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Where's the outrage?
This is a good read. It clearly illustrates how the biases in this country cloud the reality of issues at hand.
Perhaps if most people saw things with such clear sight we'd have a different outcome this time around. Sadly people will believe just about anything the media tells them.
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Where's the liberal outrage? Please help me. I am on a mission to find liberal outrage over Liberal tax cuts and I am failing miserably. When federal Finance Minister Ralph Goodale announced $30 billion in tax cuts over the next six years in his recent mini-budget -- some of them retroactive -- I thought this was going to be a cinch. I thought the Toronto Star would be on Prime Minister Paul Martin the next day like ugly on a dog, thundering that tax cuts are unconscionable at a time when people are dying on waiting lists for surgery, when aboriginals are living in squalour on native reserves and when young people are being lost to a life of gangs and guns in Toronto. You know, like the Star does whenever a Conservative government introduces tax cuts. The Star's response in its editorial the next day? The headline was: "Martin's tax cuts steal Tory thunder." Let's put it this way. It somewhat failed to achieve the level of one of the Star's anti-Mike Harris diatribes. Then I thought that liberal media columnists, who are by no means confined to the Star, would dismiss these Liberal tax cuts as amounting to little more than a Big Mac a week for most of us, and that for a Big Mac a week, they weren't willing to watch the homeless starve and die on our streets. You know, like they do whenever a Conservative government introduces tax cuts. Then I waited for the CBC special quoting every left-wing academic it could find about how Martin must have been born in the age of the dinosaurs to propose tax cuts. You know, like it does whenever a Conservative government introduces tax cuts. Then I waited for the columns by criminology professors blaming tax cuts for the gang and gun violence in Toronto. You know, like they do whenever a Conservative government introduces tax cuts. Finally, I searched for complaints about Liberal tax cuts from non-governmental organizations (NGOs), charities, left-wing think tanks, community activists, feminists, union leaders, political action groups, and on and on. You know, like they do whenever a Conservative government introduces tax cuts. Once again, no luck. Here's why, I think. First, a lot of it is partisanship and bias, people who prefer a Liberal government to a Conservative one and thus hold Liberals to a different standard than Conservatives. Second, many people have come to think of the Liberals as the Liberals think of themselves, as the natural governing party of Canada, and thus, either consciously or unconsciously, allow the Liberals to frame the national debate on every major issue. If the Liberals say tax cuts are good when they deliver them, but bad when Conservatives deliver them, that's good enough for them. Third, many organizations that might normally criticize the Liberals over tax cuts are funded by the federal government and after 12 years of Liberal rule, have come to see the governnment and the Liberals as essentially the same thing. Thus they're reluctant to bite the hand that feeds them. Finally, there are those who, ideologically preferring Liberals to Conservatives, don't think the Liberals are serious about implementing the bulk of these tax cuts anyway, most of which won't kick in for several more years. (On this point, at least, we agree.) Anyway, I'm still searching for liberal outrage over tax cuts. Guess I'll just have to wait until Stephen Harper proposes them during the election. |
I am concerned about the Liberals change in philosophy regarding spending over the last few months.
The Liberal party is now -truely- a liberal gov't - on social issues and now on fiscal issues.
For the last 12 years, they've (the Liberals) been socially liberal but fiscally conservative. The last few months - they've spent like a typical Liberal would.
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Social liberalism is something I advocate. Fiscal liberalism is something I despise.
So the question is: Vote for the separatist-supporting Conservatives or the spend-happy Liberals? Tough coice.
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker So the question is: Vote for the separatist-supporting Conservatives or the spend-happy Liberals? Tough coice. |
RJ, please tell me *how* you think that the Conservatives could support the separationists any more than the Liberals already have? I mean specifically, what could they do that would further the separationist agenda?
We hear this every single election... the separationists start up their schtick again in order to get the Liberals re-elected because they know they'll be able to manipulate them.
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| Originally posted by rabbitjoker So the question is: Vote for the separatist-supporting Conservatives or the spend-happy Liberals? Tough coice. |
If the conservatives are working with the seperatists than now the NDP are in on it too.
And i guess the liberals were supporting the seperatists when they all voted together for same sex marriage?
Stop letting the chicken littles cloud your vision.
i refuse to vote conservative, and i choose not to vote liberal. and the ndp are fuck ups.
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| Originally posted by waynoinsano i refuse to vote conservative, and i choose not to vote liberal. and the ndp are fuck ups. |
by not voting at all u just voted liberal...
think about it that way.
Iam voting for Liberals 100%.
Every government in this world is corrupted one way or another including the Liberals.But by putting the conservative in charge will not make this country any better.So there is no fuckin way in hell that Iam voting for Harper.
I don't care about Canadian politics. I'm moving to France, where they love Muslims 
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| Originally posted by fayraree I don't care about Canadian politics. I'm moving to France, where they love Muslims |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer why go that far?just move south were they will welcome you with open jail cells |
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| Originally posted by fayraree Corrected |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer well I mean after all we do hate them for their freedom right? |
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| Originally posted by fayraree Yeah...I wish I had the freedom that Americans have...as long as they're not on "amber alert" or something... |
LOL!!!!
"every government is corrupt"
Well if thats how you feel then you will guaruntee that this will always be the case. If we punish a government for corruption the next one will think twice before doing something wrong. If we dont punish corruption it will get worse and worse.
Its a simple thing called classical conditioning and right now we are conditioning our politicians that they can get away with stealing. The result will be more stealing on a bigger level.
How can we punish a government when all the candidate choices are equally bad?
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| Originally posted by fayraree How can we punish a government when all the candidate choices are equally bad? |
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| Originally posted by fayraree How can we punish a government when all the candidate choices are equally bad? |
It's the political process of mud slinging...that makes me think they also sacrifice moral behaviour.
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| Originally posted by fayraree It's the political process of mud slinging...that makes me think they also sacrifice moral behaviour. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 what mud? they are attacking the government based on PROVEN corruption. Should they just not mention it then? |
yeah, yeah, it's true you say, but there's a better way to discuss these issues than pure name-calling
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| Originally posted by fayraree "organized crime" yeah, yeah, it's true you say, but there's a better way to discuss these issues than pure name-calling |
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