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Posted by kadomony on Nov-18-2005 22:39:

Hard Drive Failures

Wtf is up with this.
Seems like people's hard drives are crashing left and right!
I know at least 6 ppl who've lost a hd over the past few months.


Posted by wizniz on Nov-18-2005 22:42:

if mine crashed id die

4 serious

or at least id be very depressed for a long time and would most likely cry a hell of a lot


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-18-2005 23:16:

Re: Hard Drive Failures

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
Wtf is up with this.
Seems like people's hard drives are crashing left and right!
I know at least 6 ppl who've lost a hd over the past few months.


i blame it on the professional and amateur pr0n industry...


Posted by Jocker on Nov-18-2005 23:19:

2 words:

redundancy & backup


Posted by TigerClaw on Nov-19-2005 01:18:

People often use Hard Drives to backup files, But they aren't reliable for long term use cause usually when in a year or so, You end up buying a bigger Hard Drive as prices go down. However, The ultimate backups will always be DVDRs, But with Blu-Ray on the horizon, It can hold about 20gigs or more on storage capacity.


Posted by Ygrene on Nov-19-2005 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Oh Cool, Learn When Not to capitLize.


Posted by Magnus on Nov-19-2005 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
People often use Hard Drives to backup files, But they arent reliable for long term use cause usually when in a year or so, You end up buying a bigger Hard Drive as prices go down. However, The altimate backups will always be DVDRs, But with Blu-Ray on the horizon, It can hold about 20gigs or more on storage capacity.


This is very true. Until then however, just redundancy, burn a lot of DVDs, and leave your PC on 24/7. Turning your machine off puts unneccessary wear and tear on your hard drive and going from hot to cold, hot to cold, over and over will subtract from a hard drives life. My entire life I've always left my machines run permanently and have never had a HD crash. In contrast, I work in an IT department and am given crashed hard drives all the time. They are always from laptop users or desktop users that don't leave their PC on. Just something to think about.


Posted by Coup on Nov-19-2005 01:25:

Dont want to tempt fate here, but ive used PC's for atleast 7 years and i turn them off at night and on in the morning, and it prob gets turned on and off 5 times a day - none of my HD's have ever ever crashed or malfunctioned.

What u said about turning on/off is more wear and tear than 24/7 is correct, but i guess if its going to fail its going to fail.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-19-2005 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
Dont want to tempt fate here, but ive used PC's for atleast 7 years and i turn them off at night and on in the morning, and it prob gets turned on and off 5 times a day - none of my HD's have ever ever crashed or malfunctioned.

What u said about turning on/off is more wear and tear than 24/7 is correct, but i guess if its going to fail its going to fail.


10+ years for me, and had 1 HDD scratched up, 1 with a weak power plug ( i can turn it on, but after 30 minutes, it would die on me), and 1 that goes spastic now and again.

like he said, there really isn't the pure 100% reliable HDD ..

so what HDDs do you buy ? i usually buy the seagate barracuda or Western digital caviar ..


Posted by Psygnosis on Nov-19-2005 02:01:

last time i bought a lexmark printer and in it came a free power surge protector.

I bought it for the power surge protector because the stuff in my computer is pretty strong so i didn't want it being destroyed if lightning struck.

2 months later, BOOM the power supply blows taking out the HDD. I was thinking why it happened so it might have been bad psu. Under warranty, i got a new HDD and psu but all files are all gone.. 2 weeks later BOOM, but this time the sparks just missed me ahah, it was that big. this time it took my motherboard.

i still didn't want to admit it was the psu

it blew up 1 more time, 3 weeks later.

so i gave the power surge protector to someone for a present and used a standard power outlet.. and everything is fine.

Moral of story, if it ain't broken, don't try to fix it.
Moral of story, if computer works, don't try anything stupid.

sorry if this was irrevelant to the topic, but hdds can fail for many reason leading to power.


Posted by UWM on Nov-19-2005 02:07:

Had the HDD on my old computer crash about a week before I got my new laptop. She was almost 7 yrs old


Posted by igottaknow on Nov-19-2005 02:09:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
People often use Hard Drives to backup files, But they aren't reliable for long term use cause usually when in a year or so, You end up buying a bigger Hard Drive as prices go down. However, The ultimate backups will always be DVDRs, But with Blu-Ray on the horizon, It can hold about 20gigs or more on storage capacity.

I've heard the industry has decided to move back to papyrus for backups. Sure it has low capacity but you can't beat it for longevity. Just ask the Pharaohs. Ever hear of a scroll crashing?

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Had the HDD on my old computer crash about a week before I got my new laptop. She was almost 7 yrs old

did you hit it?


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-19-2005 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
did you hit it?


in america, we call that a pedophile


Posted by igottaknow on Nov-19-2005 02:26:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
in america, we call that a pedophile

computer years are like dog years, so hitting a 7yr computer is like doing a milf


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-19-2005 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I've heard the industry has decided to move back to papyrus for backups. Sure it has low capacity but you can't beat it for longevity. Just ask the Pharaohs. Ever hear of a scroll crashing?


and texas instruments has stopped making TI calculators, and casio stopped making their graphing calculators to make way for the new and improved way of doing mathematical computations .... the abacus


Posted by UWM on Nov-19-2005 02:27:

What % of your posts would you say you edit, IGK. Like 85-90?


Posted by wizniz on Nov-19-2005 02:27:

i believe its fair to say 100%


Posted by igottaknow on Nov-19-2005 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
What % of your posts would you say you edit, IGK. Like 85-90?

don't avoid the question

btw, 100% is a statically impossible


Posted by wizniz on Nov-19-2005 02:39:

incorrect. what is the percentage on how many times youve woken up so far?


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-19-2005 02:46:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
computer years are like dog years, so hitting a 7yr computer is like doing a milf


well not really ...
7 years * a variance of 10 = 70 years

it would be a gilf ...


Posted by igottaknow on Nov-19-2005 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
well not really ...
7 years * a variance of 10 = 70 years

it would be a gilf ...

thats probably why he's afraid to admit he penetrated her floppy drive


Posted by prothoid on Nov-19-2005 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnus
This is very true. Until then however, just redundancy, burn a lot of DVDs, and leave your PC on 24/7. Turning your machine off puts unneccessary wear and tear on your hard drive and going from hot to cold, hot to cold, over and over will subtract from a hard drives life. My entire life I've always left my machines run permanently and have never had a HD crash. In contrast, I work in an IT department and am given crashed hard drives all the time. They are always from laptop users or desktop users that don't leave their PC on. Just something to think about.


Same here, I hate turning off my computer. I have had one disk for about 3 or 4 years now. I got the disk used, that disk has never had errors or crashes.


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Nov-19-2005 04:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
Dont want to tempt fate here, but ive used PC's for atleast 7 years and i turn them off at night and on in the morning, and it prob gets turned on and off 5 times a day - none of my HD's have ever ever crashed or malfunctioned.

What u said about turning on/off is more wear and tear than 24/7 is correct, but i guess if its going to fail its going to fail.


You should consider buying a new hard drive soon or one day you start hearing these funny noises in your pc and before you know it, thousands of your most precious mp3's are gone


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-19-2005 04:57:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
You should consider buying a new hard drive soon or one day you start hearing these funny noises in your pc and before you know it, thousands of your most precious mp3's are gone


[childlike behavior=on]
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh .... u cussed ... you said the bad word ... mp3 ...
[childlike behavior=off]




Posted by Turbonium on Nov-19-2005 05:08:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
People often use Hard Drives to backup files, But they aren't reliable for long term use cause usually when in a year or so, You end up buying a bigger Hard Drive as prices go down. However, The ultimate backups will always be DVDRs, But with Blu-Ray on the horizon, It can hold about 20gigs or more on storage capacity.

I don't agree. Optical storage just isn't as reliable for long term backup. For one thing, the only thing separating your data from the elements is this thin layer of material. And you gotta watch out for sunlight, humidity, disc bending (even slight), etc.

Optical storage just seems so fragile by nature. It's nothing but pits in a chemical medium. Nothing beats having a mirroring array of some sorts via enterprise-quality HDDs. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for.


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