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trance categories??????

i have a question which im dealling with for about.... i dont know years
i keep trying to tell the diffrence between the genres but i cant say that i know exacly how to differ one from the other so..what is and whats the diffrence between:
euro trance
epic trance
proggresive trance
clubtrance

and how would you categorize:
paul van dyk, armin van buuren, ferry corsten, mark schultz, tiesto, paul oakenfold, carl cox, atb, roger sanchez, blank& jones, cosmic gate
thanks
btw hi every one im new: doron, 23 from israel
favorite artist: armin and ferry

www.di.fm/edmguide

take it a grain of salt, as the author is sarcastic
good for beginners though

Re: trance categories??????

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Originally posted by dbartov euro trance epic trance proggresive trance clubtrance

Euro trance is any trance from Europe. Epic trance is trance with melody and big breakdowns. Progressive trance is less dramatic than epic, and more focused on a "journey" if such a clich� can be usefully used. In other words, it moves across an idea, rather than building up to something then fading out. There's no such thing as club trance/

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paul van dyk, armin van buuren, ferry corsten, mark schultz, tiesto, paul oakenfold, carl cox, atb, roger sanchez, blank& jones, cosmic gate

Trance, trance, trance, prog trance, trance, God only knows these days, techno and whatever, pop, house, trance, hard trance.

Oh, and stop caring about categories.

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less dramatic than epic, and more focused on a "journey" if such a clich� can be usefully used. In other words, it moves across an idea, rather than building up to something then fading out.

woo hoo, thanks for defining like 50 genres of music i know.

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Originally posted by Staedtler woo hoo, thanks for defining like 50 genres of music i know.

Well fuck you too. I didn't name the genre. If it isn't looped and repetitive, if it isn't techy, if it isn't hard, if it isn't anthemic, epic, vocal, psy, goa, deep or dark then all that's left is something in the middle. That sound of halfway house to everything (which is what "progressive" means- prog house was coined by Mixmag to try and pigenhole Leftfield's genre-blending genius) which is a bit melodic, a bit anthemic, a bit deep and a bit repetitive. It's progressive trance.

whats proggry trance?? marco v - god..maybe?

No... Godd is a banger. I'm not even sure it's trance. It's probably NRG.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J (which is what "progressive" means- prog house was coined by Mixmag to try and pigenhole Leftfield's genre-blending genius)

some say mixmag, and some say genesis p-orridge. who knows the truth?

I always thought of progressive trance as epic trance turned down a notch, keeping a bit of those classic trance elements. That's why I love it so much. Breeder, old Solar Stone, old Quivver, old Tilt... pretty much anything Sasha & Digweed used to play, and a lot of Oakenfold's old playlists.

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Originally posted by tc-fan whats proggry trance?? marco v - god..maybe?

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Originally posted by Staedtler some say mixmag, and some say genesis p-orridge. who knows the truth?

I know it was Mixmag, because the journalist who coined it wrote about it in a biog for Leftfield. Leftfield are credited with inventing progressive house, and unless this journo who the duo paid to write about them lied about this, and Leftfield cleared his blurb even though it was lying, I trust his word.

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Oh, and stop caring about categories. [/QUOTE]

youre right bout that exept the fact that when you walk into a record shop you need to ask: "do you have ...."
i brought all this subject up cause the guy in the record shop told me that progressive trance is psy trance and he called ferry and the thrillseekers who i know as proggresive clubtrance (this genre though not really real is widely used to describe:what you here in clubs- ferry, armin... in israel)
btw it was tought being refered as a begginer, its just that all the definicions are real confusing and stuff
10x btw

Because he's talking bollocks to sound knowledgable.

i dont get the obsession here with genres and categories.

for me the only thing that matters about trance is that it is in rhythm terms, constant. its not trance in my humble opinion if it breaks and drops very often for example because it takes you out of that hypnotic rhythm. but beyond that...go nuts. everything else is marketing shit or is used to make finding tunes of a certain style in a record store easier.

progressive just means that the song builds to a point. is doesnt matter what that is but progressive songs dont go verse, chorus, verse, chorus. they build in layers. for that reason, a good majority of psytrance is necessarily progressive (not all of it though) since a typical psy tune tends to build up to a climactic point which happens towards the end of the track. theres a short breakdown and then it tails off quickly right at the end. its just a convention which you see alot of. examples: jaia - breathing ocean. space cat - beam me up. protoculture - silicon sunrise. cosma - cusanam. etc etc.

all songs have different shit to them.

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