Is SAE Institute any good for producing music

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Posted by Jake Benson on Nov-11-2005 10:15:

Is SAE Institute any good for producing music

I think it might be a good idea to get some college experience with music production, so that I feel well rounded and grounded better in production of music. (I produce a lot of trance, drum n bass, new age, and miscellaneous.)

SAE is an institute for audio technology and film producing and there's locations all around the world. I'm curious to know if anyone has gotten any degrees from it and if it helped any with music production / audio engineering. I'm considering the one in Hollywood, CA, USA. Are they all the same around the world, or are certain ones better than others? And is it worth $14,000 for only 9 months and a diploma?

Thanks!
-jake

Posted by Jake Benson on Nov-12-2005 13:57:

I'll take the lack of responses as either:

A. No one has experienced SAE and I should probably proceed with severe caution

or

B. I'm a dumbass for posting in the wrong forum

-jake

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-12-2005 14:03:

Probably both.

Posted by [ groovypants ] on Nov-13-2005 02:31:

You might want to ask those questions in this thread:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...8910&perpage=12

Posted by Brizzo on Nov-13-2005 02:32:

C. put a shirt on.

Posted by allcentury18 on Nov-13-2005 02:53:

emerson has a great program in L.A. highly recommend looking into it

Posted by Kooshtie on Nov-13-2005 03:29:

Hey guy, two kids I knew from highschool go to SAE in NYC ...to be honest, theyre attempting to make careers out of being sound engineers ..or producers, let me be honest and say if u go that direction be ready to pitchout a good chunk of cash, and not find a job after u graduate. These kids are stoner aspirers/dreamers, wanting to make music making their money maker. My other buddy Ian, went to Fullsail in FL, he graduated payed 50,000 for the school and till this day cannot find work in that field. So to summarize that, go into that program if u have a shitload of extra money to drop on a hobby or learning about it @ a college level, otherwise pick a profession that will make u an actual income. From the 3 kids that i know, one being my close friend, hes out 50k plus no career, and the other two are gonna end up the same.

Posted by heine206to615 on Nov-14-2005 22:32:

I'm a little more than halfway through the program @ the Nashville SAE, and would have to say I'm a little dissapointed...Although it's a well rounded education in all things audio, I enrolled hoping to gain more experience and knowledge pertaining to production, software, etc. That part of the program is already over and only lasted a total of 4 weeks and basically just touched the surface of reason, dp, and cubase. The program (in Nashville at least) is very bias towards electronic music and focuses a lot more on technical skills (electronics) and how to make live instruments sound better (micing techniques) and things of that nature. Alright after having ranted there I would say everything else in the curriculum is interesting and important to know when working if you plan on making a career out of audio other than just producing, but if you were thinking of this program more as training in production (like i did) your money might be better spent finding a more specific program...SAE miami has a dj school / electronic music production course. Hope any of that made any sense and/or helped. Feel free to pm me if you have anything more specific you were wondering about.

Posted by neo geo on Nov-15-2005 03:57:

i almost went to the sae institute in amsterdam and i was going to take their audio program along with the electronic music production. I have a few freinds who work in the audio field and dont make shit for money and all they do is work 80-100 hours a week. Sorry to bust your bubble man but the audio field is going to shit and the jobs are not working in the studios,you can make some ok money with working at a tv station.

Posted by varun on Nov-15-2005 04:46:

I have been working as a sound reinforcement engineer for nearly 2 years. Incidentally, the company I work for manages the SAE in Bangkok.
In all honesty, I can confidently say that SAE is a business. They are more geared towards seperating you from your hard earned cash than they motivated to provide you with quality education. This is not to say that you will not learn anything in SAE. It's just that there are alternatives. If it is audio/accoustic engineering that interests you, it's better to enrol as an intern/trainee in a A/V company.
Also, the SAE Bachelor of Recording Arts degree focuses more on studio setup/design and mantainence. If you want experience in live sound/PA and the like, it's better to look for an A/V job. It all comes down to what you want.

Posted by Jake Benson on Nov-15-2005 08:18:

Wow, this was dissappointing to read, but I thank you guys for telling me the truth. The tour I had today got me really excited about the college too. I just feel like I need direction in technicality and the business of music, but don't know where to seek it. I asked the guy touring me several questions on whether the school gave me opportunity to make connections with other producers, production companies, etc., and it seemed like I got positive feedback from him. As for Full Sail, I took their cattle-call tour and then basically told the people they could kiss my ass. Full Sail is bullshit.

-jake
p.s. As for you Brizzo,

quote:
C. put a shirt on.

No, bitch. Take your shirt off. That's good, now dance sexy for me.