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Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-30-2005 03:12:

Idea Ok now that Mike is Mayor again...

could it be possible to host an event like let's say Love Parade, Creamfields, Homelands, etc.

There are tons of areas that can host it.
Flushing Meadows
Great Lawn
Brooklyn Bridge
Floyd Bennett Field

just to name a few.

What kind of logistics are we talking here. If the city can host the likes of Dave Matthews Band or the US Open they can host these types of parties. Or if they can host some silly orange curtains hanging in CP they can do this stuff too.

This city has lots of open spaces that do not get used.

Imagine if EMD artists played on the Great Lawn....or the Love Parade under the Unisphere in Flushing Meadows.


Posted by MattDomestik on Nov-30-2005 15:46:

After attending a concert at Keyspan Park in Coney Island, I think that would be a great venue for a medium scale EDM event.

Transit hubs right there, alot of parking, Boardwalk, beach, the baseball staduim could be used as a main stage there are huge open air walkways around it for ample dance floor room. There is also a huge tented area and synthetic playing field in the back that could be used for smaller stages.


Posted by Lepanto on Nov-30-2005 15:52:

I think the very best place to do this wold be the Floyd Benning Field. It's not anywhere near a train but there are a few buses that go there. Extremely easy to find if driving, located far from any residential buildings. Furthermore, you could charter a couple of shuttle buses to take you from a local large train station for like 5 bucks a person and that will raise massive amounts of money. would be great for the city.


Posted by DJ Eco on Nov-30-2005 16:19:

"electronic music" is a bad word here in NYC apparently... of course with an event like that, youd get DJs like Jonathan Peters on the bill and with DJs like Jonathan Peters on the bill, you got a lot of rowdy drugged up kids running around wherever they would throw this event. most people will say, "cmon, youre generalizing", but no, thats what would end up happening... if not JP, then Boris. it'd be a repeat of Ultra Music Festival with 90% house.... and Oakenfold of course id hope for it to be otherwise but i dont tthink this city would ever dare to do something like that... which is funny considering there was a study done which said that theres a larger rate of drug use at concerts and rock events than at clubs... which is funny considering all my rock friends call my music "drug music" and yet, theyre all pot heads and use wierd drugs... thats just the "state of the union" for now, i would hope for it to change and have a nice event like SF Love Parade did... huge DJ lineup, i was amazed at the DJs they brought this year...


Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Nov-30-2005 17:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
"electronic music" is a bad word here in NYC apparently... of course with an event like that, youd get DJs like Jonathan Peters on the bill and with DJs like Jonathan Peters on the bill, you got a lot of rowdy drugged up kids running around wherever they would throw this event. most people will say, "cmon, youre generalizing", but no, thats what would end up happening... if not JP, then Boris. it'd be a repeat of Ultra Music Festival with 90% house.... and Oakenfold of course id hope for it to be otherwise but i dont tthink this city would ever dare to do something like that... which is funny considering there was a study done which said that theres a larger rate of drug use at concerts and rock events than at clubs... which is funny considering all my rock friends call my music "drug music" and yet, theyre all pot heads and use wierd drugs... thats just the "state of the union" for now, i would hope for it to change and have a nice event like SF Love Parade did... huge DJ lineup, i was amazed at the DJs they brought this year...


yea the SF loveparade is gettin better every year !! but i really dont see NYC hosting Love Parade because of the fact that like eco said it would just bring some of the horrible crowds along with their dj's, maybe somethin at the meadows though that would b very interesting since the space is huge.


Posted by Lepanto on Nov-30-2005 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
"electronic music" is a bad word here in NYC apparently... of course with an event like that, youd get DJs like Jonathan Peters on the bill and with DJs like Jonathan Peters on the bill, you got a lot of rowdy drugged up kids running around wherever they would throw this event. most people will say, "cmon, youre generalizing", but no, thats what would end up happening... if not JP, then Boris. it'd be a repeat of Ultra Music Festival with 90% house.... and Oakenfold of course id hope for it to be otherwise but i dont tthink this city would ever dare to do something like that... which is funny considering there was a study done which said that theres a larger rate of drug use at concerts and rock events than at clubs... which is funny considering all my rock friends call my music "drug music" and yet, theyre all pot heads and use wierd drugs... thats just the "state of the union" for now, i would hope for it to change and have a nice event like SF Love Parade did... huge DJ lineup, i was amazed at the DJs they brought this year...


first of rock music is usually hightened by pot or LSD use. that's about it. i have a ton of CDs especially for LSD use, one of my fav called Pocrupine Tree - Voyage 34: The complete trip. While, ravers and clubbers generally use E along with bud and acid. So you can't say one group does more than the other since they do different shit. I'd say E is much worse for you than pot is.

Second of all, JP and Boris thing you're probably right about but NYC gets ALOT of great DJs come through who I'm sure wouldn't mind doing a good event. Furthermore, if it's being promoted and thrown by a good company the event could be great.

The only problem that faces NYC's edm scence is that there's no edm scene, or a very little one. mostly it's a bunch of kids who go to clubs to do drugs and "rave" while listening to armin and screaming about how unbelievable shivers is.


Posted by SpinMars on Nov-30-2005 17:22:

I read in a NY Times article that they city would never do an event such as the DMB playing at the Great Lawn again b/c it cost the city millions of dollars in damage done to the grass and other things that were knocked down, clean-up, etc. So for there to be an electronic DANCE music event in Central Park other than Rumsey Playfield wouldn't happen. It's contained and fenced off from the rich Upper East Siders.
And yes, I agree with "electronic music" being frowned upon in NYC. If Bloomie takes away cabaret licenses in bars, he wouldn't tolerate such dance events in his beloved city. On the other hand,Gavin Newsom, being the liberal democrat mayor that he is, doesn't mind the Love Parade strolling through SF...but let's not get into politics.


Posted by stevebutabi on Nov-30-2005 17:40:

forget a festival, give me 8 hours of sasha & digweed in any park, any field, whatever. do it in a f'n basement, i don't care.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Nov-30-2005 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi
forget a festival, give me 8 hours of sasha & digweed in any park, any field, whatever. do it in a f'n basement, i don't care.


TWILO WE MISS YOU!


Posted by hitokiri on Nov-30-2005 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
TWILO WE MISS YOU!
oh stop u
go watch the vid i sent u then since u miss it so much tho what i wouldn t do to be there when lawler was playin that track ....sigh..


Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-30-2005 21:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
I think the very best place to do this wold be the Floyd Benning Field. It's not anywhere near a train but there are a few buses that go there. Extremely easy to find if driving, located far from any residential buildings. Furthermore, you could charter a couple of shuttle buses to take you from a local large train station for like 5 bucks a person and that will raise massive amounts of money. would be great for the city.


Good idea since the field is as large as JFK. And far away from neighbors complaining about the noise.

But the moment they host another non-EDM concert on the Great Lawn I'm gonna flip.


Posted by Lepanto on Nov-30-2005 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Good idea since the field is as large as JFK. And far away from neighbors complaining about the noise.

But the moment they host another non-EDM concert on the Great Lawn I'm gonna flip.


i see absolutely no reason why it can't be held at the field. the only problem as i've said would be the ride there but if you set up shuttles you make even more money.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-30-2005 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
i see absolutely no reason why it can't be held at the field. the only problem as i've said would be the ride there but if you set up shuttles you make even more money.


I didn't say any event should not be held there. I list it as a choice.

What I am saying is that the Great Lawn, for example, is an ideal spot for an EDM event.

But of course the residents in the area around the park will complain about the noise and crowds.

The way I look at it is that my taxes keep the place clean and accessible just as much as those on CPW or 5th Ave who probably hire good accountants to find them tax loopholes.

And I better not see Dave Matthews or some idiot with saffron colored curtains get first choice of Central Park while us NYTA's have to stay stuck in Rumsey again.

When PVD last played the park there were hundreds of people outside of the park with no tickets and I thought what a shame the venue was too small.


Posted by Lepanto on Nov-30-2005 23:20:

i didn't say you disagree with me. i just said FBF is the best thing out there. i'm going to look into this. post back in a couple of days.


Posted by RoBDaWG on Dec-01-2005 03:01:

I got into electronic music because of JP, but still... JP = tons of meth heads


Posted by RoBDaWG on Dec-01-2005 03:03:

I don't know if any of you guys remember it... but do you know what Boo was? It was a rave on Randall's Island... all day long, it was awsome, they had it for like 5 years, no more though.


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Dec-01-2005 03:22:

How about the George Washington Bridge? That is one beautiful bridge.

Let's not forget Central Park or Flushing Meadows Park in Queens. That is also another big festival type park.


Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Dec-01-2005 03:22:

quote:
Originally posted by RoBDaWG
I don't know if any of you guys remember it... but do you know what Boo was? It was a rave on Randall's Island... all day long, it was awsome, they had it for like 5 years, no more though.


yea i heard of it, had some of the sickest lineup too!! its too bad i missed those events i never actually went to Boo thou


Posted by SebG on Dec-01-2005 04:09:

Its all about the politics.


Posted by Trancer-X on Dec-01-2005 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by RoBDaWG
I don't know if any of you guys remember it... but do you know what Boo was? It was a rave on Randall's Island... all day long, it was awsome, they had it for like 5 years, no more though.


I still have those big ass Boo flyers.

They also hosted the Sixth Element Electronic Music Festival on Randall's Island, back in 2000.


Posted by Trancer-X on Dec-01-2005 04:42:

quote:
Originally posted by SebG
Its all about the politics.


Exactly!


Posted by ogvh5150 on Dec-01-2005 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
i didn't say you disagree with me. i just said FBF is the best thing out there. i'm going to look into this. post back in a couple of days.


Stop Dave..

My mind is going....

Daisy
Daisy
Give me your answer do...

quote:
Originally posted by RoBDaWG
I don't know if any of you guys remember it... but do you know what Boo was? It was a rave on Randall's Island... all day long, it was awsome, they had it for like 5 years, no more though.


I remember it when I first started getting into EDM. I saw the poster in a 24 hour store around the corner from Noize on 14th and Parsons back in 97 or 98.
They just rebuilt the stadium on Randalls and renamed it Icahn Stadium. That's probably one of the reasons Boo ended at that venue.

Boo 7 was the last Boo at Randalls and Boo 8 was the last Boo altogether, which was hosted at Webster Hall.

By the way whatever happened to stuck on earth anyway?

quote:
Originally posted by SebG
Its all about the politics.


That was obvious. Show me an honest politician and I'll show you an oxymoron.


Posted by phuzzyfish12 on Dec-01-2005 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
I didn't say any event should not be held there. I list it as a choice.

What I am saying is that the Great Lawn, for example, is an ideal spot for an EDM event.

But of course the residents in the area around the park will complain about the noise and crowds.

The way I look at it is that my taxes keep the place clean and accessible just as much as those on CPW or 5th Ave who probably hire good accountants to find them tax loopholes.

And I better not see Dave Matthews or some idiot with saffron colored curtains get first choice of Central Park while us NYTA's have to stay stuck in Rumsey again.

When PVD last played the park there were hundreds of people outside of the park with no tickets and I thought what a shame the venue was too small.



I actually like Dave Matthews and when he played on the Great Lawn is was to charity. The Parks departments have limited the number of events that take place on the Great Lawn to preserve it. As mentioned later in this thread Randells' Island (where Dave played this summer) would be a great place to hold and EDM event like you are talking about.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Dec-01-2005 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
I actually like Dave Matthews and when he played on the Great Lawn is was to charity. The Parks departments have limited the number of events that take place on the Great Lawn to preserve it. As mentioned later in this thread Randells' Island (where Dave played this summer) would be a great place to hold and EDM event like you are talking about.

I went to DMB in Central Park. It was very poorly run, especially for a free concert (with recommended donation of at least $25, maybe even $50, don't really remember). You had to get tickets in advance, and that's when you were given the option of donating to an AOL schools charity. There was a 2 hour line to get in, because there was only one entrance on each side of the park and they were checking tickets. When you got in, I couldn't even really see where the stage was (but they did have like 8 huge screens running back the Great Lawn. If any EDM event is run like that, I'd rather not go anyhow. Imagine how bad the lines would be since they'd be checking everyone for drugs, which they didn't do at DMB (and god, there was SOOOO much pot being smoked there, there was literally a haze over the Lawn).

Oh, and apparently the Lawn got destroyed, too, and cost a lot to fix.


Posted by Lepanto on Dec-01-2005 12:22:

Ok whoever mentioned Central Park needs to go back to other page and read. Or, could it be, on this page? lol you need a secluded area like FBF, or randal's. Also, if we build up our city as a club city again, they it was in the mid 90's or so. it would drive more tourists back to NYC thus fulfulling Mr.Bloombers plans for full revitalization of NYC.


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