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How do DJ's organize their CDs?

Hey I am about to convert from my Tech 1200's to CDJ 800s. I am gonna be sad to see them go and I love vinyl much more than CD but I am a college kid with no money and I can't afford vinyl. With that being said I am not sure how DJ's set up their mp3's on a CD. Do they do it like vinyl......like one song and it's remixes on one CD? Or do they put a couple songs on one CD that they know would never be played back to back? Or maybe one artist on one CD? I know this might be a really dumb question but I really have no idea.......I just wanna start doing it right when I burn CDs to spin.

Cheers

i don't use cd but imo you should organize cd by artist/label/sigle etc For me it will be easier dunno how for you;p

sorry to go off topic but since you know about djing with cd's, how do you go about buying your music? do most cd dj's download off the net and burn on to cd or do they buy singles? i cant imagine there being as many cd singles as there are 12 inch vinyls...

im just starting to mix with mp3s using VDJ (off p2p programs) but when i actually get serious about djing id like to know how to get by (obviously I wont be playing illegal mp3s...), thanks.

just make 2 copies of each cd and you can mix any track with any other.

this way I would put tracks of the same key on one cd to get a better overlook...

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Originally posted by RapidFire sorry to go off topic but since you know about djing with cd's, how do you go about buying your music? do most cd dj's download off the net and burn on to cd or do they buy singles? i cant imagine there being as many cd singles as there are 12 inch vinyls... im just starting to mix with mp3s using VDJ (off p2p programs) but when i actually get serious about djing id like to know how to get by (obviously I wont be playing illegal mp3s...), thanks.

they pay for the singles downloaded from net smth around 1.50$ i guess

ah, thought so. but that begs the question, how would one know wether their music is downloaded leagally or not?

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Originally posted by RapidFire ah, thought so. but that begs the question, how would one know wether their music is downloaded leagally or not?

By using the trusted websites, ie Beatport, AudioJelly, etc.

Whenever I purchase a bundle of tunes off of Beatport, I will burn them all to one CD, and make an exact copy of that CD. I will write on one piece of paper and use that as the tracklist and slip it into the CD case. If it's my third large purchase from Beatport, I will label the tl "3" and put 3 on each of the two discs, so I know which part of my case it will belong to.

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Originally posted by idoru By using the trusted websites, ie Beatport, AudioJelly, etc. Whenever I purchase a bundle of tunes off of Beatport, I will burn them all to one CD, and make an exact copy of that CD. I will write on one piece of paper and use that as the tracklist and slip it into the CD case. If it's my third large purchase from Beatport, I will label the tl "3" and put 3 on each of the two discs, so I know which part of my case it will belong to.

I think what RapidFire meant was after you downloaded and burn it to a cd-r. How do you know if that cd-r with the mp3 in it was obtained legally or not?

By printing out the receipt off email i'd imagine

Digital Djing law

have a read of this it might help you all it might not i dont know.

http://www.djmag.com/djtech016.php


its of the DJmag.com website


kind regards martin

i download from beatport

i only put one track per cd then write the artist and the title of the track on that one cd. it is easier for me when searching through my cd case. I just see the title, remember the track, ask myself will it go good with the track playing now, and if so, i bring it out and start cueing it up.

but everyone has their own ways...do whichever is best for u,,,,that is the best advice i can give u

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Originally posted by Lover Boy By printing out the receipt off email i'd imagine

so youd have to print out a receipt for every single song you download?? that seems a bit ridiculous...

and that article does answer some of my questions but not all of them. and is it just me or is it utterly pointless paying 200 pounds a year to play mp3s when it doesen't even prove wether they were legally obtained. nor does the fee profit the artist in case you are a leeching mp3 dj and dont pay for your music otherwise... or does that go for vinyl djs too?

edit: i guess in simplest terms what im asking is do people even care if you play illegal mp3s? and if so do they check and how?

The DJ booth thread on CD vs Vinyl covers this, governments care alot about copyright, funded by the music industry I imagine.

Play copied CD's in a club and sooner or later ur gonna get fucked.

You guys are so naive...seriously do you have any idea how many DJs play out at well known venues and use illegally downloaded tunes every week? its because DJs share their music, who do you think is ripping all this shit in the first place? I guarentee you its not some teenage internet goof that wants to expand his online rep so he rips all the promos he gets. HOW DO YOU THINK HE GETS THEM TO BEGIN WITH? I dont advocate playing pirated shit as I think the artist should always be rewarded for work, but I have no problem playing mp3s in my bedroom. And last time I checked the RIAA didnt have people in clubs checking out the cd booklets of resident djs. I bet they'd get thrown out by club management for even going in the booth uninvited...

i do one track per cd, including any different remixes i may want. but generally one title per cd. if you have more than one track on a cd it limits you as to the order of tracks you play.

I like to do three tracks per CD. I write the artist,title,remix,key,and BPM info on the CD with a permanent marker.

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Originally posted by Max Thomson You guys are so naive...seriously do you have any idea how many DJs play out at well known venues and use illegally downloaded tunes every week? its because DJs share their music, who do you think is ripping all this shit in the first place? I guarentee you its not some teenage internet goof that wants to expand his online rep so he rips all the promos he gets. HOW DO YOU THINK HE GETS THEM TO BEGIN WITH? I dont advocate playing pirated shit as I think the artist should always be rewarded for work, but I have no problem playing mp3s in my bedroom. And last time I checked the RIAA didnt have people in clubs checking out the cd booklets of resident djs. I bet they'd get thrown out by club management for even going in the booth uninvited...

What if you are stupid enough to play a white label track that the producer doesn't want being played yet? I bet then if someone hears the track played, and they know the producer, you could get into some trouble regarding copyrights. Read DJMag.com they sometimes have stories about DJs in Australia or Italy getting busted for playing illegally obtained tracks. It's rare but it's not like it doesn't happen. My friend got some tracks e-mailed to him by a guy who is down with Atomic Hooligan, but the guy stressed the importance to my friend of not playing them out anywhere becuase they were unreleased and that he could get in some stuff. Maybe you know better than I, but I'd rather pay $1.50 for a song instead of getting sued by a record label or producer.

what youre talking about are unreleased tracks though. theres no way of knowing if released ones are ilegally obtained...

I used to do about 5 or 6 tracks on a cd but in the end I have changed to having a single track on a cd.... or at least the various mixes of one track per cd.

I found that when in a club, if its dark it can be hard to read the label or I might want another track from the same cd.

At the end of the day, the issue wasn't really cost of cd's etc. It came down to the fact that even with 2 wallets full... say 128 cd wallets.... its still way more tracks than any DJ would carry in vinyl. So for me its simply a case of taking a couple of wallets with single tracks....

I put 5 tracks per cd with just the track title name in alphabetical order, no producer. Two copies of each stored one ontop of the other in my cd wallet so I remember which sleeve to put the cd in after ive used it and can freely play any track i want. burning 1 title per cd is a bad idea as you will use so many cds and need more and more sleeves/wallets as you accumulate musiic.

Yeah but if you use only 1 track per cd you can write the Name of the Track and it's key on big letters on it so you'll easily find it by it's name or key...

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Originally posted by Rockabye Yeah but if you use only 1 track per cd you can write the Name of the Track and it's key on big letters on it so you'll easily find it by it's name or key...

but you're also really defeating one of the biggest reasons to switch to digital, more music in less of a space

you'll have to carry 5 huge cd wallets with you because you've burned every song on a single cd

the double-disk option is the best

sometimes i burn a single track to a cd, i might be in a hurry to leave for the club and want that one new track for the night

it's your music, organise it and do with it what you want
you're the one going to be using it, as long as you know where your music is, who cares?

5 wallets??? I doubt it.... if you think that most wallets are around 128 cd's, are you trying to say that you would need 640 tunes for a DJ set?

When you used vinyl did you ever carry 640 records with you? No...

even with 2 wallets its still only a small bag to carry them. Any time I travel abroad I take a 60 vinyl bag with me which holds 2 cd wallets of tracks easy. It still has room for my laptop for working on. Not only does this mean I can take the bag on board with me but it means I don't need to worry about the airline losing the bag when I get there.


I think anyone that needs to carry that many cd's really should look at what they are taking to a venue. What are the chances of you actually playing half the tracks on the night... be ruthless and leave them behind.

Anyway... just my view on it

well one of the advantages of CDs is the ability to bring alot more music to your gig. Sure you may not use alot of it, but it gives you alot more possibilities to where your set will go instead of playing the same bunch of records over and over.
Anyway, in my case I spin anything from house to electro to techno so I like to decide what I am going to do when I get to the venue depending ont he atmosphere and with a good amount of cds, I have many possibilites ahead of me.

Guys 1 track per CD is still way better than having to lug around records. Plus the other adavantages of CD are still apparent like the PRICE. That's why I like CDs. They could be bigger than records but for $1.50 I'd still carry them around.

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