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Posted by hitokiri on Nov-04-2005 02:02:

Dunno Interested in getting a laptop

i wanna get one solely for djing im goin to use serato (cause vinyls are too damn $$$) so... im wondering if anyone has some good recommendations specs wise and brand

im looking to spend under $1000

much appreciated

jay


Posted by F�anor on Nov-04-2005 03:21:

I bought my second turntable and Serato today. That stuff is AWESOME!!!

Man, you can DJ with ONLY ONE turntable!!! unless you want to play records. For your laptop, you don't need top portable.. as long as the specifications of Serato are under your laptop's, you're ok. And if you want to dj at friends or say weddings, you might consider buying an internal hardrive with ide to usb adapter so you can use it externally.

Don't forget, you can DJ with only one turntable is you plan on only mixing digital stuff. But be sure to read everything about it to be sure.

Serato = ownz

EDIT : I have a IBM thinkpad. I accidentaly dropped it from my desk.. it's still working fine. They are strong.. but any brand can do the trick if you really take care of it.


Posted by TranceSpeeder on Nov-04-2005 03:25:

do u want mac or pc?

u can get nice pc based notebooks here...

http://ynot2k.com/products/laptops/LAPTOPS.htm

ASUS is nice, not that over-priced crap u get at the store with all those crappy specs. but, r u gonna use it in a club? if so, dont they all use macs? or maybe that whole mac thing with it being more stable is bs? im not sure i never used a mac.


Posted by Nic on Nov-04-2005 03:33:

i'd get a powerbook, if you can wait 6 months or so do that, the powerbooks will be changed to intel processors and youll get better performance


Posted by hitokiri on Nov-04-2005 16:28:

well id like to use a mac cause the sound quality is usually better but... funds will steer me toward a pc but hopefully under 1000 usd

plus i have 2 tts anyway


Posted by F�anor on Nov-04-2005 17:47:

You can always buy an external soundcard... but with SSL or FS using usb bus, I wouldn't count too much on that.

EDIT : Damn, I'm soo stupid... you don't need a soundcard for SSL or FS =)


Posted by alefort on Nov-05-2005 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by F�anor
You can always buy an external soundcard... but with SSL or FS using usb bus, I wouldn't count too much on that.

EDIT : Damn, I'm soo stupid... you don't need a soundcard for SSL or FS =)


FS2 actually uses Firewire, which is supported by MACs and PCs alike. Just an fyi...


Posted by F�anor on Nov-05-2005 05:16:

Thanks for correcting me.


Posted by Vero on Nov-05-2005 07:49:

quote:
Originally posted by hitokiri
well id like to use a mac cause the sound quality is usually better but... funds will steer me toward a pc but hopefully under 1000 usd

plus i have 2 tts anyway


actually, they just revamped the powerbooks with higher res screens and better vid cards and dropped the prices on them.

the intel macs wont be out till '07 at the earliest.

but the powerbook is def the way to go. my powerbook was the first mac i ever bought and ill never go back


Posted by Nic on Nov-05-2005 08:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
actually, they just revamped the powerbooks with higher res screens and better vid cards and dropped the prices on them.

the intel macs wont be out till '07 at the earliest.

but the powerbook is def the way to go. my powerbook was the first mac i ever bought and ill never go back


07!!!!???????

intel powerbooks/ibooks are rumored to come out in around 6 months
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1359


Posted by Zild on Nov-05-2005 08:17:

Yeah everything I've read says they will only have one more update, if that, to the powerbooks before they switch to mactels.


Posted by Nic on Nov-05-2005 08:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Yeah everything I've read says they will only have one more update, if that, to the powerbooks before they switch to mactels.

they just had (what i assume will be) their last update 2 weeks ago


Posted by Zild on Nov-05-2005 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Nic
they just had (what i assume will be) their last update 2 weeks ago


Yeah then the mactels are next!


Posted by sym on Nov-05-2005 19:28:

Re: Interested in getting a laptop

quote:
Originally posted by hitokiri
i wanna get one solely for djing im goin to use serato (cause vinyls are too damn $$$) so... im wondering if anyone has some good recommendations specs wise and brand

im looking to spend under $1000

much appreciated

jay


whatever you get, i recommend a gig of ram for serato. makes it run nice and smooothhh.


Posted by sym on Nov-05-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Vero
actually, they just revamped the powerbooks with higher res screens and better vid cards and dropped the prices on them.

the intel macs wont be out till '07 at the earliest.

but the powerbook is def the way to go. my powerbook was the first mac i ever bought and ill never go back


same never owned a mac until i got my 12" powerbook. only laptop i'll ever want that's for sure


Posted by echosystm on Nov-06-2005 01:18:

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet....

When ur looking at using a laptop for audio use, it is EXTREMELY important that you get a good brand. Why? LAPTOPS MAKE (ground?) NOISE when plugged into the AC. And lets face it, if your CPU is running hard ur not gonna want to run off battery alone lol. It's something to do with all the components using a common ground and how the power comes through the distributor or something. I'm not all that technical, but I know it is an issue. You get a slight hum come through, and when you move the mouse etc. you'll hear little scratchy noises

The reason alot of DJs use macs is cause they dont generate any of this noise. Apple have actually seen this as a problem and have put in ground loop isolators and shit. Lets face it, most computer manufacturers arent sound technicians :P

Dell are terrible, google will tell u that straight away. Toshiba is just about the best you can get in a PC laptop. Although I love ASUS, w5's are sexual, i'm pretty sure they have been known to have alot of problems too. Acer is also shit, but i wouldnt touch acer anyways :P

Most generic brand BTO/Barebones type laptops will suffer from this problem really bady. Although, I bought a Clevo M540G base unit and built it up, doesnt seem to have any noise at all through my firewire box. Maybe look into one of those if you like, that way you can customise the hard drive (7,200rpm instead of that 4,200rpm bs), more ram, faster cpu, etc.

There are ways around this problem if you get it, but theyre pretty dodgy. Like, removing the earth pin from your powersupply (lol). You can also ground your computer to something else, or ground the soundcard to your computer chasis blah blah blah but thats all very inconvienient.

You'll have this problem regardless of the type of interface you're using too, be it PCMCIA, firewire, or usb. Although PC cards and firewire seem to be much less of a problem than USB (perhaps the bus power on the usb doesnt do some filtering that the others do?)


Posted by punjabi on Nov-06-2005 01:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Vero

but the powerbook is def the way to go. my powerbook was the first mac i ever bought and ill never go back


Posted by jamiepollock643 on Nov-06-2005 02:04:

Hey, im thinking of getting a mac aswell, altho i dunno if i shud get the 12" or the 15" for djing?? Anyone any advice?? Would the 12" do me fine?? Or wud the 15" be the better option. Id greatly appreciate any info....


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-06-2005 07:00:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm


You'll have this problem regardless of the type of interface you're using too, be it PCMCIA, firewire, or usb. Although PC cards and firewire seem to be much less of a problem than USB (perhaps the bus power on the usb doesnt do some filtering that the others do?)



No because its external, and i know fs2 is externally powered, and i would imagine serato is as well.


Posted by F�anor on Nov-06-2005 13:55:

Re: Re: Interested in getting a laptop

quote:
Originally posted by sym
whatever you get, i recommend a gig of ram for serato. makes it run nice and smooothhh.


Believe it or not, Serato works fine on 256mo of ram.

BTW, the software uses USB. Everything is digital therefore I doubt there is noise like analog signal.


Posted by Nic on Nov-06-2005 14:25:

Re: Re: Re: Interested in getting a laptop

quote:
Originally posted by F�anor
Believe it or not, Serato works fine on 256mo of ram.

BTW, the software uses USB. Everything is digital therefore I doubt there is noise like analog signal.


just because its digital dosent mean there wont be ground loops, however one would hope that serato is well enough designed to combat such a problem


Posted by punjabi on Nov-06-2005 18:04:

quote:
Originally posted by jamiepollock643
Hey, im thinking of getting a mac aswell, altho i dunno if i shud get the 12" or the 15" for djing?? Anyone any advice?? Would the 12" do me fine?? Or wud the 15" be the better option. Id greatly appreciate any info....


for DJing a 12" would be fine, but you would probably want to buy some more RAM from a 3rd party (cheaper than apple's upgrades). i have a 15" and i added 1 gb to get it up to 1.5 gb. now my powerbook runs like a dream.

then again, if you're willing to wait and save up a few hundred more dollars, the 15" is faster, has a considerably bigger display (obviously), has a bigger hard drive, and most importantly...the keyboard lights up.

in summary: i'd save up and get the 15". it's totally worth it.


Posted by discobiscuit on Nov-06-2005 19:42:

you dont want a mac, they are redoing their systems soon ~ if u want a mac, wait a year or so...


Posted by discobiscuit on Nov-06-2005 19:49:

ps. its called the "intel mac" if you wanna do some searching around. wait for the intel mac to come out if your getting a mac

bisco


Posted by discobiscuit on Nov-06-2005 19:51:

"It's official...
Apple has publicly announced that the Macintosh will soon be powered by Intel processors.

At the WWDC 2005 keynote, Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced that the company is beginning a two-year transition of the entire Macintosh line from the PowerPC to Intel processors. For the past five years, Apple has maintained a secret, in-house Intel build of every release of Mac OS X as a "safety net" in the event that the PowerPC became a liability. According to Jobs, that is the current situation. Citing Intel's "exceptional road-map," increased performance, and reduced power consumption (cooler chips), Jobs explained, "we want to make the best computers for our customers," and that moving to Intel is how Apple will get that done."

from maconintel.com

cheers
bisco

sorry for the repetitive posts, but this is an important issue...


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