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Anybody already has a Virus TI?! Is its Hypersaw as bright as JP8000 (audio inside)?!

Hi,

Anybody where who already has a Virus TI?! How good is its Hypersaw? When the filter goes full open, does it sound as bright as the JP8000 or not?

Here's a JP8000 demo: http://users.skynet.be/soundfiles/motorcycle.mp3 (it's the pad melody from "As the rush comes" by Motorcyle). It sounds very warm, but also when the filter goes full open it has very rich, smooth high frequencies.

I remember that one of the things with the previous Virus synths was that when you fully open the filter it lacks in the high frequencies compared to JP8000, so how is that now with the TI's hypersaw?!

Could anybody with a Virus TI please post an audio demo (wav, mp3) of the hypersaw to see how well it compares to the JP8000. Perhaps you can play the same melody as posted above. If you do the filter sweep thing like in that song, make sure you play it long enough with the filter full open so we can hear how much energy it has in those high frequencies!

PS: if you have no upload space, simply use yousendit.com.

Thanks to anybody who can do this!

that example sounded like software

It's from a demo of a soundbank for the JP8000 made by Ross Baker, so this is absolutely a JP8000!

So, anybody with a TI can emulate this with the new Hypersaw? Thanks!

just link you to some pads i have on my webserver at the moment.

virus b: http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/AnotherPad.mp3
vanguard: http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/PADs.mp3 (interesting part starts at 0:37)
virus + korg m1: http://www.solarproject.ch/linked/K...vs.%20Virus.mp3

Those clips are amazing theCyrus. How on earth did you manage to get Vangaurd to sound so good? I have a lot to learn.

Cyrus that supersaw sounds awesome. Which preset is it and any chance you could share that one with us?

PC

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Originally posted by Dance123 It's from a demo of a soundbank for the JP8000 made by Ross Baker, so this is absolutely a JP8000! So, anybody with a TI can emulate this with the new Hypersaw? Thanks!

i'm sure it is

waht i'm trying to say is that you don't need to spend 2000$ on a synth to get good synths.

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Originally posted by paulc_dj Cyrus that supersaw sounds awesome. Which preset is it and any chance you could share that one with us? PC

i'll share some vanguard presets soon on my website..

Here's a "superstring" i threw together on my Ti, the Hypersaws aren't as bright as the JP's , but some internal Ti EQ can fix that.
No reverb/chorus/delay used in the example.

Cybertrance

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And yes ... there are still some issues when using a lot of voices on the Ti, in the example there's some sort of skip, when a full new chord hits, you'll hear ...

sound pretty good to me, but just sounds like you've used the original presets tweaked a bit.

go on admit it, i won't mind

No actually i didn't use a preset - started from the -START- preset ! it's not that hard to create this one - just activate the 2 Hypersaws 95 detune , the sub osc, and osc 3 to SAW + detune, rectifier distortion.
unison to 8 and max spread, some EQ & analogue thingy tweaking afterwards...
thassit

'nuff said!

A shame that it cuts the release.. they always said that the hypersaw would use as much ressources as a regular osc. Even then they say to have 80 voices polyphony.

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Originally posted by groundzero74 Here's a "superstring" i threw together on my Ti, the Hypersaws aren't as bright as the JP's , but some internal Ti EQ can fix that. No reverb/chorus/delay used in the example. Cybertrance [edit] And yes ... there are still some issues when using a lot of voices on the Ti, in the example there's some sort of skip, when a full new chord hits, you'll hear ...

Hi,

Thanks very much for the audio demo! Fact is that when the filter goes open it starts to skip and do weird things like you mentioned.

Could you perhaps make an audio demo with the TI Hypersaw playing just one chord with the filter immediately all the way open without any sweeping, so a straight chord. I think that's the best way to test and hear how good the high frequencies are with the TI Hypersaw. I would really appreciate it if you could do this!

Thanks very much!

Ok, what exactly ? One OSC , playing one hypersaw (1-9 saws ?), playing which notes ?
Detune - otherwise every time you hit a note it's slightly different...

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Originally posted by groundzero74 Ok, what exactly ? One OSC , playing one hypersaw (1-9 saws ?), playing which notes ? Detune - otherwise every time you hit a note it's slightly different...

Hi groundzero74 and others with a Virus TI,

Maybe the best way to test is to simply play the pad melody of Motorcycle's "as the rush comes". Here is the JP8000 demo again so you can hear it: http://users.skynet.be/soundfiles/motorcycle.mp3 The big advantage of that melody is that it is just a 2-note harmony, one lead note against one bass note, so that shouldn't give too much trouble for the TI regarding skipping I hope.

Perhaps play it immediately and long enough with the filter full open continiously (no need to do the sweep thing) as it's in the high frequencies I would love to hear how bright and smooth the TI sounds compared to the JP8000 (listen to the JP8000 demo after 14 seconds, then it is really bright with filter full open).

As far as programming goes, please try to emulate the sound from that JP8000 demo as close as possible for easy comparison, so use those TI hypersaws as much as needed, perhaps also mention how much EQ, reverb etc.. you needed. It would be superb if you could recreate that typical smooth, bright JP8000 sound with a TI and let us hear it!!

If anybody else has a Virus TI, please try it too and post an audio demo of the result!!

I would really appreciate it if you could do this? Thanks very much!!

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Originally posted by thecYrus i'll share some vanguard presets soon on my website..

hows this coming man? really excited to be able to use them

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Originally posted by qiushiming hows this coming man? really excited to be able to use them

it's online now: http://www.solarproject.ch/index.php?content=snddsgn

you can get very close to a supersaw without using the hypersaw oscillator. its just easier if you use it and they are slightly brighter than the normal saw oscillators.

i found that on my virus b, i had to add a high shelf EQ at the end of the signal chain to get a similar kind of brightness out of it. this was a high shelf at 10 khz that peaks at +7 dB.

you could probably use the in built EQ from the virus c.

the only problems i had were with the voice limit on virus b. 24 voices. with a TI it should be a walk in the park...

Hi,

Nobody at all who could post a TI Hypersaw audio demo to compare with the JP8000 demo I posted above (read my messages above)?! I especially would like to hear how bright it sounds when the filter goes full open and compares to the JP8000 which has very nice high frequencies.

If you have your TI connected to your PC and know a bit about sound design I don't think it will take very long to make an audio demo like this. I would really appreciate it if people with a TI could post such a demo (if you have no upload space use something like yousendit.com) cause my local music store still doesn't have a demo TI in there showroom and I would love to hear how it compares to the brighness of the JP8000.

Thanks to anybody who could do this!!

IF you want to size up oscillators you should probably ask for a sound sample of the raw hypersaw and supersaw oscillator, then filter sweep them with no resonance then 1/2 resonance etc.

then do the same with varying degrees of unison across 3 octaves. you can do it all in realtime as you are recording it.

I think only madstation over at the access virus forums bothered to do something like this with the supersaw for ben crosland to emulate a supersaw on virus. even then, i dont think he ever did do it.

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