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hey guys whats up

i have a serious problem here, and its just pissin me off to the max, its regarding Reason

anytime i play a song now, it just freezes (too much cpu usage) and thers no other programs running, im sure all reason users here once witnessed this sometime in their lives...

INTEL PENTIUM 4 2.6 GHZ 800MHZ CPU+FAN
ASUS P4S800 MOTHERBOARD (BUILT-IN SOUND CARD)
512 MB DDR PC3200 / 400 MHZ
another 512 MB OCZ Ram
HITACHI 80 GB HDD 7200 RPM

theres my computer, now i think the problem is that it might be the built-in soundcard which can't carry so many sounds at once... is that possible? because again, this computer is good enough for any program i think... and reason isnt that big, doesnt even use vsts

so someone please help me, let me know any kind of problems u think i might have so i can text it all...

thanks

well sunny... no matter how good u think your computer is, itll still run into problems once in a while

for instance: my computer, dual 2.7ghz g5 with 2gb ram and logic pro 7, and yes i still sometimes get audio errors!

why, simply because sometimes no machine can process the ammount of data and ram that us producers use... and think of this, every single FX channel you open takes up more ram and more space...

as for the soundcard, yes, soundcards do make a huge difference... you can get one thats probally 100x better than your stock one for around only 150-200$, even cheaper if you go to ebay...

but as for now, the advice i give you is... ALWAYS EXPORT...

think of this, you have a crash with 4 FX channels on it... you're generally not going to be needing to automate that crash with the current FX so what u should do, is simply bounce the crash, then delete the FX channels and open it up in a sampler... WALLAH! less ram usage....

hope this could help you out a little bit buddy!

northern comfort represent!

Wow, I wonder how many times people need to say "don't use built-in soundcards" on this forum before everybody takes the hint...

I think I need to add a "CPU" section to the FAQ!

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Originally posted by DigiNut I think I need to add a "CPU" section to the FAQ!

i bet that soon, all there is to this forum is your FAQ

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Originally posted by Subtle i bet that soon, all there is to this forum is your FAQ

Ha ha. Personally I'd rather it be just the FAQ than the same 20 questions over and over again!

Sorry DiGi but i miss read. I was just trying to sound smart

OCZ is a brand, not a type of memory.

get an audigy 2 . . cheap and nice card to use
and re-install da windows coz some spyware could make this happen

If the CPU usage is unnaturally high (jitters and sample underruns with 2 subtractors running ) then it might be a hardware conflict. I just had a similar problem and I solved it 2 days ago (you can search for the thread on this forum). Turns out that my Ethernet network adapter was messing with my soundcard and it would go crazy on the CPU. I had to disable it for the sound to work (Now I have an external wireless card instead).

Try takin out all PCI cards other than your soundcard, and disable every built-in items on your mainboard (network adapters, Firewire, internal audio (unless that's what you're using ). See if that helps. If not, try reinstalling windows. If that doesn't help... then you're in deep shit... (I know your pain, it took me 4 months to figure out the cause of my problem!).

It's because we have to pay to get your tunes now.

I think if just put them on tranceaddict like the old days, then your problem will be solved.

Hehe, sorry mate. No idea! Hope you sort it though.

thanks for the help everyone, ill prolly try that taking out the slots stuff, otherwise im gonna just buy a new pc

and to :

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 It's because we have to pay to get your tunes now. I think if just put them on tranceaddict like the old days, then your problem will be solved. Hehe, sorry mate. No idea! Hope you sort it though.

im gonna have some new free tunes on my site soon, when the damn site is done though, real soon promise

THE Sunquest uses an on board sound card?!?!

GUARENTEED that's your problem...

Dood... do yourself a favour and buy a legit production sound card. Forget Audigy... they're made for gaming. If you're short on cash, M-Audio makes a great series raging from $200+ (Audiophile or Delta series). If you can spare the cash, maybe get into an EMU card. You'll no longer be using emulated ASIO drivers and would be processing audio data properly.

I bet your computer would run like a dream.

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Originally posted by Tygon THE Sunquest uses an on board sound card?!?! GUARENTEED that's your problem... Dood... do yourself a favour and buy a legit production sound card. Forget Audigy... they're made for gaming. If you're short on cash, M-Audio makes a great series raging from $200+ (Audiophile or Delta series). If you can spare the cash, maybe get into an EMU card. You'll no longer be using emulated ASIO drivers and would be processing audio data properly. I bet your computer would run like a dream.

is it also possible that this new soundcard would help Cubase? ive tried all versions of cubase and this is what happens:
it either:
1. freezes when i open a 16 midi track
or
2. wont even load/open cubase

is it possible its the soundcard again?
cause i tried a non on board real good sound card my friend gave me once, and cubase did the same thing?!?! froze at the 16 midi track opening...

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Originally posted by Sunquest is it also possible that this new soundcard would help Cubase? ive tried all versions of cubase and this is what happens: it either: 1. freezes when i open a 16 midi track or 2. wont even load/open cubase is it possible its the soundcard again? cause i tried a non on board real good sound card my friend gave me once, and cubase did the same thing?!?! froze at the 16 midi track opening...

I think the most important thing besides having a decent sound card... is the drivers. If your pc can't process the audio properly through the drivers it's using, your computers gonna sloooooooooow riiiiight down. If the sound card isn't designed for audio/production in mind, it will repeat processes irrationally and illogicaly... and that's when your pc can't keep up. If your sound card and drivers can process the audio properly the first time, your computer will run just fine.

This goes for Cubase as well. Get a proper ASIO sound card... and you'll be just fine.

READ THIS

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Originally posted by Tygon READ THIS

clear out ur inbox, im trying to send u a pm, its full

It would help to know what version of Reason you are using. Secondly, like everyone has already said, get a real soundcard, not the built in piece of shit onboard sound that is murderous to producing.

looking to get a new card for ze g5.. any reccomendations?

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Originally posted by TylerM looking to get a new card for ze g5.. any reccomendations?

oh yea, and does anyone know how good the actual stock G5 card is, i can't seem to find any info on it

I agree with tygon, a drivers problem. I remember I got the same problems some times ago, reason freezes and sounds horrible, and the cpu goes out the limit. that happened using reason2.5, with an audiophile firewire sound card, I reinstalled the drivers, updated them and everything turned normal.

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Originally posted by SouthernDJ I agree with tygon, a drivers problem. I remember I got the same problems some times ago, reason freezes and sounds horrible, and the cpu goes out the limit. that happened using reason2.5, with an audiophile firewire sound card, I reinstalled the drivers, updated them and everything turned normal.

ok so how would i update my driver, its an onboard soundcard of ASUS P4S800 i think its SoundMax soundcard
i already tried every possible thing in google, no way of finding a driver for this...

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Originally posted by Sunquest ok so how would i update my driver, its an onboard soundcard of ASUS P4S800 i think its SoundMax soundcard i already tried every possible thing in google, no way of finding a driver for this...

go to the official soundmax digital audio website, toolbox

Well, if Reason is giving you problems and Cubase is freezing than it's very likely a driver issue. Try Asio4All if you don't have them.


Oh, and if you're looking for a new sound card, I recommend M-Audio, those things are great, cheap and reliable I have a Delta 44 myself, couldn't be happier with it

well, I dont recommend M-Audio at all, I said I own a 24/96 Audiophile firewire and except of driver problems, sometimes it crashes when I plug in another hardware in another firewire port, like an external hard drive or other devices.
Also I don't know if other m-audio card owners have the same problem.

I've got a Delta44 and it peforms brilliantly. I'd recommend it (if you need 4 ins and 4 outs)

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