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Remixes, Reconstructions, Mash-Ups... WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?

EDIT: So Far:

Remix: There is many different ways to remix a song... matter of fact its unlimited. Some common ones I've noticed are using the same structure and just using differnt sounds, taking the samples and making a song out of it, make a completly new song but just use the melody of the original.

Reconstruction: Not sure about this but I think its when a producer likes a certain song which the seqencer file is either lost or very very very very very rare. In this case they remake the song complely.

Mash-up: I've only listened to one mash-up before (Pepa's Swing to gravity, very good btw) and I think it's taking two different songs and just mashing them together at the right time. Basically its like mixing two songs back and forth the same time.

Coldharbour: is Markus Schulz thing, remix

Powerhouse Rework: See Rework

Vision: A remix, I know Marco V has used this

In Search of...: See remix above (It's a Tiesto remix for his CD)

Magikal Remake: A remix, by Tiesto

Fix: Remix by Ferry Corsten, his flashover sound.. ie Ferry Corsten Fix

Club Mix: It's just the big room version of the song and the most popular version usually played in clubs.

Remix: There is many differnt ways to remix a song... matter of fact its unlimited. Some common ones I've noticed are using the same structure and just using differnt sounds, taking the samples and making a song out of it, make a completly new song but just use the melody of the orig.

Reconstruction: Not sure about this but I think its when a producer likes a certain song which the seqencer file is either lost or very very very very very rare. In this case they remake the song complely.

Mash-up: I've only listened to one mash-up before (Pepa's Swing to gravity, very good btw) and I think it's taking two different songs and just mashing them together at the right time. Basically its like mixing two songs back and forth the same time.

This should give you an idea.

well remix can be something really close to the original, for instance "cosmicman - i love you (shane 54 remix)" even the sounds are almost the same. using the same melody and/or riffs, same sounds, same vocals or samples. or sometimes the remix can be something that sounds really little like the original, maybe just using only one sound from the original or just been influenced by it. in most cases it's something between these..

remake/rework/reconstruction, usually used by the original artist when he makes a new version of his own song. or sometimes when a remixer makes it sound almost like the original it might be called remake.

mashups/bootlegs are when you mix two songs together, can be just mixed with dj software, or done in a similar way you would do a complete song.

From the top:

Remix: Theoretically, taking a song apart into its component pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing. The key here is that you're just working with one song, and its component sounds.

Reconstruction/Rework: Same as Remix. No difference.

(note: once upon a time a remix meant working with the original material and ONLY with the original material. ie: no extra drums, pads, leads, etc....that weren't represented in some way in the original work. That's not the case anymore, and hasn't been for several years)

Cover: A foreign artist reproducing an original artists' work as close as they can possibly get to the original artists' recording, or in a way that's native to the foreign artists' style. Tiga & Zyntherius - Sunglasses at Night is a cover of the 1984 hit by Cory Hart. Orgy - Blue Monday is a cover of the original 1983 hit by New Order, though both songs sound radically different. The big difference between this and a remix is there is no manipulation of the original productions' sounds. It's essentially a recreation using the modern artists' arsenal, rather than relying on samples or the original song's elements.

Mashup: A foreign artist putting two songs together (or instances of two songs together) to produce a new song. Usually, this will be the vocals from one song set against the melody and/or groove and/or instrumental of another.

any other questions?

What about a Dub or Vox?

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Originally posted by kaivaal What about a Dub or Vox?

are you serious?

I think I am still hosting that mash up if anyone wants it.

There is no difference. It's like that episode of South Park where the aliens use the word "Marflar" for everything, only in reverse.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Reconstruction/Rework: Same as Remix. No difference.

RECONSTRUCTION - is usually done when someones riped a song from a live set, theres no lead in or out, so someones uses elements from the song (drumbs,kicks,base) and adds a lead in and out, or just redoes the song, so people can burn it/play it well before its released.


REWORK - is just a small alteration to a song, if you look at any of PvDs sets theres always a few pvd reworks in there, he just changes the song to his liking so it fits with his style better, usually altering the kicks and/or baseline. Basically there's just not enough change to actually call it a remix, so its called a rework.

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Originally posted by Wyndham RECONSTRUCTION - is usually done when someones riped a song from a live set, theres no lead in or out, so someones uses elements from the song (drumbs,kicks,base) and adds a lead in and out, or just redoes the song, so people can burn it/play it well before its released.

Where did you get this from?

That's not called a Reconstruction, that's called a bootleg, or an illegal studio edit.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Where did you get this from? That's not called a Reconstruction, that's called a bootleg, or an illegal studio edit.

ish, what he said is the term "mp3 reconstruction"

Thank you. What about like Song - Song (Blah Mix) or Song - Song (Blah Remix) is there any difference? And what is a dub?

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Originally posted by montana ish, what he said is the term "mp3 reconstruction"

is that really illegal (if u don't make money of it)?

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Originally posted by montana ish, what he said is the term "mp3 reconstruction"

If it's an mp3, I would call it a rip.

Don't call it a Reconstruction. Because that will confuse things like the Pump Panel Reconstruction of New Order's Confusion, which sounds nothing like the original, and is not an mp3 bootleg rip.

Remix - Basically starting from scratch. You have to obtain the multi-track from the studio (i.e. artist/label permission). The multi track is the original song in its raw form. The remixer may take all the these parts or a few and start building from there by adding or taking away elements.

Reconstruction - I truthfully don't know what this is. Some people think that it is a remix that has never been released and someone tries to reconstruct the remix him/herself. An illegal bootleg. This is NOT the meaning of reconstruction. This term has been around way before the mp3 digital age and I've seen it written on old records and I know a defintion exists.

Mashups - Two songs put together in such a creative way that they sound like one different song altogether.

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Originally posted by Ishkur If it's an mp3, I would call it a rip. Don't call it a Reconstruction. Because that will confuse things like the Pump Panel Reconstruction of New Order's Confusion, which sounds nothing like the original, and is not an mp3 bootleg rip.

it is an mp3 rip from a set, but because its from a set theres no lead in or lead out since its mixed in/out of another song. So when u download a radio rip before the release, its always a cut down version of the song, first and last 128 beats are missing for example... the odd time some amateur producers take samples from within the song and recreate the lead in/out so its kind of a full rip instead of a cut up one, or maybe even recreate the whole song but i doubt it.

an example is FB - who's knocking. there were rips, then there was a reconstruction by indigo boy?? lol whoever he is, then there was the cd/vinyl release and the full/proper rips were taken from that or the promo.

They dont come out that often but thats what i always knew a reconstruction as.

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Originally posted by tranceaddict674 Thank you. What about like Song - Song (Blah Mix) or Song - Song (Blah Remix) is there any difference? And what is a dub?

Remix is more often made by a totally different producer, where Mix is usually far closer to the original. Dub usually features less vocals.

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Originally posted by Belgian Bonzai Remix is more often made by a totally different producer, where Mix is usually far closer to the original. Dub usually features less vocals.

a remix is just a different version of the original song, usually done by a different producer, but can still be done by the original producer. Its called a remix because the songs have similar elements/sounds but overall it sounds quite different. If a different artists remixes a song, he brings in his sound to it. Like hydroids remix of ferrys new song. Once you kno an artist/music well enough, a lot of the times you can tell who did the song just by listening, because you recognise their style/sound. If it says mix... its also a remix, just a different version done by the artist and usually by the original one.

lol this is pretty easy to understand for whoevers askin the question in the first place... go download a song, original and remix and listen to them... theres your answer

what about these:

couldharbour reconstruction
powerhouse rework
reedit
[insert name] vision
in search of sunrise remix
magikal remake
[insert name] fix
and the most used: club mix"?

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Originally posted by PlasticSoul what about these: couldharbour reconstruction powerhouse rework reedit [insert name] vision in search of sunrise remix magikal remake [insert name] fix and the most used: club mix"?

haha this is gettin crazy now

coldharbour is markus schulz thing, remix
powerhouse rework - see rework above
vision - a remix, i know marco v has used this
in search of.. - see remix above (its a tiesto remix for his cd)
magikal remake, a remix, by tiesto
fix, remix by ferry, his flashover sound.. ie ferry fix
club mix, its just the big room version of the song and the most popular version usually played in clubs.

a lot of artits use other names instead of just remix cause it looks better. And sometimes means its a different sound, like a ferry corsten remix will sound different from a ferry corsten flashover remix or ferry fix. Or tiestos isos remix is going to be a mellowed down version of the song most likely since his isos cds are just chilled out stuff

Dub?
Live Mash-Ups and Mash-Ups?
Full Reconstruction?
Bootlegs?

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Originally posted by tranceaddict674 Dub? Live Mash-Ups and Mash-Ups? Full Reconstruction? Bootlegs?

dub - already listed, apparently you can't read

mash up - learn to read the posts in a thread u started, already listed

live mash up - hmm i wonder what it means if "live" is before "mash up"?? I really can't figure this one.. any help???

bootlegs - mp3 rips from live sets that were recorded or broadcast, unreleased songs.

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Originally posted by Wyndham bootlegs - mp3 rips from live sets that were recorded or broadcast

Not always true, i.e.

Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (B.K. Bootleg Mix)

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Originally posted by Wyndham RECONSTRUCTION - is usually done when someones riped a song from a live set, theres no lead in or out, so someones uses elements from the song (drumbs,kicks,base) and adds a lead in and out, or just redoes the song, so people can burn it/play it well before its released.

10 points for the correct answer!

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown Not always true, i.e. Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (B.K. Bootleg Mix)

ok a bootleg mix is a remix not scantioned by the artist or the label...like bt - force of gravity (corsten bootleg remix)

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