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Posted by Purple on Nov-22-2005 08:28:

Trance with High Bass or Low Bass?

What is the best Equalizer setting in Winamp, to optimise the listening experience of Trance.

Do you use the preset 'Techno' ? Whats your Equalizer setting?


Posted by e_trance on Nov-22-2005 08:32:

trance with high bass, but not too high


Posted by Grrrrr on Nov-22-2005 08:34:

Personally i dont like using equalizers because you can hear clipping quite a lot of the time, especially with extreme settings (like high bass)


Posted by Fearless One on Nov-22-2005 09:03:

it dependes on your sound system... if you got decent one you can make bass a bit louder, but as somebody said not too much, just experiment to get best for you and your speakers


Posted by R!CH on Nov-22-2005 09:48:

i have pricey speakers...preset eqs ftl. i keep eq and gain flat and off most the time, otherwise it's a very subtle coloration to offset a bad recording


Posted by david.michael on Nov-22-2005 13:18:

There is no end-all EQ setting for all stereos.


That's like saying "what's the best car?". Depends on the situation.


Posted by isoterra on Nov-22-2005 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
i have pricey speakers...preset eqs ftl. i keep eq and gain flat and off most the time, otherwise it's a very subtle coloration to offset a bad recording



+1... if you have decent enough speakers/phones then you shouldn't need to touch the EQ


Posted by thesuperfunk on Nov-22-2005 13:52:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
if you have decent enough speakers/phones then you shouldn't need to touch the EQ


the speaker can only ever sound as good as the signal that went into it.


Posted by PlasticSoul on Nov-22-2005 15:19:

I dont use eqs...
and I use headphones.
without eq the sound sounds more original.. imo...


Posted by Grrrrr on Nov-22-2005 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Fearless One
it dependes on your sound system... if you got decent one you can make bass a bit louder, but as somebody said not too much, just experiment to get best for you and your speakers


I might be wrong here but i was actually refering to clipping in the output signal rather than distortion through the speakers. Does anyone know if i'm right?


Posted by Wyndham on Nov-22-2005 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Grrrrr
I might be wrong here but i was actually refering to clipping in the output signal rather than distortion through the speakers. Does anyone know if i'm right?


playing with the eqs wont clip ur speakers unless u really jack them up. I raise the lows and highs a bit, and lower the mids. But thats what works best for my speakers... depends on ur system, if u have a sub etc. Just play around and see what sounds best to you. But dont raise them all, if u raise a few, you should lower some as well so its balanced out.


Posted by isoterra on Nov-22-2005 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
the speaker can only ever sound as good as the signal that went into it.


...right.


Posted by punjabi on Nov-22-2005 23:53:

tweak the settings as your listening to music until you find a setting that you like.


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-23-2005 02:03:

I keep it on the "Club" setting on WinAmp for trance. It's very clean sounding. It uplifts the sound enough so that the highs are more pronounced and so the bass isn't muddled or anything.


Posted by Sumit_A on Nov-23-2005 02:29:

Theres is no "one" setting that you must have. There are far too many variables involved in this. The speaker, the soundcard's default "gain" on the "output", the DSP on the soundcard, the pre-amp volume and level controls, the mp3 decoder in question, the software EQ being used and finally the settings on the amplifier being used for the speaker. You have to tweak them all to get the perfect sound that you need, which might be different from the way we like to listen. So tweak all these settings to your personal choice....this is one thing that I really finger with, with any new sound system and takes me ages to get the sound I like.....

I hate to use the presets. Never sounds right.

Cheers!


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Nov-23-2005 08:12:

Ok guys try this for those who aren't EQ savvy.

on winamp you have 10 bands in the EQ.

60hz - lowest bass.. I recommend turning up. say +2.5

170hz - this is the bass eq that will piss off the neighbours most.. the high bass..turn it down to say -2.5 or so and you will get away with more volume and good sound.

310hz - boost this nicely.. to say +3.. this will add warmth to the track and boost up the presence of many of the best sounds in the track.. ie: basslines etc

600hz - usually leave it flat

1khz - usually flat

3khz - boost a bit for clarity.. like +2.5

6khz - -1

12khz - +1.7

14khz - +3.2

16khz - +1

and lower the preamp bar on the left side to -1.7 so that you eq settings won't make the audio file clip. Not good to have the signal clipping badly before it even gets to the speakers.


cheers


Posted by kr00t0n on Nov-23-2005 09:24:

Seeing as the EQ levels for recorded tracks will always differ, no one setting will be perfect, I just leave the EQ alone


Posted by R!CH on Nov-23-2005 09:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
I keep it on the "Club" setting on WinAmp for trance. It's very clean sounding. It uplifts the sound enough so that the highs are more pronounced and so the bass isn't muddled or anything.


this may be true for your speakers, but not neccesarily for anyone elses... bass is 'muddled' when it's sent into speakers that can't faithfully reproduce the frequencies


Posted by Purple on Nov-23-2005 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS
Ok guys try this for those who aren't EQ savvy.

on winamp you have 10 bands in the EQ.

60hz - lowest bass.. I recommend turning up. say +2.5

170hz - this is the bass eq that will piss off the neighbours most.. the high bass..turn it down to say -2.5 or so and you will get away with more volume and good sound.

310hz - boost this nicely.. to say +3.. this will add warmth to the track and boost up the presence of many of the best sounds in the track.. ie: basslines etc

600hz - usually leave it flat

1khz - usually flat

3khz - boost a bit for clarity.. like +2.5

6khz - -1

12khz - +1.7

14khz - +3.2

16khz - +1

and lower the preamp bar on the left side to -1.7 so that you eq settings won't make the audio file clip. Not good to have the signal clipping badly before it even gets to the speakers.


cheers


How do you look at decimals and numbers while setting it? My winamp dosent show it... its only bar and lines. I use Winamp 5.08c.


Posted by Spirit5 on Nov-23-2005 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
this may be true for your speakers, but not neccesarily for anyone elses... bass is 'muddled' when it's sent into speakers that can't faithfully reproduce the frequencies


Well I don't listen to music on my speakers much. They are Creative Gigaworks 7.1 speakers and sound decent, but I listen mostly on some 30 dollar Aiwa headphones just for casual listening and songs sound fine to me on most settings except ones with a lot of bass. I'm not an audiophille though, so as long as it sounds good to me and not like crap then I'm fine. Most of the time it's not the EQ setting, but the encoding of the MP3 file. Some songs are encoded better than others.


Posted by EriK_V on Nov-23-2005 17:24:

too much bass and i can't hear the vocals or melodies as well. sometimes i have to turn it down/ turn it downer


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Nov-24-2005 00:50:

it;s true there ARE settings that will sound great on most tracks.. because they are settings (like boosting the 300hz range) that warm a track up.. and that's based on the fact that frequency range is typically used to warm up the sound on any track.. not just certain ones. Just like certain settings can make most all tracks sound tinny.
About the decimal points and numbers.. you can see the setting displayed in the top display while you drag the eq sliders.


Posted by e_trance on Nov-24-2005 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS
Ok guys try this for those who aren't EQ savvy.

on winamp you have 10 bands in the EQ.

60hz - lowest bass.. I recommend turning up. say +2.5

170hz - this is the bass eq that will piss off the neighbours most.. the high bass..turn it down to say -2.5 or so and you will get away with more volume and good sound.

310hz - boost this nicely.. to say +3.. this will add warmth to the track and boost up the presence of many of the best sounds in the track.. ie: basslines etc

600hz - usually leave it flat

1khz - usually flat

3khz - boost a bit for clarity.. like +2.5

6khz - -1

12khz - +1.7

14khz - +3.2

16khz - +1

and lower the preamp bar on the left side to -1.7 so that you eq settings won't make the audio file clip. Not good to have the signal clipping badly before it even gets to the speakers.


cheers


i just tried this one it, the sound is really clear,only problem: not enough bass i think


Posted by Mandrick_v on Nov-24-2005 03:42:

Enhancer 0.15 plugin does it for me for over 5 year now, best sound on any kind of sound system.


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Nov-24-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by e_trance
i just tried this one it, the sound is really clear,only problem: not enough bass i think


you can raise the low bass (60hz) as much as you need for your setup... if you raise it a bit more then it'll probably be good to raise the midbass (170hz) a touch along with it. You can play around and see what sounds best to you.



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