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Posted by Jackson on Nov-08-2005 19:51:

Hunting/Fishing

Anyone here do hunting or fishing?
I used to go Trout fishing often, went Carp fishing in the summer which was good.
I go hunting sometimes too for Vermin.
Anyone ever do this?


Posted by Ygrene on Nov-08-2005 19:54:

I had to hunt for a matching black sock this morning. It sucked.

But seriously, I know this will sound like pure fagetry but, I could never kill an animal. That doesn't mean that I think hunting/fishing is bad, by any means. I'm just glad that there are other people out there who can and will do it, be cause I can't and I hate starving to death.


Posted by jonSun on Nov-08-2005 19:56:

I used to do alot of bass fishing by me. The only problem is I gotta drive 40-60 miles to find a good lake. Ive also done alot of Carp fishing, but only to beach em outta the local ponds that get taken over by em.


Posted by SID133 on Nov-08-2005 20:08:

i go hunting every now and again at my familys ranch in west texas


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Nov-08-2005 20:25:

I live in NYC now, so no hunting or fishing anymore, but when I was growing up in Pennsylvania, I used to do both quite a bit. Usually catch and release for bass and panfish in ponds, some trout fishing in streams.

As for hunting, deer, turkey, rabbits, groundhogs all summer, a little for pheasants, a few years hunting doves (they're sooo hard to hit and so tasty when grilled). I even went out for black bear a few years ago, but it was mostly to scout for the upcoming deer season.

In western PA, it's a pretty normal thing to do. My grandparents both own small family farms, so the animals (especially deer and groundhogs) do a lot of crop damage. My family's also into shooting and I used to do it competitively when I was younger and still try to make use of my dad's shooting range every time that I visit home.


Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-08-2005 20:49:

what's the point of hunting? what are you proving?


Posted by jonSun on Nov-08-2005 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
what's the point of hunting? what are you proving?



You gotta put food on your family.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Nov-08-2005 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
what's the point of hunting? what are you proving?

Does everything that you do have to be to prove something? I'm assuming that you feel that hunters are trying to prove their superiority to their prey, which isn't the case.

I used to hunt all the time because it was something that I enjoyed doing. I grew up in a rural area, so as I said before, it's common to be a hunter. I liked getting out into the woods and away from everything else that was going on in my life. I guess it's a way to retreat from society for a bit. When you're hunting, you pay a great amount of attention to detail, trying to notice for sign, watching for movement, etc., which can give a greater appreciation for the outdoors. It was also a good bonding experience between my father and I as it was one of the few times when I was a teenager that we weren't fighting over something.

People who grew up in cities for the most part don't get it because they pick up everything from the store. They also don't have to deal with the negative effects that many game animals have on humans (see my earlier comment about crop damage, look at the costs of deer-automobile accidents, both in dollars and human life, etc.). While some people have this idea that we should just let nature do as it pleases, I'd contend that hunting is more humane. A well placed bullet is a lot quicker than starving because of overpopulation (because they're competing with other animals as well as humans for food).

As for the food comment that followed, my family eats everything that we kill when we hunt. From a health standpoint, most of the things that you kill yourself are going to be quite a bit healthier than farm animals. As they aren't confined, the meat tends to be leaner (compare the fat content of venison to that of beef). They're also free of the chemicals and supplements that farmers put in their feed for cattle (or even farm-raised game animals like deer and turkeys). If you take a wild turkey and compare to a domestic, you'll notice that the meat is completely different. Wild turkeys have no white meat, it's all dark, which is more moisture rich.


Posted by UWM on Nov-08-2005 21:15:

I went on a fishing charter once, and now apparently I'm a redneck.


Posted by Jackson on Nov-08-2005 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
what's the point of hunting? what are you proving?


Your much more metro than i gave u credit for

The way i see it is, either you kill your food or someone else is gonna do it for you.
But either way i respect your view. I felt the same way before, then when i went hunting i saw the other side of the story...i guess our experiences mould who we are


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-08-2005 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
what's the point of hunting? what are you proving?


I will occasionally "hunt" coyoties/coy-dogs. My friends and I will do this as a favour to local sheep farmers.... they appreciate it as these preditors will regularly kill the lambs amongst their flocks.


Posted by Ygrene on Nov-08-2005 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I went on a fishing charter once, and now apparently I'm a redneck.



I think that photo was a chop anyways....


Posted by Floorfiller on Nov-08-2005 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Does everything that you do have to be to prove something? I'm assuming that you feel that hunters are trying to prove their superiority to their prey, which isn't the case.

I used to hunt all the time because it was something that I enjoyed doing. I grew up in a rural area, so as I said before, it's common to be a hunter. I liked getting out into the woods and away from everything else that was going on in my life. I guess it's a way to retreat from society for a bit. When you're hunting, you pay a great amount of attention to detail, trying to notice for sign, watching for movement, etc., which can give a greater appreciation for the outdoors. It was also a good bonding experience between my father and I as it was one of the few times when I was a teenager that we weren't fighting over something.

People who grew up in cities for the most part don't get it because they pick up everything from the store. They also don't have to deal with the negative effects that many game animals have on humans (see my earlier comment about crop damage, look at the costs of deer-automobile accidents, both in dollars and human life, etc.). While some people have this idea that we should just let nature do as it pleases, I'd contend that hunting is more humane. A well placed bullet is a lot quicker than starving because of overpopulation (because they're competing with other animals as well as humans for food).

As for the food comment that followed, my family eats everything that we kill when we hunt. From a health standpoint, most of the things that you kill yourself are going to be quite a bit healthier than farm animals. As they aren't confined, the meat tends to be leaner (compare the fat content of venison to that of beef). They're also free of the chemicals and supplements that farmers put in their feed for cattle (or even farm-raised game animals like deer and turkeys). If you take a wild turkey and compare to a domestic, you'll notice that the meat is completely different. Wild turkeys have no white meat, it's all dark, which is more moisture rich.


no that's cool...i guess i just never really saw the point of it.


Posted by stren on Nov-08-2005 22:16:

i'm a hunter - gatherer


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Nov-08-2005 22:17:

i beleive uwm should post his pic here


Posted by stren on Nov-08-2005 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i beleive uwm should post his pic here


that's exacly what i thought opening this thread, infact i thought he made it


Posted by colonelcrisp on Nov-08-2005 22:41:

i love fishing for bass, pickrell and trout. and i hunt as well
both moose and deer. game meat is far healthier than store bought food is. especially up where i go hunting, northern quebec, untamed wilderness, no preservatives, no genetically modified foods. the only hard part is getting tags...


Posted by smokeape on Nov-09-2005 02:26:

Re: Hunting/Fishing

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
Anyone here do hunting or fishing?
I used to go Trout fishing often, went Carp fishing in the summer which was good.
I go hunting sometimes too for Vermin.
Anyone ever do this?


Vermin means anything that moves. Done that. Fishing, well you gotta go with me out behind a hydroelectric plant in the middle of the night in winter generating power which means pushing water to catch striped bass running in the tailrace. That's cool in my book, but suicidal as well, so you can't be drunk (too much) and have to have some experience in running up behind the dam in the middle of the night as well. Payback's good with 15-20+ pound fish, which are another prob in itself in bringing them to the shore, but it's so insane alltogether from the get go, you gotta make yourself go out and do it.


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by Ripped Bag on Nov-09-2005 02:39:

I go bear fishing. I sit high up in a tree with a monster reel and put a turkey on the end of the line waiting for bears.

I'm just cool like that.


Posted by Scoops on Nov-09-2005 02:41:

ice fisihing


Posted by smokeape on Nov-09-2005 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripped Bag
I go bear fishing. I sit high up in a tree with a monster reel and put a turkey on the end of the line waiting for bears.

I'm just cool like that.


BWHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!

That is so cool I gotta try that one!


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by ghille on Nov-09-2005 14:39:

I used to hunt alot, deer, goose, duck, rabbit. I haven't really done much in the last couple of years, I have been more into hunting people, which is actually more interesting anyway.


Posted by trewqy on Nov-09-2005 14:47:

I'm currently living in Malaysia so I go fishing almost everytime i have any spare time. Mostly theres a lot of seabass, some red snappers, the usual stingrays and the occasional groupers can be caught.

Caught a baby bull shark once at Sibu Island...gave me the most incredible fight.


Posted by washout on Nov-09-2005 15:14:

i work at a baot place.
we sell tone of fish shit.
rods, reels, line, hooks, lures.
i hear about fishing all day.



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