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Posted by simms327 on Nov-04-2005 00:30:

Confused conspiracy - what do you think

Conspiracy or not?

questions as to wether or not a PLANE flew into the pentagon

see for yourself!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~sperna/omgkool.swf

what does the TA community think?


Posted by 4-play on Nov-04-2005 00:45:

Repost!


Posted by slingshot on Nov-04-2005 00:47:

seen this before....given all of the evidence brought forth....its kind of tough to believe that a plane actually hit the pentagon...


Posted by solgrabber on Nov-04-2005 00:53:

if a plane crashed into the pentagon where are the pieces? more importantly where are the pieces of the trade towers after the collapse? burned away in china so no one could research what really happened to make them fall. each tower could withstand at least 2 plane crashes without falling and i think they could have handled much more as well. sad that so many believe what cnn and the "official" press stories say.


Posted by Mag1k on Nov-04-2005 00:56:

Who cares. We will never know the truth, US is based on lies and deception. If you think this is the first or the last case of the American government deceiving their people, you deserve a slap.


Posted by TheVrk on Nov-04-2005 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Mag1k
Who cares. We will never know the truth, US is based on lies and deception. If you think this is the first or the last case of the American government deceiving their people, you deserve a slap.


PERFECTLY said.
I couldn't possibly agree more.


Posted by tatgirl on Nov-04-2005 00:59:

Um, whatever. A good family friend was supposed to be right where the plane hit, had the meeting not been postponed. She was in a building nearby, and heard the plane fly right over their building b4 it crashed.

End of discussion.


Posted by solgrabber on Nov-04-2005 01:00:

who said i believed it was the first or the last? futhermore more people should care especially those who realize it and do nothing, they deserve a slap.


Posted by AdReNaLiNa on Nov-04-2005 01:27:

you can't handle the truth!





Posted by neuromancer on Dec-06-2005 22:05:

Invisible Grin Pentagon Strike

Found this while browsing the internet, thought you guys may find it interesting.

Pentagon Strike


Posted by Tygon on Dec-06-2005 22:14:

Pretty old... but a very interesting conspiracy theory.

Love the animation and music...


Posted by ghetto_fab on Dec-06-2005 23:27:

hmmmm definatly something to think about....


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Dec-07-2005 00:31:

I believe it's all a crock of shit.

Oh, look, Popular Mechanics and 70 professionals seem to agree:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/sci...se/1227842.html

The only people who still push for this conspiracy crap are the ultra-genius Internet nobodies who seem to think they know everything better than everybody else, and keep using words like "appears", "seems to be", couldn't have been" (which are very factual, solid, pieces of argument, of course ).


Posted by cyper on Dec-07-2005 00:55:

Those who like to believe everything that the government says is true are idiots.

Stop listening to what "professionals" say and use some common fucking sense!
The only reason these people agree with what the government says about the events of 9/11 is because they HAVE TOO!!

The people who like to believe there is NO conspiracy can go join the rest of the human population thats being lied too & pretend that everything is OK in the world.. just like Fox News says.

Somebody once said, "By denying that evil exists, you are protecting that evil from ever being destroyed"

The evil in this case: The US Government.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Dec-07-2005 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by cyper
Those who like to believe everything that the government says is true are idiots.

Stop listening to what "professionals" say and use some common fucking sense!
The only reason these people agree with what the government says about the events of 9/11 is because they HAVE TOO!!

The people who like to believe there is NO conspiracy can go join the rest of the human population thats being lied too & pretend that everything is OK in the world.. just like Fox News says.

Somebody once said, "By denying that evil exists, you are protecting that evil from ever being destroyed"

The evil in this case: The US Government.


They have figures. And proof. You have accusations. I don't believe everything the government says. But I don't believe everything Internet loonies say either. And I'm much more likely to trust a chief engineer than some honky on a forum.


Posted by solgrabber on Dec-07-2005 01:36:

quote:
They have figures. And proof. You have accusations. I don't believe everything the government says. But I don't believe everything Internet loonies say either. And I'm much more likely to trust a chief engineer than some honky on a forum.



there are a lot more then some "honky's" who believe that what happened had nothing to do with a bunch of guys with razor blades did to the worlds most powerful country on that very sad day.

if you read and research before believing what some "cheif engineer" has to say about the incidents maybe you would have a different view on things. do you believe everything you see and hear on tv? i have not met one engineer who believes that the towers were brought down by those planes, they were simply built to withstand a lot more than that period. the fact that the remains of the towers were shipped off and destroyed leaves and big question mark of the sloppy work the us government left for all to see.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-07-2005 01:40:

LOL, the conspiracy theorists are always quick to tell you to "do some research" and yet they never seem to have any information that would suggest research of their own - just second-hand ramblings taken from other quacks.


Posted by cyper on Dec-07-2005 01:40:

quote:
Originally posted by solgrabber
there are a lot more then some "honky's" who believe that what happened had nothing to do with a bunch of guys with razor blades did to the worlds most powerful country on that very sad day.

if you read and research before believing what some "cheif engineer" has to say about the incidents maybe you would have a different view on things. do you believe everything you see and hear on tv? i have not met one engineer who believes that the towers were brought down by those planes, they were simply built to withstand a lot more than that period. the fact that the remains of the towers were shipped off and destroyed leaves and big question mark of the sloppy work the us government left for all to see.


Exactly. There is tons of very odd things that followed after the events of 9/11.

The actually spent more money on investigating the NASA shuttle destruction a while back then on 9/11.


Posted by cyper on Dec-07-2005 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
LOL, the conspiracy theorists are always quick to tell you to "do some research" and yet they never seem to have any information that would suggest research of their own - just second-hand ramblings taken from other quacks.


Im just trying to figure out why it is that you choose to ignore all the very suspicious behavior on the part of the US government before/during/& after the events of 9/11?

What about the Weapons of mass destruction bullshit?


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-07-2005 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by cyper
The actually spent more money on investigating the NASA shuttle destruction a while back then on 9/11.

Duh... Osama Bin Laden went on national TV to tell us that he orchestrated the whole thing. I think it takes just a tad longer to disassemble a trillion-dollar piece of machinery and find out what part malfunctioned and why.

Give me a break guys... before 9/11 nobody believed that this kind of attack was even possible. Osama could have called GWB in his office and told him that he was going to fly planes into the twin towers and I'm pretty sure Georgie would have thought it was Dick playing a prank. If someone had told you on 9/10 that dirt-poor Afghanis were going to hijack several commercial airliners and crash them into major American landmarks, I think your reaction would probably have been to tell them to lay off the crack pipe. I'm sure that would have been my reaction.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-07-2005 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by cyper
What about the Weapons of mass destruction bullshit?

What about it? What is your implication - that the U.S. and over 30 other nations were all playing a trick, and yet no one in this grand conspiracy had the foresight to plant a few vials of anthrax, strap some rockets to camels, snap some pictures and send them home?

Honestly, are you that daft?


Posted by solgrabber on Dec-07-2005 02:02:

quote:
Give me a break guys... before 9/11 nobody believed that this kind of attack was even possible. Osama could have called GWB in his office and told him that he was going to fly planes into the twin towers and I'm pretty sure Georgie would have thought it was Dick playing a prank. If someone had told you on 9/10 that dirt-poor Afghanis were going to hijack several commercial airliners and crash them into major American landmarks, I think your reaction would probably have been to tell them to lay off the crack pipe. I'm sure that would have been my reaction.


people have been warned for a very long time that something like this would happen. no one believed it because if it did happen it should have not been so overwhelming and the worlds most powerful country would easily taken out a few of the planes. ask yourself this question, who stood to gain from all that transpired on 9/11? the answer is who is guilty.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-07-2005 02:05:

quote:
Originally posted by solgrabber
who stood to gain from all that transpired on 9/11?

Terrorism is rarely based on what one stands to gain, except in the area of intimidation, which is why it's almost invariably committed on innocent people. And in the area of intimidation, I'd say the terrorists gained quite a bit - the USA may not have sat idly by, but most of Europe is terrified of angering the "Arab street".


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-07-2005 02:11:

911 was the biggest hoax by the American governemnt.We will be learning more and more on this in the years ahead.


Posted by solgrabber on Dec-07-2005 02:14:

quote:
Terrorism is rarely based on what one stands to gain, except in the area of intimidation, which is why it's almost invariably committed on innocent people. And in the area of intimidation, I'd say the terrorists gained quite a bit - the USA may not have sat idly by, but most of Europe is terrified of angering the "Arab street".


most people outside the US realize the facts about what happened and are not worried about some dudes wrapped in blankets armed with razor blades. they choose to live their lives while CNN continues to sell you on the terrorist crap to gain power by creating fear to their own people. you did not answer my question, who stood to gain?


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