:03:

Re: Re: Re: Mp3 DJ's

quote:
Originally posted by Tayfoon

No real dj uses Traktor , nuff said



Each person who is able to make good transitions and a crowd go wild is a dj


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