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Posted by pvdalltheway on Nov-20-2005 16:15:

how do "U" mix?

i thought i should open up a thread for those ppl who r new to djin and needs to learn the proper techniques to beatmatchin/scratchin/eq-ing...etc
i started a few months ago and need improvements
if anyone wants to give a little pointers to me or any other djs out thre tryin to improve it would b awsome..thanks


Posted by vA|sYn[D]rOm on Nov-20-2005 16:32:

first of all you should look here

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=268927


Posted by Zild on Nov-20-2005 16:38:

I'm from the mix it in while you beatmatch club.


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-20-2005 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I'm from the mix it in while you beatmatch club.

I think I get you.. but explain..


Posted by Zild on Nov-20-2005 16:47:

Drop the record on phrase then start mixing while you ride the pitch.


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-20-2005 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Drop the record on phrase then start mixing while you ride the pitch.


Oh yeah.. thats good for a quick mix.. I prefer to at least get it matched.. which i usually do directly after I finishe the previous mix..

When I have 3+ sources at my disposal i like to have 2 tracks beatmatched and ready to go, then the hilarity begins


Posted by Zild on Nov-20-2005 17:03:

Yeah I wouldn't do that if I were mixing trance. And it does make for some rough mixes sometimes, but most people don't have a clue if I let a beat slip for half a second.

I do have an unhealthy obsession with mixing more tracks with less breakdowns as quickly as possible. It will be the end of me one day.


Posted by pvdalltheway on Nov-20-2005 17:09:

some djs suggest counting beats in ur head for like a min or 30 seconds...any multiple of 60 but that doesnt sound like smthng thas really useful...lol not to mention if u lose count halfway

the main thing is beatmatchin...the eq-ing is a skill that can b developed but doesnt sound as bad and a dj who cant match beats and sounds like a trainwreck

what i do is...i play the record...then put the second one on cue...scratch it a bit..i found that it helps me realize the speed of the song if i scratch it on cue and then pitch control ..then comes the artwork of eq-ing...but i do scrw up now and then
since first day i started spinnin..i improved alot however


Posted by s3nate on Nov-20-2005 17:43:

Beatmatch --> EQ ---> Phrase Match - Ride pitch w/e ----> Harmonix ---> The unknown!


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-20-2005 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Yeah I wouldn't do that if I were mixing trance. And it does make for some rough mixes sometimes, but most people don't have a clue if I let a beat slip for half a second.

I do have an unhealthy obsession with mixing more tracks with less breakdowns as quickly as possible. It will be the end of me one day.


Tis a good thing I don't mix trance!


Posted by razzi on Nov-20-2005 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I'm from the mix it in while you beatmatch club.


same. its a great method imo

razzi.


Posted by Tony Morello on Nov-21-2005 04:22:

how do i mix?

well...

i take a record, slap it on the turntable, beatmatch it, wait til the right time to drop it, release it, lower the eq, raise the fader, do some shit with the eq knobs to make it sound good, lower the outgoing fader, take record off and do the jesus pose

pretty basic shit if you ask me


Posted by RJT on Nov-21-2005 04:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
how do i mix?

well...

i take a record, slap it on the turntable, beatmatch it, wait til the right time to drop it, release it, lower the eq, raise the fader, do some shit with the eq knobs to make it sound good, lower the outgoing fader, take record off and do the jesus pose

pretty basic shit if you ask me




+1


Posted by wee_rooney on Nov-21-2005 16:21:

a couple of points that have helped me when i was startin out;

1. i always beatmatch the percusion NOT the kickdrums!

2. i find it helps if you use your wrong ear to beatmatch, in other words if your right eared then use your left ear when usin the pfl to beatmatch!

but everyones different, and im generally quite a backwards person


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-21-2005 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by wee_rooney

2. i find it helps if you use your wrong ear to beatmatch, in other words if your right eared then use your left ear when usin the pfl to beatmatch!



Wow, this is so true.

Just never really thought about it..


Posted by wee_rooney on Nov-21-2005 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
Wow, this is so true.

Just never really thought about it..


lol, i read it somewhere (probably here) and thought it was bullshit till i tried it ... but it works! for me anyway


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-21-2005 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by wee_rooney
lol, i read it somewhere (probably here) and thought it was bullshit till i tried it ... but it works! for me anyway


Yeah, I had never thought about it, but gave always found myself mixing with my right ear..

Weird, but cool.


Posted by sleepydragon on Nov-21-2005 22:08:

quote:
Originally posted by wee_rooney
1. i always beatmatch the percusion NOT the kickdrums!


thats a good tip its alot easier to beatmatch by listening to the percusion instead its more obvious when it starts drifting plus some tracks u cant hear the beats very well anyway.


Posted by l�cid on Nov-21-2005 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by wee_rooney
2. i find it helps if you use your wrong ear to beatmatch, in other words if your right eared then use your left ear when usin the pfl to beatmatch!

what? i didn't think being right/left eared (like right/left handed?) was possible... at least, i've never heard of it. how do you determine which ear is the "right" one?

music sounds the same in both of my ears.


Posted by Basstard on Nov-21-2005 22:19:

lol i think he means watever ear you are more used to (i think). ive been at it for abt 5 years now. ive always used my right ear to beatmatch. today i tried it with my left ear and found it extremely difficult to get it in time as i found i couldnt hear it as well. i guess its a matter of training your ear to recognize the subtletys during a mix


Posted by wee_rooney on Nov-21-2005 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid

music sounds the same in both of my ears.


yeah it will sound the same.

lol, usually you will naturally put the headphone cup to whatever ear you use most often. i dont know if you actually "left or right eared" but when i started out i always used my right ear the read that tip somewhere & started using my left ear (which didnt really feal natural to me) but it made my mixin better.

i suppose it depends on how you listen through the phones too, some people use both cups to cue up!


Posted by Basstard on Nov-22-2005 00:42:

fuk i just snapped my cans trying the left ear


Posted by sr126 on Nov-22-2005 07:45:

i'm left eared. that's because i always talk on the phone w/the reciever on the left. it feels super unatural to use my right ear when talking on the phone. when i can't beatmatch in my headphones, i expose the right ear. especially now, since i only have one monitor set up. -on the right side. when i finally design/construct my dj desk/station/work area, i will have both v8's set up. it will be insane.


Posted by on Nov-22-2005 07:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
how do i mix?

well...

i take a record, slap it on the turntable, beatmatch it, wait til the right time to drop it, release it, lower the eq, raise the fader, do some shit with the eq knobs to make it sound good, lower the outgoing fader, take record off and do the jesus pose

pretty basic shit if you ask me



Posted by T-Soma on Nov-22-2005 08:04:

I practice everything (one ear left/right and just in headphones) i mostly prefere just in the headphones but thats probably because my speakers currently are not at ear level. My left and right ear are the same for me, cant tell the dif.

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
fuk i just snapped my cans trying the left ear


Now that sucks!


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