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Posted by cttkba on Oct-25-2005 18:37:

Hello! 192kbps / VBR

hi guys
i have a question
what's the best bitrate? 192kbps or VRB because right here i read this:

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::| As time goes by, the world matures. PsyCZ has matured and the scene has |::
::| matured. PsyCZ started releasing in VBR over two years ago, and was met |::
::| with skepticism. As time went by, more and more realised that VBR is |::
::| superiour to cbr 192. Finally, in 2004, VBR is allowed by the scene. |::
::| PsyCZ will also in 2004 continue to bring you the finest psychedelic |::
::| trance music from around the world, as we have since 2001.


VBR best quality that 192kbps??


Posted by skip on Oct-25-2005 18:53:

320kbps for the win!




Posted by UWM on Oct-25-2005 18:57:

Please delete, thanks.


Posted by digitul punk on Oct-25-2005 19:15:

Yes 192 kbps VBR is better than 192 kbps CBR .. NOW delete this thread.kthxbye.


Posted by slinkyhead on Oct-25-2005 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Please delete, thanks.


why?


Posted by digitul punk on Oct-25-2005 19:25:

Maybe because this thread doesn't make any sense or this thread is useless or maybe because the thread starter got his answer?


Posted by Azz3D on Oct-25-2005 19:32:

this is stupid
this has nothing to do with filesharing
he just wants to know which is better
just cause you saw a release group name doesn't mean it can't be discussed...
i know it's looked down upon, but is TA turning into nazi germany?
if you see a huge wad of cash in my pocket does it mean i robbed a bank?


Posted by allcentury18 on Oct-25-2005 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by digitul punk
Yes 192 kbps VBR is better than 192 kbps CBR .. NOW delete this thread.kthxbye.


no its not... the whole point of a VBR is to keep quality when needed but retain similar size as a CBR of lesser quality


Posted by NicholasR on Oct-25-2005 20:27:

Personally i dont think theres much of a difference in the quality. you have to be one picky mofo to complain about the quality at that rate. anything above 128 is fine to me


Posted by Spirit5 on Oct-25-2005 21:06:

Yeah, if you look at most digital download sites on the net, they feature mostly 320/192 kbps CBR MP3s. The only site I know of that has the option for 192 kbps VBR MP4's is BeatPort, and i've listened to both and there is not a big difference really in sound quality. If there was a big difference, it would cost more, and really the only ones that they could feature that would be better are WAV or Flac files, and I guess Oog, Real Audio or WMA files sound slightly better. But really even those don't have that big of a difference. BeatPort is also the only site I know that offers WAVs, but it costs extra and you can't download them yet.


Posted by Soeder on Oct-25-2005 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by NicholasR
Personally i dont think theres much of a difference in the quality. you have to be one picky mofo to complain about the quality at that rate. anything above 128 is fine to me

Maybe on your lap-top speakers or walkman, but on a real stereo the difference appear!


Posted by NicholasR on Oct-25-2005 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Soeder
Maybe on your lap-top speakers or walkman, but on a real stereo the difference appear!


HaAH, Man. Im talking about on my Yamaha RX-V1200 with Infinity's. Trust me, I know what sound good and what doesnt. but when ur talking about anything above 160kbps it doesn't make much of a difference. unless we get into analog...



And yes, i get some bangin quality with this biatch.


Posted by Clovis on Oct-25-2005 23:56:

I dont want it if its not vbr or 320.


Posted by cttkba on Oct-26-2005 02:14:

UWM, please if you don't contribute, shut up, thanks!

thanks for the answers, i was wondering to know


Posted by Aquarian on Oct-26-2005 02:16:

Most people can't tell the difference above 128, and fewer still above 192. 192 is as low as I'll go, but anything above that is just bonus to me. If every DJ in the world started playing everything in 192kbps mp3s, I don't think anyone would care except for an insignificantly tiny ammount of hardcore audiophiles.


Posted by Liquid Fusion on Oct-26-2005 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by NicholasR
Personally i dont think theres much of a difference in the quality. you have to be one picky mofo to complain about the quality at that rate. anything above 128 is fine to me


Im one picky mofo then cause i only download 192 and 320 and if i cant then i lower myself down to 128...any thing lower and i think ill buy it


Posted by meneedit on Oct-26-2005 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
320kbps for the win!






+1


Posted by NicholasR on Oct-26-2005 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by meneedit
+1


-1 I want 24kbps!!! now we r talking


Posted by allcentury18 on Oct-26-2005 04:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
If there was a big difference, it would cost more, and really the only ones that they could feature that would be better are WAV or Flac files, and I guess Oog, Real Audio or WMA files sound slightly better. But really even those don't have that big of a difference. BeatPort is also the only site I know that offers WAVs, but it costs extra and you can't download them yet.


THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF VBR'S. less bandwidth SAME HIGH QUALITY. do ya's get it?


Posted by sigmanova on Oct-26-2005 05:19:

bottome line: VBR > CBR (for mp3) by many leaps and bounds. anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what he or she is talking about.


Posted by R!CH on Oct-26-2005 06:25:

It depends on what the VBR range is, and how old the encoder is...


Posted by 303 on Oct-26-2005 08:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
[...] If every DJ in the world started playing everything in 192kbps mp3s, I don't think anyone would care except for an insignificantly tiny ammount of hardcore audiophiles.


allow me to laugh. you just made a fool out of yourself.


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Oct-26-2005 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by cttkba
UWM, please if you don't contribute, shut up, thanks!

thanks for the answers, i was wondering to know


now thats not too clever telling a moderator of these forums to shut up.

if you wish to discuss VBR over CBR please do so but without involving this site with release groups or the downloading of illegal mp3 files

this thread is closed



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