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Dealer who left GHB victim to die jailed

Taken from Nine MSN

Thursday Nov 3 08:56 AEST

The dealer who supplied the drugs which killed Victoria's first victim of party drug gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB) has been sentenced to three months' jail.

Abraham Welly Wong, 28, of Prahran, has pleaded guilty in the Melbourne Magistrates Court to eight charges including trafficking, possessing and using drugs and administering a drug of dependence to another person.

Magistrate Paresa Spanos sentenced Wong to three months' jail for trafficking and two months for possession, to be served concurrently.

He immediately lodged an appeal against the sentence and was bailed to appear in the County Court on March 1 next year.

Twenty-one-year-old nurse Belinda Davey was celebrating a friend's 21st birthday at the Pure Hard Dance nightclub in a laneway off Russell Street in Melbourne last February 19.

She was found dead in Wong's car after drinking liquid GHB, also known by the street name Grievous Bodily Harm, believing it was water.

Instead of calling an ambulance, Wong rubbed amphetamines into her gums, mistakenly believing it would be an antidote for the GHB.


Three months doesn't seem like that long to me. What do you guys think?

Sure the dealer has some fault, but i still think it's the victims who are stupid enough to buy drugs in the first place are at fault more.

Maybe if he was actually caught selling her the drug, then thats a different story despite him pleading guilty.

ahh who knows.

sad sad story.

You would think a nurse would know better :/

it just seems with g there seems to be so much wrong/innaccurate information tho'-

like i just dont get why ghb is known as greivous bodily harm...it does not make sense.

wasnt there that pom guy who ripped out his mrs teeth cos after a few months of full on g use he thought his wife was possesed by a witch and pulling her teeth out was the only way to get rid of it?

and then there is 1-4B which is like fake g- and thats the one that acutally is the killer? or something -

i dunno...wouldnt amphs be an antidote (to a degree) for a g overdose?
cos doesnt g slow down your heart/body while speeding up ur metabolism?

i find the whole g thing very fuzzy.
there needs to be more proper info on it - rather than just "its bad mmmkay" and "G heads go home"
i find that one funny tho.

considerign what would happen if mr wong was caught doign the same shit back home, yeh i think 3months is bullshit!!



note- mr wong may well have been born in australia, it was a joking reference to the rules being a bit too harsh in bali/singapore etc and a bit too leniant here in australia..

Our sentencing is oriented towards rehabilitation whereas theirs is just punitive. I remember reading in an earlier news story the dealer had done some things and made some changes which helped him when he was being sentenced ie turning to religion yada yada.

I think though a sentence of that time length and also being granted bail is very light when if it were not for his inaction then she would probably be alive.

um yea
I've posted before what my best friend was caught with when he was dealing and he got off. I have no tolerance for drug dealers as i see it he maybe didnt force her to drink out of the bottle, but he sure as hell didnt try and get help when he knew she was dead/dying. So he is partly responsible.

3 months pfft! Soft.

At least he's got a criminal record now (if he didn't before) so that'll fuck up his life permanently.

I agree that there is not enough information. I would have no idea what to if someone "blew out".

Making the users outcasts is certainly not the answer but yeah...just dont do it! mmmkay

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Originally posted by charlee I agree that there is not enough information. I would have no idea what to if someone "blew out".

dial 000 perhaps?

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Originally posted by narcism dial 000 perhaps?

Well of course

What I really meant was I dont have much of an understanding as to how and why they occur?

I think if someone's on drugs they run the risk of overdosing and dying. Much like when you drive a car you run the risk of having an accident. Why put the blame on others? No one forces anyone to do drugs.

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Originally posted by DaveBegic I think if someone's on drugs they run the risk of overdosing and dying. Much like when you drive a car you run the risk of having an accident. Why put the blame on others? No one forces anyone to do drugs.

*jumps on soapbox*

your right dave.. this seems to be yet another case of where people dont want to take responsibility for their own actions. it is not the governments responsibility or whatever to teach you what needs to be done in an emergency, or why they occur. this should be found out by people who are doing it if they care enough to do so. Enough ads are/were put on tv to open peoples eyes to the pitfuls of doing drugs and how you dont know where they come from etc etc etc.

if you do drugs, you may die from doing so... simple!!!

Agreed Dave...


BUT

When a guy can see the girl struggling and is dire need of medical attention, and tries to feed her speed to cancel the affects of the GHB this is criminal, irrespobsible and stupid. For that mere fact alone he should of been punished and punished hard. He had the girls life in his hands, and he chose not to help by ringing 000 but instead feed her more drugs, and to see the gimp smiling when leaving court makes me want to knock his teeth out.

^^

Ok true but in that point in time when the girl is dying. I don't think the guy would have a clear mind to begin with, he is probably panicking and not knowing what to do.

He is probably afraid that if he does call 000 then somehow they will find out he did help her in the last minute but it was him who caused the girl to be in that state, rather he tries to get out.

Like those hit and run people, if they stay back then they will definetly get charged but with much more minimal sentence to if they got caught. So they run away hoping they don't get charged, same thing.

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Originally posted by Psygnosis Ok true but in that point in time when the girl is dying. I don't think the guy would have a clear mind to begin with, he is probably panicking and not knowing what to do. He is probably afraid that if he does call 000 then somehow they will find out he did help her in the last minute but it was him who caused the girl to be in that state, rather he tries to get out.

Sorry, but there is no excuse for that. You have someone in trouble, you call 000 and get an ambulance, simple. Even if you're not aware that the ambo's generally don't report these things to the police (they're more concerned with people's welfare than crimes) there is still no excuse at all for not trying to get help. Basically in thinking selfishly about himself, rather than someone who's life was in his hands, she has died.

It's people not caring about eachother in the scene that gives it a bad name.

We will never know what really happened and what was going through his mind

It's so important to be with people that have "got your back".

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i dunno...wouldnt amphs be an antidote (to a degree) for a g overdose? cos doesnt g slow down your heart/body while speeding up ur metabolism?

no this is not the case at all. giving someone amphetamines to counteract g is a very bad thing to do because it speeds up the g overdose and brings it on more quickly. this for me is a case of drug dealers thinking that they are chemists/experts in what they are selling and they know the chemicals and how to counteract them.

that sentence is a travesty, saying that it is the persons fault for taking the drug in the first place is ridiculous. sure they chose to take it, but that does not mean they deserve to die because of it. this person had a responsibility to someone that was clearly in need of medical attention to provide it, yet instead of doing the right thing he decided to become an overnight doctor and prescribe his own treatment. which most likely cost the young woman her life, there is a high possibility that if he had not given her that speed that she would be alive today especially if he had called an ambulance. therefore he was directly responsible in her death and to be given a three month sentence is a disgrace.

my understanding is that she didn't choose to take it. she's just bought other things off him and thought she was taking a swig out of a water bottle...

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It's so important to be with people that have "got your back".

i agree that it is always good to be with people that you know and trust, but surely there should be some common ground that if you see someone that is clearly in trouble you ask if they are okay and help them if necessary instead of turning a blind eye.

that was the first thing that i was taught by those who introduced me to the scene. look after eachother...

And look how you turned out

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that was the first thing that i was taught by those who introduced me to the scene. look after eachother...

amen

Nope. It's dickheads running around taking drugs and overdosing that gives the scene a bad name.

I've never read a news report saying "World in danger, friends aren't caring for each other at clubs". Instead I read headlines like "Youth OD'd at RAVE", and "Got some Pills brother?!"

You can deny that all you want, but the bottom line is that drugs are illegal substances, and they are heavily used at dance parties. Not much you can do about it man.

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Originally posted by Dean Millson It's people not caring about eachother in the scene that gives it a bad name.

Agree to disagree?

how can u be disagreeing on that

what dave is saying is, fact!!

that whole plur b.s about help friends out by watching out for them is rubbish.. its just common sense.. the way to watch out for each other is to not take drugs in the first place

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