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Mentally handicapped having children?

Should mentally handicapped people have or be allowed to have children?

Feel free to explain your position, and no flaming someone for their perspective please.

Damnit, why didn't you add my option!?

If you're interested in questions like this - you should read the book:

Practical Ethics by Peter Singer

Peter Singer's remarkably clear and comprehensive Practical Ethics has become a classic introduction to applied ethics since its publication in 1979 and has been translated into many languages. For this second edition the author has revised all the existing chapters, added two new ones, and updated the bibliography. He has also added an appendix describing some of the deep misunderstanding of and consequent violent reaction to the book in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland where the book has tested the limits of freedom of speech. The focus of the book is the application of ethics to difficult and controversial social questions.

Read this for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Singer

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Why not? Usually its a fluke that they are that way, not heriditary.

- Jayx1

This isn't really the concern I am addressing.

What I would like to know is, do you think a mentally handicapped person is capable of raising a child?

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker If you're interested in questions like this - you should read the book: Practical Ethics by Peter Singer Peter Singer's remarkably clear and comprehensive Practical Ethics has become a classic introduction to applied ethics since its publication in 1979 and has been translated into many languages. For this second edition the author has revised all the existing chapters, added two new ones, and updated the bibliography. He has also added an appendix describing some of the deep misunderstanding of and consequent violent reaction to the book in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland where the book has tested the limits of freedom of speech. The focus of the book is the application of ethics to difficult and controversial social questions.

What is his point on this? and yours?

no

Edit: I'd add stupid people to this as well, but unfortunately we don't have the means to weed those out yet.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur no

Why not?

I am a little on the fence with this one myself.

I am unsure if I think it would be right to enforce a rule of not allowing a mentally handicapped individual to have a child. However, ************, I do not think that a mentally handicapped person is at the capacity to raise another life, and therefore should not have kids.

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Originally posted by Theresa - Jayx1 This isn't really the concern I am addressing. What I would like to know is, do you think a mentally handicapped person is capable of raising a child?

well it takes 2 to make a baby. On top of that look at all the welfare mothers the state supports. Why should mentally handicapped be treated differently?

What if someone suggested that single mothers on welfare have their tubes tied?

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Originally posted by Theresa Why not?

My parents are in well mental health (well, they were before they had me and my sister), and even they're struggling with us. There are a lot of mental handicaps, ranging from severe to not so severe. Instead of trying to figure out what is severe or not to be able to have children, I'm putting on a blanket statement not allowing anybody diagnosed as mentally unstable to have children. Yes, it puts a minority at a disadvantage, but life ain't fair.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 well it takes 2 to make a baby. On top of that look at all the welfare mothers the state supports. Why should mentally handicapped be treated differently? What if someone suggested that single mothers on welfare have their tubes tied?

See, another point I am not addressing. I don't care how they fair financially, I am talking about their abilty to rear a child. I don't think someone who is mentally unstable can raise a child properly.

My viewpoint is the same across the board (handicapped or not)

One should only have a child if they posses the financial capacity to raise the child through to independence with an average/above standard of living.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker My viewpoint is the same across the board (handicapped or not) One should only have a child if they posses the financial capacity to raise the child through to independence with an average/above standard of living.

So in other words, so long as they have money? It doesn't matter if they are fit to be a parent, and are even able to teach basic ethics?

Post your view so we can disect it...

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Originally posted by Theresa So in other words, so long as they have money? It doesn't matter if they are fit to be a parent, and are even able to teach basic ethics?

in effect though, he's kinda right. What are the odds of a mentally unwell person being 'well off' in this world? and if they are, that means they are able to function properly in our world if they are making that kind of moneys. And if they are able to function properly, they can teach their kids to function properly. Hence, they should be allowed to have kids.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Post your view so we can disect it...

I already did. And I am not vying to disect, I am just very curious as to how people view this.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur in effect though, he's kinda right. What are the odds of a mentally unwell person being 'well off' in this world? and if they are, that means they are able to function properly in our world if they are making that kind of moneys. And if they are able to function properly, they can teach their kids to function properly. Hence, they should be allowed to have kids.

Ahh but of course there would be exceptions to this.

Perhaps the mentally handicapped person won the lottery, or had the money inherited?

And even if they did have money, that still doesn't necessarily mean that they are capable of raising a child well.

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Originally posted by Theresa See, another point I am not addressing. I don't care how they fair financially, I am talking about their abilty to rear a child. I don't think someone who is mentally unstable can raise a child properly.

define mentally unstable? i know a lot of people who arent mentally fit to raise a child yet would not be considered mentally handicapped.

Allowing the state to decide who can and cannot reproduce is a scary thought.

If that ever happens then im moving for sure. I dont want to live in a country like that.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker My viewpoint is the same across the board (handicapped or not) One should only have a child if they posses the financial capacity to raise the child through to independence with an average/above standard of living.

Go Rev. Thomas Chalmers!

Which is why I make a blanket 'no' statement. Better safe than sorry. Screw you liberals.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 define mentally unstable? i know a lot of people who arent mentally fit to raise a child yet would not be considered mentally handicapped. Allowing the state to decide who can and cannot reproduce is a scary thought. If that ever happens then im moving for sure. I dont want to live in a country like that.

Someone who is "Mentally handicapped".

Perhaps someone with Down Syndrome, or Schizophrenia. Manic Depression, or something of the like.

And if the state doesn't stop these people from HAVING the children initially, they will end up taking the child away later (most likely) anyway. So what is the better option?

Handicapped people with mental deficiency mostly not able to give birth because they born sterile.

Mother nature...

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Originally posted by Theresa Someone who is "Mentally handicapped". Perhaps someone with Down Syndrome, or Schizophrenia. Manic Depression, or something of the like.

Schizophrenia is not a serious mental illness

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Originally posted by Theresa Someone who is "Mentally handicapped". Perhaps someone with Down Syndrome, or Schizophrenia. Manic Depression, or something of the like. And if the state doesn't stop these people from HAVING the children initially, they will end up taking the child away later (most likely) anyway. So what is the better option?

ok so what if the person has a mild form? Or what if the state starts to use that method to falsify their diagnosis against people in order to prevent them from having kids? Or what if some day after that precedent has been passed we expand it to other diseases?

No thanks. I dont want to live in hitler's germany, But thanks anyways.

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Originally posted by Transmotion Handicapped people with mental deficiency mostly not able to give birth because they born sterile. Mother nature...

VERY untrue.

I have worked in and have visited several psyche wards, and have met many "mentally handicapped" people with children. I am not sure where you get this information, but I know that there are enough out there that are certainly abled.

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