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Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Nov-20-2005 12:37:

music production pc

i plan on getting a new computer since i need one badly my old piece of shit comp just aint cutting it that much anymore i was looking around a website and they have build your own PC, i picked the list of stats im about to show, my question is do people here think thats a good setup to produce on


- AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3400+ (2.2GHz / 512KB L2 cache)
- Presario SR1030Z -
- Integrated 5.1 Capable Sound - soundcard that comes with it
- NVIDIA GeForce 6200SE w/TurboCache 256MB support
- 200GB 7200 rpm SATA Hard Drive
- 512 MB DDR / PC3200 (1 DIMM)
- 48x max. CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drive (48x32x16x48x)
- 48x max. CD-ROM Drive
- Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Home Edition with SP2
- Microsoft(R) Works 8.0/ Money / MSN Encarta Plus
- 3.5in. 1.44MB Floppy Drive
- 2 USB 2.0, 1 Firewire, + Front Audio Ports


the only thing i can think that isnt that great is the 512 mb ddr
but i've worked with 128 mb since i started producing so i figured that would make a big improvement although i might just go with 1 or 2 gb's depending on how much extra i gotta pay

hopefully some people can give some good feedback


Posted by BOOsTER on Nov-20-2005 12:56:

it seems it's missing an important thing!

GET A DECENT SOUNDCARD (not integrated!!!)


Posted by djsphere on Nov-20-2005 13:02:

wtf??? microsoft encarta and that other shit? what for?

anyway, if you own good monitors/headphones yes, you can get a better soundcard, if not you can stick with the onboard one. an extra 512 of RAM would help too.


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Nov-20-2005 13:04:

lol yea i know within the next couple months i hope to have a new soundcard wont be able to get one if im getting this and holiday season comming around.
do u think thats a good setup booster


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Nov-20-2005 13:11:

thats just the software bundles that come with the pc i didnt even realized i pasted that and i plan to get a good pair on monitor speakers eventually too prob when im able to get a soundcard
and i dont think im goin for the 1 or 2 gb they want 100 extra for 1 and 200 extra for 2


Posted by DigiNut on Nov-20-2005 15:45:

You're wasting your money on that setup without a proper sound module. That should be at the top of your list.

512 MB of RAM is also pretty skimpy for a new PC. Not the place to cut corners. Tell them to throw out the bundled software and give you some more memory instead.


Posted by Subtle on Nov-20-2005 17:37:

throw out the Microsoft Works, the floppy disk and the CD-rom..

512 MB RAM, will keep u safe if u arent planning to use the PC for nothing else than music production, but when u start installing other applications and connecting to the internet it will come short..

its definitely recommended with 1024 RAM


Posted by Bedlam-UK on Nov-20-2005 17:40:

the setup you have is fine....but....yf your gonna be using samplers and vsti then 1GB memory is a must.

For �65 pounds you can pick an M-Audio 2496 ASIO card.


Posted by DigiNut on Nov-20-2005 17:41:

Ditch the XP Home too and put Pro or 2003 on it.

Mind you, I just noticed in the first post that this is a Presario... dude, that is just about THE WORST line of computers in existence. If you absolutely must buy a piece of crap like that, make sure that the first thing you do is format, because they come preloaded with a metric fucktonne of spyware and adware that's impossible to remove with Spybot & the like.

Seriously dude, don't buy that. If you're going to buy from Compaq/Dell/HP/eMachines or any of those other mass market retailers, buy from their business model lines, not their home/consumer lines. I know it looks cheap but that's because they cut corners everywhere... in reality you're actually paying more for the Compaq name and their advertising, the true value you're getting is about $500 less than what you'll pay.


Posted by DJDIRTY on Nov-20-2005 18:01:

quote:
i plan on getting a new computer since i need one badly my old piece of shit comp just aint cutting it that much anymore i was looking around a website and they have build your own PC, i picked the list of stats im about to show, my question is do people here think thats a good setup to produce on




Hi there..

How much is that system going to cost you? Build your own man... If you don't know how.. Ask some friends around, for sure someone you know knows how to build a computer. If not go to computer stores in your area and look for deals.. Don't buy a presario.. It's waste of your money..

And one more thing. There are places with refurbished computer components, that are like new and cost half the price, and you could build a faster machine for cheap. For the place you live inn, you put NYC brooklyn,. If that's the place, You can find some cheap deals there. and I mean cheap and good...


Posted by dRale on Nov-20-2005 20:07:

yea honestly, as Diginut said..that really is a piece of crap and nothing close to "music production pc" no offense at all, but if you plan to use your pc as the heart of your production studio, AT LEAST double - literally those specs in order to have a desent machine.
with those specs, you can expect crashing after running even less than 10 serious plugins on your tracks


Posted by Subtle on Nov-20-2005 20:41:

yeah, build ur own man, best advice.. that way u can configure as u want, and its not hard to put together a computer, everything is set for u to do so.. but ur still better of asking someone who knows how to look at it first..


Posted by superddman on Nov-21-2005 00:47:

spend extra money and get amd X2, very good cpu


Posted by vicinity on Nov-21-2005 00:59:

Read This!

agree with the rest, dont do it!! AMD is better than pentium tho, (here we go with the arguments!) and definately, no question, go with a dual processor. format the HD when you get it to split the large section too. Go with pro tools if you can buddy, provides your outboard sound, over headphones aswel as line level outputs and has inputs for recording outboard gear and mics. Oh ye and check the MHZ clock speed on the Front Side Bus of the cpu and the Ram. Look at no less than 800MHZ front side bus for the cpu (intels current rate) and try to for 533MHZ DDR2 RAM. Pleasure to help.


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Nov-21-2005 03:57:

its only gonna cost me like 650 US
its a big improvment to wat i been using for the past 3 years
im able to run a good amount of vst and samples on my comp and its got 128 ram. to upgrade to 1 gb its an extra 100 and for 2 its an extra 200
wat specs do u people think i should get it at if this one isnt that good


-Djdirty where in brooklyn would u say they have good deals?


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Nov-21-2005 04:11:

also its a customizable pc its not pre build they build it for you
i picked those stats figuring they would be good, also its gonna be used for musid production but not solely its gonna be for games/internet and so forth


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Nov-21-2005 04:29:

Remember the sound card you have right now is for playback purposes and isn't meant for studio so you have to get another souncard preferably with ASIO drivers because it seems the standard for all of these damn production software.


Posted by DjGeMiNi529 on Nov-21-2005 04:50:

would i be able to use it to any extent in music production cause it will prob be a couple months till i can afford a good soundcard


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Nov-21-2005 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by vicinity
agree with the rest, dont do it!! AMD is better than pentium tho, (here we go with the arguments!) and definately, no question, go with a dual processor. format the HD when you get it to split the large section too. Go with pro tools if you can buddy, provides your outboard sound, over headphones aswel as line level outputs and has inputs for recording outboard gear and mics. Oh ye and check the MHZ clock speed on the Front Side Bus of the cpu and the Ram. Look at no less than 800MHZ front side bus for the cpu (intels current rate) and try to for 533MHZ DDR2 RAM. Pleasure to help.


I think the splitting thing you are referring to is called disk paritioning. She/he can also buy a secondary hard drive and use it for music but partitioning is the better option.
DDR2 memory sucks. Do not go with this memory. There have been numerous articles regarding this type of memory which conclude that the performance is relatively slower and experience higher latencies when compared to the DDR memory.
As far as checking the clock speeds. This is completely unnecessary as most AMD based pc's run beyond that bus speed.


Posted by DJMiakoda on Nov-21-2005 05:44:

Just out of curiosity, what do the pro's prefer in a music making computer? (by pro's I mean people whom make a living composing electronic music)


Posted by djlogik on Nov-21-2005 06:35:

I suggest hitting up www.newegg.com and looking for parts to build your own computer. You will end up spending maybe $1000 for a computer that will rip apart anything in it's path heh.



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