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Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-04-2002 17:59:

File-Sharing progs...(SPYWARE)

Hey guys....well, i just found this article....i think it's true cuz it has been an issue from a long time. I don't know what to think tho....
read below or here's the URL:
http://www.intelligentx.com/newslet...ch7_010402.html

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Music Sharing Programs Share Advertiser's 'Trojan' Spyware

"Spyware" - software that can secretly collect data about an individual's use of their PC - has been a controversial issue for companies as large as Microsoft Corp. But a mysterious outfit that may be located in Las Vegas could be the first to have its software branded as a malicious Trojan by anti-virus companies.

Many users of peer-to-peer file sharing software, including the Gnutella gateways LimeWire and BearShare and the FastTrack-based Grokster and Kazaa/Morpheus, are learning this week that promotional software bundled with their applications appeared to be reporting their online activities to a Web site registered to a man with a Las Vegas address.
Anti-virus firms such as Symantec and F-Secure say that software that was billed as installing desktop shortcuts for a promotion called ClickTillUWin also secretly installed a Trojan program that later downloaded and installed additional software - the actual spyware - from a remote Web server.

Some anti-virus software, such as Symantec's Norton AntiVirus were reporting labeling the ClickTillUWin software as" Backdoor.Trojan" before Dec.29, when the security companies began updating their virus definitions to give the strange code its own moniker: DlDer.

F-Secure said that DlDer is a two-fisted Trojan that begins with the installation of the file "dlder.exe" - an installation that can occur even if the unwitting user says "No" to a prompt requesting permission to add the ClickTillUWin shortcuts.

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Posted by Fir3start3r on Jan-04-2002 18:03:

There's a couple of programs that I use for this type of stuff...
Popup Killer and Ad-Aware...
You should be able to find those easy enough...but if you can't just let me know...
[email protected]

Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-04-2002 18:09:

yea...but i think the problem deals with progs runnning in the background, acting as ADs, but i could be wrong.
THX for the info tho...

Posted by Fir3start3r on Jan-04-2002 18:13:

There's a couple of programs that I use for this type of stuff...
Popup Killer and Ad-Aware...
You should be able to find those easy enough...but if you can't just let me know...
[email protected]

Posted by Widget on Jan-04-2002 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
There's a couple of programs that I use for this type of stuff...
Popup Killer and Ad-Aware...
You should be able to find those easy enough...but if you can't just let me know...
[email protected]

Those programs won't work for this. It's not a popup ad or anything like that. Basically programs could be spying on you even with those programs.

I saw another article which told you what to look for. It was a hidden folder in your windows/ directory. Can't remember exactly what the folder was though. Started with an "E"

- A.

Posted by dOgMa55 on Jan-05-2002 00:26:

Could it possibly have been Ezula? This program keeps on giving me shit... Just a guess though. Anywho, i use ZoneAlarm to monitor anything using my internet connection so i always know whats going on... You should all do the same.

Posted by Photo_bot_2k1 on Jan-05-2002 01:40:

those programs have way too much spyware in them

i downloaded kazza looing for an alternative to AG
and i ran ad-aware right after i installed it

it found like 2 or 3 spyware progs!!

Posted by davinox on Jan-05-2002 01:52:

Yeah, if anyone can find a prog. to get rid of em....
And the sad thing is... Morpheus said like 6 months ago that the prog's new vers. had no spyware, those lying bastards!!!
Maybe that's what caused all that German Porno to pop up every hour on my screen! had to wipe the harddrive to get rid of it.
and i wanna keep using Morpheus, cuz that's how i get my warez.

Posted by Zombie0915 on Jan-05-2002 03:16:

I got rid of all my spywayre a little while back. One suggestion I have is BE CAREFUL. I deleted webhancer and it took me 4 days to figure out how to get my internet connection working again. It had something to dowith removing the stuff from the registry, since I never mess around in there I didn't know how to do it. But clear that shit up. Its just as bad as a lot of the viruses out there, just ran by corporations. I'm really sick of being forcefed BullShit personally, not just ads like this but everywhere.

Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-05-2002 08:25:

there must be a safer way to remove those progs (viruses).....
I'm not sure, but i think Anti-Virus companies might be coming up with i solution...but that might take some time..
Personally....i can't stand the fact that i'm bieng watched...
This sucks.....

Posted by flystyler on Jan-05-2002 10:53:

There is a past thread about this, i will let you search for it, but there is a program that finds the spyware files, but the problem is some progrmas wont run without the spyware stuff

Posted by Kia Kaha on Jan-05-2002 11:18:

You have to be nuts not to have a firewall installed these days anyway, there's so many good ones out there that are free.

I've got tiny personal firewall and it seems to work fine, it's dead simple, it doesn't stop the spyware from getting onto your system but it can at least render it harmless by stopping it from connecting to whatever fuckin ad server it's trying to connect to.

Posted by flystyler on Jan-05-2002 11:42:

Yes, but for us 56k that is a bit of a waste of time

Posted by Xavier on Jan-05-2002 12:03:

You must use Ad-Aware to remove the spyware, if you will remove it manually the left over registry files for the spyware will take revenge by deleting some system files with it. I know this from experience. Also it would be terrible if you are on a LAN network and one computer is the host...the host will get nuked, by the spyware as spyware takes revenge if you delete it(if not deleted by Ad-Aware)that would mean you'd have to fix 2 computers the host and the comp that had spyware...if this happens you must re-install windows or if worse format your HD then re-install windows.

Posted by jon on Jan-05-2002 13:01:

Personally I use zonealarm as I can deciede what gets to use the net and what doesnt. I also run ad aware after running any program i suspect to contain spyware.

At the end of the day spyware is the way these programs make money, as they are distributed freeley and how many of us clicks on a advert on the programs homepage??? Its just their way of making money.

If you want to get mps's over ther net without using these progs you can use the newsgroups if ur isp supports the binares ones. goto alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 for a few! or else webpages!

Jon

Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-05-2002 21:21:

Anyone know where i can get a good, new, clean copy of ZONEALARM ?
Do any of you reccommend it???

Posted by Spad on Jan-05-2002 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranex02
Anyone know where i can get a good, new, clean copy of ZONEALARM ?
Do any of you reccommend it???

Zonealarm is freeware, just download it from the official site. I trust you can find that yourself It's very handy at spotting spware because obviously everything needs permission from youself before it can access the internet. So as long are you're careful there's no probs.

You should also download a copy of ad-aware and periodically scan your HD for spyware. It's s very good program, the scan doesn't take long and it removes anything dodgy safely and without any hassle. It's very surprising how quickly spyware builds up though. I do a scan every week or so and it usually finds a coupole of things.

Posted by jon on Jan-05-2002 22:56:

Ive just added ad-aware to my start up group - it runs evertime i run windows now and kills of the spyware!

jon

Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-06-2002 07:55:

ok..will do

BTW....will zonealarm slow down your connection speed or your PC performance?? cuz it has to monitor everything..right????

Posted by plastikE on Jan-07-2002 01:03:

check out these two links for more info:

http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/dlder.shtml

http://forums.anandtech.com/message...=668900&STARTPA

hope this helps

Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-07-2002 02:49:

Thanks

Posted by jon on Jan-07-2002 11:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranex02
ok..will do

BTW....will zonealarm slow down your connection speed or your PC performance?? cuz it has to monitor everything..right????

No, have been using it for ages, the only thing that could slow it down is when a you install a new program that requires internet acess and it asks you permission if you want to allow it to use the internet and all you say is yes or no!

The program its self doesnt use alot of cpu power, and you can stop auto update programs etc running when your browsing so it can free up your internet conection for the things you want!!

jon

Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-08-2002 01:13:

thx for the info!

Posted by bAnks on Jan-08-2002 20:51:

I have a suggestion I use it and its quite a good prog... even open source.....and NO SPYWARE check it out

http://www.gnucleus.net/