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Using Acid to mix.........eek

I'm just about to get my hands on a recent version of Acid to make my very first mix.

However, I dont wanna waste my time with this program so I need some Acid freaks to answer some questions about limitations.

1. Can you save a project multi-tracked (different songs on different tracks)?

2a. Can you do live reverbing? e.g In fruityloops you can hit record and then make events for gradually bringing in the reverb.

Can this be done in Acid? if so then:

2b. can you apply the reverb to just one track or has acid only got a Master reverb?

3. Can you apply fade-outs on tracks just like a normal wav-editing program?

does anybody here even use Acid?

come on, please help

1. Can you save a project multi-tracked (different songs on different tracks)?

Yes

2a. Can you do live reverbing? e.g In fruityloops you can hit record and then make events for gradually bringing the reverb.

I would imagine, with the use of a controller or hotkey

Can this be done in Acid? if so then:

2b. can you apply the reverb to just one track or has acid only got a Master reverb?

Both

3. Can you apply fade-outs on tracks just like a normal wav-editing program?

Yes



Ps. chill on the bump, this a slower moving forum than most, but legitimate questions will usually always be answered.

I use acid for edits mainly, not making sets

Thanks man. What do you recommend for mixing then? (software only)

I was thinking that if acid is no good I might try Adobe "Audition". Im so comfortable with cooledit so I thought it might be a good idea.

my computer is dead at the moment but when I get a new CPU I will try out Audition to see what it is like. I didnt get a chance to install it on my PC before it died.

native instruments traktor dj studio.
ableton live.

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Originally posted by meneedit Thanks man. What do you recommend for mixing then? (software only) I was thinking that if acid is no good I might try Adobe "Audition". Im so comfortable with cooledit so I thought it might be a good idea. my computer is dead at the moment but when I get a new CPU I will try out Audition to see what it is like. I didnt get a chance to install it on my PC before it died.

Acid is good enough, only you can't do live mixing with it.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Acid is good enough, only you can't do live mixing with it.

Yeah, its really good for making a personal mix cd or something..

If traktor and Ableton arent up your alley i suggest Mixmeister..

Its pretty solid version 5+

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Acid is good enough, only you can't do live mixing with it.

true. its not traktor but then it doesnt try to be.

if you have decks though you can mix and record it in realtime.

to the OP. you can do all of those things in ACID - although its more suited as a production environment rather than a mixing tool.

anything that fruity and cubase and logic can do, acid can do more or less although getting to the same place in all of these applications requires a different methodology.

in the end, it comes down to how well you know your sequencer and how long you spend using all of its possible functions.

also, you cannot live mix using software only in adobe audition. adobe audition is a wave editting utility.

if you want to mix in software you would best consider purchasing traktor dj or ableton live. if you can afford it.

It's my fault.... I dont know what I am talking about. I'm using the word "mix" when I dont fully comprehend it.

All I mean is I wanna be able to multitrack:

--song 1-----
--------song2------
-------------song 3------


and then be able to live reverb (record myself gradually bringing in the amount of reverb.... and possibly the decay)

If Acid can do that it's all good

oh.... one more question about Acid. (well, maybe a few)

I heard that Acid has a beatmatching feature.

I can't imagine this feature being very good as some songs have sections where there is no beat at all.

1. How does the beat matching work?

does it search for a section in each song that has a beat then compare them?

2. How does it determine the speed of each song?

I also need to know whether you can change the pitch of a track without altering the speed. I realise that this would involve splicing but i'm not too worried about that.


I believe it is having every song in the same key that makes a good mix.

...and if you are letting the beatmatching alter the pitch, that is going to stuff it up.

Please, don't try and mix in soundediting programs. That's not what they're for. It will only make it harder, more boring, and will take too much of your time. Don't bother, learn to beatmatch instead.

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Originally posted by PutBoy Please, don't try and mix in soundediting programs. That's not what they're for. It will only make it harder, more boring, and will take too much of your time. Don't bother, learn to beatmatch instead.

yeah if you do it in cooledit, soundforge etc yes

Ableton Live makes it much easier though And don't think that I don't mix with vinyl cause I do. I just like Ableton as well and wanted to say that it's certainly not that hard to do mixes with it, cause it also made for mixing

uhh, would somebody like to answer those questions about Acid though...

please...

dropping some acid and then attempting to mix as you drool all over yourself? Sounds Bonza!

Take my advice and forget about mixing in Acid Pro. I tried it once and never again. Ableton is much easier and better to use.

Firstly, Acid isn't a live tool so you'll have to automate every single crossfade, eq adjustment etc with envelopes and it takes longer than you'd think.

Then there's the beat-matching. If the tune's have been ripped from vinyl and they drift slightly there's no way of correcting it like you could a 1210. Ableton has warping so you can warp the drift back in line before you even start to play the track.

Trust me, go with Ableton.

OK OK! I'll consider it, geez!

what the fock is this Ableton thing anyway? It's probably not even easy to use.

and then there's the fact that If I cant get a copy i'm gonna have to use Acid anyway. Besides, I wasnt going to use Acid by itself.


regardless, I STILL need the answers to those last ACID questions!

please

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Originally posted by meneedit oh.... one more question about Acid. (well, maybe a few) I heard that Acid has a beatmatching feature. I can't imagine this feature being very good as some songs have sections where there is no beat at all. 1. How does the beat matching work? does it search for a section in each song that has a beat then compare them?

It doesn't have a beatmatching feature, it has a feature that calculates the bpm (by counting the peaks of the waveform - you can also adjust the bpm manually) and then adjusts it to your master bpm.

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2. How does it determine the speed of each song?

See above.

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I also need to know whether you can change the pitch of a track without altering the speed. I realise that this would involve splicing but i'm not too worried about that.

I'm not sure about that but you can alter the speed of the track without changing the pitch.

Now please, stop the bumping.

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Originally posted by meneedit what the fock is this Ableton thing anyway? It's probably not even easy to use.

Like most things in life, it gets easier with practise. The more you put in the more you'll get out. As far as mixing goes I'm an intermediately skilled user of Ableton and I got there in next to no time at all. Quick read through the manual, asked a few questions on the Ableton forums and away I went. All I need to learn now is all the built in FX.

Get a copy, you wont regret it. If you don't think you'll like it then download a copy first or try the demo.

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