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Posted by MASTER AL on Dec-01-2005 08:18:

Need to learn

Im going crazy i need to learn how to spin..but as a beginner whats recommended to start with Vinyl or CDJ? and any other tips you guys could give me would be helpful

Posted by D-res on Dec-01-2005 08:20:

i'd start with vinyl. its essentially more expensive but i think its more beneficial because atleast in my opinion, its easier to learn to spin CD than vinyl so starting on CD and becoming good, say hypothetically you get a gig and they have only turntables, you're fucked..

techincs are the classic top choice but i think the stanton STR8 150 or whatever they're called are the best available

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-01-2005 08:30:

Vinyl! For all the reasons d-res said, and its just so much more fun as well!

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WHoa, now im dizzy!

Posted by MASTER AL on Dec-01-2005 08:37:

thnx i appreciate all the help..guys convinced me already Vinyl it is. now i gotta learn

Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-01-2005 09:02:

quote:
Originally posted by MASTER AL
thnx i appreciate all the help..guys convinced me already Vinyl it is. now i gotta learn

When i still lived in Peru, me and a bunch of buddies all started spinning within 6 months of each other, and we all started with vinyl, we all were fairly strapped for cash, had under 50 vinyls for a long time, no cd players, nothing, but i bet myself and those guys are better now becayse of the experience with vinyl. i would hate to be a dj who had neevr spun with vinyl. It wouldnt seem right. I think having mixed with vinyl first makes you a better dj on cds as well, i was able to properly mix with cds after a a couple hours after 6 months of vinyl behind me, I know people who have started with cds who cant mix with vinyl properly after hours and hours of practice on all sorts of decks.

In the end most everyone who starts with vinyl will end up using both, but i think the guys who started on vinyl are better off.

Posted by T-Soma on Dec-01-2005 11:03:

Get final scratch or serato scratch live.
That way you wont regret not getting cdjs and you wont regret not getting turntables.
Its the best of both worlds -Simple.

Posted by alligator on Dec-01-2005 17:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Get final scratch or serato scratch live.
That way you wont regret not getting cdjs and you wont regret not getting turntables.
Its the best of both worlds -Simple.

+1...very true

Posted by discobiscuit on Dec-01-2005 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by alligator
+1...very true

bingo! they are expensive programs, but after you get the turntables, you can start saving for them...

personally, i would rather get 2 turntables, a laptop, and final/serato scratch over two cdj turntables....

correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldnt 2 tt's, a laptop, and final scratch cost the same as 2 cdj1000's? those shits are expensive!

Posted by MASTER AL on Dec-01-2005 22:38:

yeah the cdj's are very expensive, seems like vinyl is the best place to start..any other tips on how i should aproach learning to spin?

Posted by Rebel Brown on Dec-01-2005 23:01:

Read.

Read a LOT.

When I started spinning I would spend hours upon hours reading tutorials and reviews and whatever from as many different sources as I could. Even if the majority of the stuff on the net is very similar, there will be one or two sites that give you a tip that you haven't seen before. Of course, all of this information won't meant jack shit unless you practice a lot, but knowledge is power.

Posted by T-Soma on Dec-01-2005 23:02:

Dont forget software aswell.
If you get software you definitly need a midi controller so you can have hands on controll or else you gonna have two problem.
1- "Hey that guys play solitare not mixing!"
2- Your gonna feel bored using mousing>click...

Iv got software+turntables so i can switch between turntables and pc. The problem with starting just on turntables is that you run out of money and get bored of having 20 of the same records for what seems like ever.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Dec-01-2005 23:19:

I would actually recomend you start with vinyl otherwise you will miss lots of skills like 'reading the record' and various degrees of fine manipulation and just the general feel of the music.

It's also a lot easier to get passionate about vinyl than CDs or MP3s.

I tend to disagree with the comment on FS and Serato though, I really don't see it as being the best of both worlds, I tend to regard it as getting the basics of both worlds more than anything else. If you are going to spend that sort of money you are better off spending it on some quality tunes rather than the FS setup. Not saying it's a bad product or anything.

From my own perspective I like to see what's going on in the record and have a hands on feel. People are different though and like different things.

CDJs would be the other logical step if you don't want to go with vinyl. Similar skill set but I find that they are more forgiving than vinyl and may not teach you as much in some ways but would open up your creativity in plenty of others.

I wouldn't go with Ableton or similar as you wont really be tapping into the full spirit of DJing with these tools. I would really only recomend them to someone with proffesional needs that require these tools and probably not even then. Watching someone who is good with vinyl is a lot more interesting than any of the other options.

That's just my two �s worth.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by Max Thomson on Dec-01-2005 23:43:

cds

Posted by ChoBo on Dec-07-2005 18:08:

other than equipment i cant stress how important patience and desire is

Posted by MASTER AL on Dec-07-2005 22:36:

thats why past two years seeing djs performing and lookin at the way they spin how they know what every single little detail does just amazes me and especially looking at the crowd seeing them feed off your performance is beautiful. my dad my bro play istruments i see my self spinning some records. thnx for everyone input, it helped. i just need someone to show me some basics to get started off and ill pick up the rest on my own.

Posted by s3nate on Dec-08-2005 00:52:

Posted by discobiscuit on Dec-08-2005 01:16:

"Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Get final scratch or serato scratch live.
That way you wont regret not getting cdjs and you wont regret not getting turntables.
Its the best of both worlds -Simple."

yeah man this does seem like your best option. I know its a matter of opinion cd vs vinyl, but this does give you the medium between the two. I prefer vinyl because it is more of an art. Its a lot more hands on and it takes more skill. i think using cdj's would be borring, but i havent ever tried them though... i think serato is a great product which lets vinyl dj's move to the next level without getting cdj's.

Posted by Tony Morello on Dec-08-2005 01:27:

learn to walk before running

start with the basics, go from there

vinyl with a simple 2 channel mixer will teach you the fundamentals quickly

Posted by MASTER AL on Dec-08-2005 02:09:

yea for sure thats where im gonna start get 2 descent tables and a mixer..saw a stanton setup for 399 at guitar center i might pick that up

Posted by Rockabye on Dec-08-2005 10:14:

What's the reason for you to learn djing? When did this idea came up to you?

I think you should try to do some mixes with software to see if you have a good ear and a feeling for rhythm. It's not very smart to buy expensive equipment without knowing anything about mixing. Wouldn't be so good if you recognize that you have no talent for this...

You should really be sure about your decision, because if you just wanna make mixes for yourself and your friends software mixing would be the cheapest and easiest solution...

Or do you really LOVE music and trane in special? Do you really have a huge passion for it?

Do you listen to livesets and mix-cds often so that you have at least a small idea of what a DJ does there?

Are you good on doing things alone and finding your OWN way? Because people can give you suggestions about mixing but in the end it's just you and the turntables/cd decks/software...

Posted by hitokiri on Dec-08-2005 11:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
What's the reason for you to learn djing? When did this idea came up to you?

I think you should try to do some mixes with software to see if you have a good ear and a feeling for rhythm. It's not very smart to buy expensive equipment without knowing anything about mixing. Wouldn't be so good if you recognize that you have no talent for this...

You should really be sure about your decision, because if you just wanna make mixes for yourself and your friends software mixing would be the cheapest and easiest solution...

Or do you really LOVE music and trane in special? Do you really have a huge passion for it?

Do you listen to livesets and mix-cds often so that you have at least a small idea of what a DJ does there?

Are you good on doing things alone and finding your OWN way? Because people can give you suggestions about mixing but in the end it's just you and the turntables/cd decks/software...
excellent questions to think about before starting on this expensive (yet enjoyable) hobby tho i would go with vinyls imo its the best way to learn the art of djing especially learning the technical aspects of djing then once you get the basics down which will take time depending on how much you practice then you can move on to more creative parts which imo would then be cdjs (sides vinyls sound better than cds )

Posted by MASTER AL on Dec-08-2005 18:49:

Very good questions..YES i am very passionate about music anywhere i go anything i do im listening to music. i come down from a line of musicians my dad my brother all play instruments and i see myself spinning..when i do listen to sets i listen very closely, i pay attention to everysingle detail that makes the music..i got very interested in djing when i was standing next to Sasha at avalon..and i have messed around with ableton a little bit but i see no fun in it. i am that kind of person put something in front of me show me a little bit of basics and ill pick it up all on my own..when i put my mind to something i dont give up..i need to get good at whatever im doing...im not buying new equipment getting some used tables...but other than that i am going crazy i just really really want to learn how to spin for myself.

Posted by Tony Morello on Dec-09-2005 02:09:

check out ebay for good prices on used tech 12s or an equal table (i prefer the numark ttx as an alternative to the tech 12s)

start with a good table right away and you won't need to upgrade in the future
seeing as you come from a musical family, i'm sure you'll pick this up quick and you'll be held back very quickly by a starter table

and if you decide this isn't right for you, high end tables retain their resale value better and can sometimes sell for more than you bought them for

the numark dxm-06 is a good starter mixer, it's basic with everything you need and it comes with built in effects once you get beatmatching down and want to spice up your sets

Posted by tdurden on Dec-12-2005 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44

It's also a lot easier to get passionate about vinyl than CDs or MP3s.

Nem

I couldn't agree more!

Posted by MSZ on Jan-13-2006 19:34:

look around localy in some sort of city buy and sells. i found 2 technincs for 550 cdn using this method.

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