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Posted by Ryan0751 on Dec-02-2005 02:08:

Try this for a total mind F!@K exercise

Think you can mix great? Then try mixing old-school:

1. Mix only using vinyl
2. On your mixer, mix ONLY with the channel faders. No crossfader or EQ's AT ALL.
3. For cueing, cue using the one ear on/one ear off method. Do NOT cue more than one channel at a time EVER in the headphones, and do not use split-cue.
4. Try switching cue ears.

I've been trying to do this to get my beatmaching even tighter without "checking" my mixes by cueing in the master. This is what it's like to spin on a Bozak or Rane MP-2016 (not the A model, and without the EQ expansion).

It's, umm, interesting. And humbling


Posted by djkoolaide on Dec-02-2005 02:13:

Uhh, that's how I've always mixed.


Posted by skoom on Dec-02-2005 02:32:

haha i think thats how most ppl mix lol @ old skool


Posted by T-Soma on Dec-02-2005 02:45:

Your not from around here are you?


Posted by Vlad on Dec-02-2005 02:46:

Re: Try this for a total mind F!@K exercise

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Think you can mix great? Then try mixing old-school:

1. Mix only using vinyl
2. On your mixer, mix ONLY with the channel faders. No crossfader or EQ's AT ALL.
3. For cueing, cue using the one ear on/one ear off method. Do NOT cue more than one channel at a time EVER in the headphones, and do not use split-cue.
4. Try switching cue ears.

I've been trying to do this to get my beatmaching even tighter without "checking" my mixes by cueing in the master. This is what it's like to spin on a Bozak or Rane MP-2016 (not the A model, and without the EQ expansion).

It's, umm, interesting. And humbling



Uhh, that is how I mix... although I use EQ's, its minimal.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-02-2005 02:49:



Most ppl do that. I dont use number 2...I use all eq/efx/crossfader/and faders to mix...for cueing lately ive been doing split cue but normally its the old skool method as you say


Posted by Ryan0751 on Dec-02-2005 03:26:

That's the point, DON'T use eq's, no swapping bassline's, etc. Makes you concentrate much more on track selection and programming.

And I always mix using the one ear on/off, but I usually check my mixes before I bring in a track to make fine adjustments. Try not doing that


quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31


Most ppl do that. I dont use number 2...I use all eq/efx/crossfader/and faders to mix...for cueing lately ive been doing split cue but normally its the old skool method as you say


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-02-2005 04:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
That's the point, DON'T use eq's, no swapping bassline's, etc. Makes you concentrate much more on track selection and programming.

And I always mix using the one ear on/off, but I usually check my mixes before I bring in a track to make fine adjustments. Try not doing that


ok but using eq's effects and etc helps your mixes. Especially sending them to clubs/labels etc. If your gonna just plain mix records its gonna seem pretty bla. I do know what your saying though gets the perfection of a mix down but eq's and effects are needed now a days in mixes and sometimes if the beat is off a bit good use of EQ's and Effects help it


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-02-2005 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
ok but using eq's effects and etc helps your mixes. Especially sending them to clubs/labels etc. If your gonna just plain mix records its gonna seem pretty bla. I do know what your saying though gets the perfection of a mix down but eq's and effects are needed now a days in mixes and sometimes if the beat is off a bit good use of EQ's and Effects help it


He means it as an exercise.. not for reall recprding and sending out demos..

But..
...


...


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-02-2005 04:40:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
He means it as an exercise.. not for reall recprding and sending out demos..

But..
...


...



How is it an excerise when like this is normal precidure(sp)

Greg i added you


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-02-2005 05:17:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
How is it an excerise when like this is normal precidure(sp)

Greg i added you


well, hes looking at it like an exercise..


Added me to what?


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-02-2005 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
well, hes looking at it like an exercise..


Added me to what?


to myspace you fuckkkkkkkkkkkk


Posted by s3nate on Dec-02-2005 05:53:

I dont do #3. I split cue (i think)

What I do is have one track playing and the other on cue, put the headphones on both ears and switch the cue mode to ch1-ch2 so I hear both at the same time in the headphones. I don't understand why not much people do this, I find the one ear on one ear off thing quite difficult!


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-02-2005 08:13:

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
to myspace you fuckkkkkkkkkkkk


Oh, thats you ...

cool.


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-02-2005 08:41:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
Oh, thats you ...

cool.


HOLLA!!


Posted by b i n k u n on Dec-02-2005 09:49:

if u want to make it REALLY old school...

try mixing without the pitch slider. meaning, keep the slower track in beat with one finger on the platter at all times.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Dec-02-2005 12:23:

Yes people, this is just an exercise! Not that we don't know how to mix, but I know I certainly use all the EQ's, filters, and cue'ing features of my Xone 92. I just thought it would be "fun" to go back to channel volumes only, no eq's, and the most basic cueing (one channel at a time). Also switching cue'ing ears is kinda freaky at first after you get so used to doing it one way.

If you play out and you are stuck on a Rane rotary, with a single monitor on the "wrong" side, that's what you'll have to deal with. I feel the more variables I throw into making my mixing more difficult, the better I'll get!


Posted by Stu Cox on Dec-02-2005 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
if u want to make it REALLY old school...

try mixing without the pitch slider. meaning, keep the slower track in beat with one finger on the platter at all times.


Haha that's how I used to mix before I got decks worth having

Here's a proper challenge

Try doing all of the above without monitors but you're still not allowed to cue more than one channel at once, not allowed to cue master so you just have to tell if they're in time by switching between which one you're listening to haha

Record it, play it back...


Posted by RJT on Dec-02-2005 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Yes people, this is just an exercise! Not that we don't know how to mix, but I know I certainly use all the EQ's, filters, and cue'ing features of my Xone 92. I just thought it would be "fun" to go back to channel volumes only, no eq's, and the most basic cueing (one channel at a time). Also switching cue'ing ears is kinda freaky at first after you get so used to doing it one way.

If you play out and you are stuck on a Rane rotary, with a single monitor on the "wrong" side, that's what you'll have to deal with. I feel the more variables I throw into making my mixing more difficult, the better I'll get!


I think it's cool Ryan!

I definitely find it fun to go back and basically mix the way I did when I just started, bare bones, with a cheap little gemini mixer where using the EQ's was basically pointless anyway (The response on them was exceptionally minimal), it just throws the focus of practice back towards track selection, phrasing, and general programming instead of focusing on the minute details of the mix...

Edit: Holy shit Stu! You just gave me my new challenge of the week...


Posted by lucas ss on Dec-02-2005 17:24:

that's what i do 'cept i use eqs and i don't switch cue ears


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-02-2005 19:54:

Ryan with the Xone:92 very nice!


Posted by Ryan0751 on Dec-02-2005 19:56:

With rotary faders, even. VERY nice.

It's my birthday next week (turning the big 30) so I treated myself to it. I'm so good to me.

quote:
Originally posted by InterMilan31
Ryan with the Xone:92 very nice!


Posted by InterMilan31 on Dec-02-2005 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
With rotary faders, even. VERY nice.

It's my birthday next week (turning the big 30) so I treated myself to it. I'm so good to me.


you bastard!...i just go it with faders i can see why ppl go for the rotary


Posted by Abhay on Dec-03-2005 07:15:

Re: Try this for a total mind F!@K exercise

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
3. For cueing, cue using the one ear on/one ear off method. Do NOT cue more than one channel at a time EVER in the headphones, and do not use split-cue.


i don't have proper monitors


Posted by Stu Cox on Dec-03-2005 11:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RJT
Edit: Holy shit Stu! You just gave me my new challenge of the week...

I'll give you another one next week


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