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Posted by Toufas on Nov-16-2005 15:51:

what is progressive?

someone said that kraftwerk invented the term, someone else said that dj mag coined the term..
can someone post both stories or something else that explains it please?

Posted by Azz3D on Nov-16-2005 16:02:

I believe it was used to describe the music Leftfield produced in the early 90s because it was different and it was not following "the formula"...

Posted by Toufas on Nov-16-2005 16:06:

so what are the differences in prog house and prog trance...

Posted by medinaM5 on Nov-16-2005 16:19:

a mixture of ambient, trance, and house

and maybe just a little frilly goa around the edges

Posted by Fearless One on Nov-16-2005 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Toufas
so what are the differences in prog house and prog trance...

prog house it is progressive with house vibe, you know... and prog trance is more trancie

Posted by Ishkur on Nov-16-2005 19:56:

Prog. House predates Prog. Trance, but the confusion lies with the fact that today's "Prog" is neither.

Prog. House was used to refer to a class of housemusic brewing out of the early 90s that had lots of reverb, echo, staccato synth lines and arpeggiation. Very buzzy, busy-sounding work that was more like trance, but nothing like the trance back then. Tech-house also had this sound, but it was more groovecentric.

Prog. Trance emerged in the mid 90s as kind of an extension of trance, with bridges, choruses, memorable melodies and jingles and fanfares. In other words, structure. (Pure trance has no structure, and is nothing more than minimalist repetition and alien-sounding synthlines, intended to enduce the listener into a trance--hence its name). Prog. Trance was seen as regular trance progressing towards something. It was eventually replaced by even more structured and formulaic trance, ie: The Age of the Anthems, and was just about completely gone by 99.

Today's Prog. is probably closer to tech-house than trance or Prog. House. Does this make sense to you? Probably not. I'm tired of this....

Posted by RJT on Nov-16-2005 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Prog. House predates Prog. Trance, but the confusion lies with the fact that today's "Prog" is neither.

Prog. House was used to refer to a class of housemusic brewing out of the early 90s that had lots of reverb, echo, staccato synth lines and arpeggiation. Very buzzy, busy-sounding work that was more like trance, but nothing like the trance back then. Tech-house also had this sound, but it was more groovecentric.

Prog. Trance emerged in the mid 90s as kind of an extension of trance, with bridges, choruses, memorable melodies and jingles and fanfares. In other words, structure. (Pure trance has no structure, and is nothing more than minimalist repetition and alien-sounding synthlines, intended to enduce the listener into a trance--hence its name). Prog. Trance was seen as regular trance progressing towards something. It was eventually replaced by even more structured and formulaic trance, ie: The Age of the Anthems, and was just about completely gone by 99.

Today's Prog. is probably closer to tech-house than trance or Prog. House. Does this make sense to you? Probably not. I'm tired of this....

Wow. With as much bitching about you as people do on this forum, that was an exceptionally well written post. Nice work, clear answer, and I completely agree...