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Considering switching my program. AGAIN.

So anyway, straight out of highschool, I went into mechanical engineering (robotics & automation). I thought it'd be awesome, and I was really excited. November 2003 rolls around, and I wanted to get the hell out, so I did.

Everybody figured I'd be good at something business-like, and I thought 'why the hell not,' so I delved into marketing. So in September 2004, I started into business marketing. My first year went fine, good marks all across the board and I liked it alright, didn't really enjoy it, but didn't hate it per se.

Now, 2nd year of this crap, I want to get out of this too. I'm not one for a lot of bullshit, and that's what this seems to be. Too much of it in fact, it's almost ridiculous. I have absolutely zero motivation to do any of this work. When I do it I get great marks but I just don't want to do it. I have absolutely no interest in it anymore.

Throughout my life, writing and the English language have been my strongest suit - mathetmatics, my arch nemesis. I began helping out one of my friends with his startup automotive review website almost 3 years ago going and driving cars and doing real reviews for that, but getting into my heavy workload at school I had no time for such things anymore, and my parents saw it as a waste of time. I disagreed and would have loved to continue on doing such a thing, as it combined my 2 strong suits, vehicular knowledge and my grasp of the English language by way of writing.

Upon me stopping helping my buddy with the review writing, he had to take 90% of the workload into his own hands, which resulted in his social life being put on the backburner. He soldiered on and had that website purchased by the Canadian Auto Press (CAP), is now a successful (at the age of 19, no less) journalist writing articles for many magazines and whatnot around Ontario thus far in addition to many others where his articles are syndicated, is a member of the Automotive Journalism Association of Canada, and also CAP. You may have read some of his work, his name is Justin Couture.

So basically I'm thinking of getting into something like written journalism. Perhaps paramedic stuff. That has always intrigued me, and when I was younger, and even up until a few years ago I would read my mom's medical textbooks for shits and giggles. She's a registered nurse, and has a metric fucktonne of them laying around. I've been interested in how the human body works since as far back as I can remember.

I just don't know, really. I wish I'd gone into school with an undeclared major, perhaps I'd have sorted myself out a few years back. I can't wait to hear the reaction from my parents when I let them know this wondrous tidbit of info.

Maybe I'm just being retarded from my lack of sleep in the past few days, considering it's 2:21am...


TL;DR (too long; didn't read) version:
My program sucks and I want to change it.

I'm in my third year now. doing accounting. and I HATE it!

wanna transfer to Sheridan to get a diploma in photography.
wanna... but not gonna

Re: Considering switching my program. AGAIN.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 So basically I'm thinking of getting into something like written journalism. Perhaps paramedic stuff.

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Originally posted by Euphorica this ADD moment is brought to you by, Gatorade- Is it in you?

Fuck off. I'm just throwing out ideas here for myself, alright?

2nd year of programming, and I regret not taking journalism instead...I'll give it another semester..

Good, seems I'm not alone here.

Im in my last year of mech eng design crapididoo and I hate it too. I think pretty much everyone hates what they are in school for UNLESS they are much older and know exactly what they want at school.

it sucks, but im pushing through just to do something. I had no clue what i wanted to do either (out of hs). I know its not gonna be my life career doing this. Maybe a little bit out of school, but ill move onto something else.

Your idea to go into writing is cool as is the whole car review thing. Do you really need to go to school to do it with your buddy though? obviously down the line it woudl make you better, but maybe you shoudl finish your marketing. Then maybe if you are stil interesting do writing stuff on the side. then you can market your writing skillz like a pro.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Fuck off. I'm just throwing out ideas here for myself, alright?

btw, if you like blood and seeing nasty shit. be a paramedic. Its great helping people(for sure) but dude, you see some messed up shit. Even playing on death websites(or places like consumption junction etc) cant adjust you for seeing it in real life.

Part of it interests me aswell but i dont know if I could deal with the nasty stuff.

Meh.

That's school for ya.

Wanted to do CS (computer science) all throughout high school. Went into uni as a CS major. First year was allright - we did fun stuff, learned a lot, and it wasn't too hard. Second year got a lot more boring - we started learning a lot more theory and other absolutely useless tripe, and it got a lot more harder. At that point when people asked me how I liked my program I was replying "meh, it's hard, but kinda enjoyable". Now it's third year - harder still, and i'm being forced to take a lot of courses I have absolutely no interest in. Right now, I'd say I hate my program. Then again, that could be because it's 2:30am and I'm working on one of the 3 assignments due in the next few days.

Have I thought of quitting? Hell yeah - a lot. I'm interested in a lot of stuff, ranging from automotive engineering to psychology, and know that if I actually applied myself to it, I could succeed in them. However, I'm 3 years into a 4 year program - I figure I might as well finish this shit, and see how much I like/dislike the workforce before switching streams. Plus, 4th year looks a lot more flexible and thus interesting.

End of rant.

Re: Considering switching my program. AGAIN.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 So anyway, straight out of highschool, I went into mechanical engineering (robotics & automation). I thought it'd be awesome, and I was really excited. November 2003 rolls around, and I wanted to get the hell out, so I did. Everybody figured I'd be good at something business-like, and I thought 'why the hell not,' so I delved into marketing. So in September 2004, I started into business marketing. My first year went fine, good marks all across the board and I liked it alright, didn't really enjoy it, but didn't hate it per se. Now, 2nd year of this crap, I want to get out of this too. I'm not one for a lot of bullshit, and that's what this seems to be. Too much of it in fact, it's almost ridiculous. I have absolutely zero motivation to do any of this work. When I do it I get great marks but I just don't want to do it. I have absolutely no interest in it anymore. Throughout my life, writing and the English language have been my strongest suit - mathetmatics, my arch nemesis. I began helping out one of my friends with his startup automotive review website almost 3 years ago going and driving cars and doing real reviews for that, but getting into my heavy workload at school I had no time for such things anymore, and my parents saw it as a waste of time. I disagreed and would have loved to continue on doing such a thing, as it combined my 2 strong suits, vehicular knowledge and my grasp of the English language by way of writing. Upon me stopping helping my buddy with the review writing, he had to take 90% of the workload into his own hands, which resulted in his social life being put on the backburner. He soldiered on and had that website purchased by the Canadian Auto Press (CAP), is now a successful (at the age of 19, no less) journalist writing articles for many magazines and whatnot around Ontario thus far in addition to many others where his articles are syndicated, is a member of the Automotive Journalism Association of Canada, and also CAP. You may have read some of his work, his name is Justin Couture. So basically I'm thinking of getting into something like written journalism. Perhaps paramedic stuff. That has always intrigued me, and when I was younger, and even up until a few years ago I would read my mom's medical textbooks for shits and giggles. She's a registered nurse, and has a metric fucktonne of them laying around. I've been interested in how the human body works since as far back as I can remember. I just don't know, really. I wish I'd gone into school with an undeclared major, perhaps I'd have sorted myself out a few years back. I can't wait to hear the reaction from my parents when I let them know this wondrous tidbit of info. Maybe I'm just being retarded from my lack of sleep in the past few days, considering it's 2:21am... TL;DR (too long; didn't read) version: My program sucks and I want to change it.

Check out Western's Media and Info-Techniculture program. And that allows you to go into the Journalism Program at Western. My housemate is in the Journalism program, sounds exactly what you would enjoy.

Let me know if you need info.

Cale you are not alone! This is obviously one of the hardest decisions of your life. I took 3 years of accounting and realised that I just wanted out. I had taken accounting in Uni because i really did not know what I wanted to do in life. I am now in a computer program and much happier.

The problem today is, I think humans have developed past the point where 1 all encompassing thing will make them happy. We are too complex to be satisfied by one job. A very common statistic is that the average person will switch careers 5 times in their lives. People will not know, at this stage in life, what makes them happy, because they have not experienced it.

You were in mech eng, but did you at all work in that industry before deciding? Chances are no. You are now in marketing, again did you work much in that field? Probably not at the leve which you were training for.

My point is, fuck it. If you change, then go ahead. The destination of life and your education is AS important as the road which gets you there. Fine you switch programs a million times, and you finally end up at some job. Are you a better person for having studied a bunch of things? Did you enjoy the trip? Hopefully so.

You said that you enjoyed writting, and obviously(i must bow down) you have a passion for cars. I say go where you want to, chances are you are going to change your career down the road again. You might as well try something you like.

god there is sooo much i want to say about this topic...a million thoughts are flying through my head right now.

Damn. Thanks Bobby, that's pretty uplifting. One of my big concerns was that I'll be like 25-26 when I graduate, which sucks, but as you said if I get there and it's worthwhile, who gives a shit?

Dude, I am almost counting on being that old when I graduate. I know I am in a program right now that I like. I am hoping i finish, but I am preparing just in case I switch yet again.

I honestly hope I end up being 50 years old and having worked in a bunch of different jobs. That way i can truly be the well rounded person who I think I am today.

Remember, as an intelligent provocative individual, you should not have to confine yourself to one path in life.

The advice i got from my older sis was soo different. She said suck it up, pick something, finish, and worry about what you love later. I do not agree with that, because I am the type of person who cannot go along with something if my heart isn't in it. I was on my way to having tonnes of money; good grades in an accounting program, and guaranteed job with an accounting firm when i leave school.

Passion is what drives us, don't let anybody take that away from you. No matter how much logic and financial bullshit they throw at you.

Yeah. I was pushed by that sort of thing in the beginning too, coinage at the end of the line. It's not that important to me to be making huge sums of money if I hate my job. I watched my dad go to a job he disliked 5 days a week until about 4 years ago when he made a complete career change and now he's the happiest bastard I know.

I just switched to Peace and Conflict Studies program at Waterloo. Brand new. I think I'm the first guy taking it as a major. (Switched from history)

I know what I want to be pretty much after uni. So, might as well take the program that you think you'd enjoy.

Happy worker is a productive worker. If I make sufficient coin to cover my expenses and not put me in debt, I'll be happy.

My brother took marketing at sheridan, finished, then worked as a marketing coordinator for 2 years. Quit, and started a landscaping business. Hes been doing that for about 3 years now and its his baby, still growing, but its mostly a summer thing. Even with that, my brother still isnt sure what he wants to do. Hes 26.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Damn. Thanks Bobby, that's pretty uplifting. One of my big concerns was that I'll be like 25-26 when I graduate, which sucks, but as you said if I get there and it's worthwhile, who gives a shit?

what's the rush dude? its better to take a couple of extra years to do something that you truely want to do than to rush through something and be stuck with some crappy degree that's going to get you a job that you're going to hate doing for the rest of your life. it's not a matter of when you get there, just that you get there.

4 years of chemical engineering - how i wish i had done somthing different....

its all so clear in hindsight

Every university program is BS, Cale. You have to realize that undergraduate programs are a means to an end, not an end in themselves.

Post-graduate studies are where it gets interesting, if you choose to do that. Until then, I would really suggest you finish what you started, because after your 4 years, it's what's written on that piece of paper that matters, not how much fun you had getting it. A business degree will open up many more doors for you than a garden-variety BA. Switching programs again (and especially into journalism) is just throwing away money; no offense to the journalists here, but you all know what you got yourselves into.

Yes, I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to take it up the ass for a while in order to live the dream later.

Irrespective of my personal feelings on Queen's, the business folk always get wide-eyed when I tell them that's where I got my degree, and that's what it's all about when you hit the working world - image.

I feel your pain dude, I really do. At one point I had considered switching programs as well, but a year and a half after graduation I am *very* glad that I finished off.

Exactly, there's a fine line between hating what you're doing, and hating doing schoolwork in general. I'm damn lazy so all my school hating probably stems from that fact.

ugh. trust me dude. You are not the only one.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Every university program is BS, Cale. You have to realize that undergraduate programs are a means to an end, not an end in themselves.

Listen to what Digi said. I agree with him.

From a career perspective undergraduate degrees and college diplomas serve one purpose: to get you your FIRST FEW jobs (jobs within your first 3 to 5 years after graduation and that's it).

Unless you want to be a "professional" (doctor, lawyer, engineer, accountant, scientist, teacher - all which require post grad work/professional designation) your degree or diploma can be in ANYTHING.

Employers are risking quite a bit by hiring people with no work experience. The fact that one has gone through the process of acquiring a degree/dimploma shows they have the ability to learn (which is probably the key success factor for a new employee). Over 80% of one's career/work knowledge will not come from their education but from their work experience (on the job learning).

The longer that someone is out of school and the more -successful- work experience someone has the LESS relevant the degree/diploma becomes. Sure, employers will still look to see if it is there but it's value and it's influence in the hiring process diminishes significantly over one's working life (thus the reason you see liberal arts people working in all areas of business in later life).

You'd be surprised how -hard- it is to find good employees (not great employees, not amazing employees - just good). Having hired (many) and fired (some) finding someone who fits within an organization, performs their tasks with excellence and fulfills their responsibilities completely is so damn hard. The educational aspect of an employee is only one of the variables - a variable that diminishes in value as an employee has a greater base of performance criteria to evaluate.

Bottom line - unless you want a "profession" (something which requires -specific- educational training/designation) I would think long and hard before spending more money and more time by changing programs.

*phew* That was long winded. Sorry.

I don't think you should be too concerned with when you graduate, so long as you graduate with something.
I've been struggling through my CS program for a couple of years now. I was supposed to graduate two years ago, and I'm not even in class now. I've gotten through three years of it, but so slowly and am so behind that I need another year and a half to graduate. All things considering, I'll probably be 25 when I graduate. Still though, you have a nice, solid 40 years of work after that, so what's the hurry now? It's worth it to take your time and do something you might actually enjoy.

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