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Posted by reveal on Jan-04-2002 22:59:

Unhappy Trance Energy 2002 is too big

TE2002 is, according to trance.nu, too big. The progressive area will be canceled (no Stef, Marco V, Danny Howells or Alison Marks ). Only 25 000 tickets will be sold, meaning it's almost sold out.
Read the full article @ http://trance.nu/v3/news_show.php?id=455


Posted by JM on Jan-04-2002 23:09:

so much for the "big" raves huh????

damm that's too bad, damm laws always limiting our full trance experience

>JM<


Posted by Blik on Jan-04-2002 23:13:

no Marco V........

ah well, we still have Rank-1 and other good dj's off course


Posted by Lytchix on Jan-04-2002 23:23:

Re: Trance Energy 2002 is too big

quote:
Originally posted by reveal
TE2002 is, according to trance.nu, too big. The progressive area will be canceled (no Stef, Marco V, Danny Howells or Alison Marks ). Only 25 000 tickets will be sold, meaning it's almost sold out.
Read the full article @ http://trance.nu/v3/news_show.php?id=455


Thanks for the information!
I'll buy my tickets 2morrow!
I must take my car and go till the Netherlands!


Posted by Spad on Jan-04-2002 23:29:

Ah well...25,000 is enough Is it definate about Marco V though, just coz they're closing that Arena, they might just move him into a different room.


Posted by Dj Gracjan on Jan-04-2002 23:52:

Unhappy

Wow its sooo sad for me......this news is affecting me bad.....i love huge raves.......& since the new law with no more than 25,000 ppl... that means....SENSATION will not be as big as i hoped for when i will go next year......& its really bad.....cuz Trance Energy is also a great event....too bad Marco V is gone....but hopefully they will change him into a diff room....because he is honestly a really great dj

< POLSKA POWER >
DJ XtReMe......aka Grass|Polak


Posted by Biohazard on Jan-04-2002 23:54:

Angry

yeah this sux

whoever made that law

I FART ON YOUR FACE!!!


Posted by ZinG on Jan-05-2002 00:01:

guys u cant even listen to all Djs at the same time...like theres best of all Djs in every room... i dont think it would be nice to be missing on one while listening to the other....


Posted by John on Jan-05-2002 00:05:

aaarg fack, this totally sucks, no marco v =/ and i bought my ticket yesterday.........but it is NOT a new law, so dont be affraid for sensation and stuff..
its just that since the zaandam incident (someone died cos of an overdose) that regional gouvernments (im sure theres a better word for this but i cant come up with it hehe) are afraid to give out a permit for such huge events....and this is very sad, so i want to say to the mayor of utrecht and his fucked up friends who took this decision...DIE FUKKING SLOWLY! (sorry heh, im pretty angry)

id&t is planning to go to court and maybe this way they can save the first id of the party (40,000ppl WITH progressive area AND marco v!!)
for more info www.id-t.com (dutch)

peace


Posted by harcourt on Jan-05-2002 00:55:

Awww ... only 25,000 people, hell I wouldn't even bother going now, utter SHITE!

We get a kick out of 1000-1500 people here. The chances of getting a party of that size here, are next to .... well .... impossible.

I'd still donate my left nut to go to TE2002 !


Posted by YuVaL on Jan-05-2002 08:29:

this totally sucks!!..

well, biggest party i've been to was no more then 4000 ppl
i dunno what your crying about
25,000 is a SHITLOAD of ppl!!!!!

sucks about marco v though..


Posted by Tranex02 on Jan-05-2002 08:32:

I wish i could go anyway.....


Posted by Crazy Serb on Jan-05-2002 10:33:

quote:
Originally posted by tw1tch
Awww ... only 25,000 people, hell I wouldn't even bother going now, utter SHITE!

We get a kick out of 1000-1500 people here. The chances of getting a party of that size here, are next to .... well .... impossible.

I'd still donate my left nut to go to TE2002 !


I hear that, bro...


Posted by �chop� on Jan-05-2002 12:26:

I guess that the movie i have from trance energy (Johan Gielen & Svenson) will be the last movie of 40,000~50,000 people dancing to...

TWISTED !


Posted by John on Jan-05-2002 13:54:

quote:
Originally posted by �chop�
I guess that the movie i have from trance energy (Johan Gielen & Svenson) will be the last movie of 40,000~50,000 people dancing to...

TWISTED !


there werent 40000-50000 at the last edition of TE, 'only' 25.000
so on the vid u have u only see about 21.000 (the little ice hockey hall next to it had space for about 4000)


Posted by **Joe_86** on Jan-05-2002 14:13:

The problem is that a indoor party with 40.000 people can't be made as safe as it has to be now! That the organisatores learned from Innercity a few days ago. The Netherlands have already had bad experience with this in 2000 when 12 young people died because of a fire in a disco! The city government from Utrecht will make a new law on January 10th that non open air partys with more then 25.000 will not be allowed anymore! This means that Trance Energy only can sell 25.000 tickets for this edition! The result of this is that the progressive area will not take place this Trance Energy! So all people who wanna go there to see Stef, Marco V, Danny Howells or Alison Marks have bad luck!


Posted by **Joe_86** on Jan-05-2002 14:18:

BTW, I have no chance of going anyway, so to all those that were...

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UNLUCKY!


Posted by Spad on Jan-05-2002 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by **Joe_86**
BTW, I have no chance of going anyway, so to all those that were...

UNLUCKY!


Unlucky? 25,000 people, Blank & Jones, Rank 1 (live), Johan Gielen, Cosmic Gate, Dumonde, Kai Tracid, Dutch girls.... I think I can live with that.


Posted by John on Jan-05-2002 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by **Joe_86**
The problem is that a indoor party with 40.000 people can't be made as safe as it has to be now! That the organisatores learned from Innercity a few days ago. The Netherlands have already had bad experience with this in 2000 when 12 young people died because of a fire in a disco! The city government from Utrecht will make a new law on January 10th that non open air partys with more then 25.000 will not be allowed anymore! This means that Trance Energy only can sell 25.000 tickets for this edition! The result of this is that the progressive area will not take place this Trance Energy! So all people who wanna go there to see Stef, Marco V, Danny Howells or Alison Marks have bad luck!


there was nothing wrong with innercity..no problems at all!! and there was never a fire in a disco, it was a little cafe in a small village. (doesnt take away the fact that it is terrible what happened ofcours)
i will try to translate what is says on id-t.com:

ID&T finally has got problems of the Zaandam affair (as i posted earlier; someone died of an overdose). at the moment while we thought we proved with innercity that it IS possible to give parties for more then 40.000 people on a safe and responsible way, the city government of utrecht will almost certainly renounce of giving out a permit for more then 25.000 people.

hopes this cleares up..i have no time to translate the other txt :
c ya at trance energy (itll be great )
peace


Posted by Thierry on Jan-05-2002 18:26:

Hey guys, consider yourself lucky. Over here, we have problems throwing parties for more than 2000 ppl without having the authority on our asses. Our scene is going down the tubes. I wish we could have a 25000 people party (especially TRANCE party) but hey, that's the breaks. Weird how they put Marco V in the Progressive arena though and shitty that you guys miss out on Danny Howells. Top DJ. Have fun at TE 2002 anywayz. Cheers.


Posted by PsycoEwok on Jan-05-2002 19:24:

Bah at least you people get parties at all. Here in the U.S.A. we get NOTHING, and if we do it's no where near where I live. Hell I don't even get a dance radio station of any kind here. Heh Alabama's most-listened-to music is rap and alternative/rock. UGH! Man I'd love to go to a party of ANY size, but the bigger the better of course. Hope all of you TA's have fun at Trance Energy though. Just imagine me there with you.


Posted by LightForce on Jan-05-2002 20:00:

Well I live in Utrecht (well next to it) and the problem is that the city government won't believe it's safe. I only don't understand why the fire department and the police have said that its save to get 40.000 people in the Jaarbeurs. With that statement you think its okay.

But our city government thinks otherwise. This is not the first time that our city government have screwed up a rave. In utrecht there is every year a event called "Udance" this outdoor dance festival has many visitors. Well the case of this is that the city government didn't allowed the organisation to party till 02:00 in the night. They have stopped it on 01:00 well okay 1 hours, but that again a pretty cool hour that have been canceled.

In the time of the other party's there where more problems like this. Ill hope the city government can learn about other city governments like Amsterdam. Because this is just silly. And the Jaarbeurs is a good complex to allow more then 40.000 people. The complex owner says thats it's possible to host about 80.000 people. Well thats the half more then planned. And still Utrecht is going to cancel it.

But we will see it at thursday 10 januari, then the city government will pronounce if the event can allow 40.000 people or not. If not ID&T will go to court and fight this descision. So till then it's not sure about this issue. But it's most likely that this 25.000 people rule will stand.

Well ill hope you have now enough information about it

greetings

p.s. about marco v, it's sad. Ill hope ID&T will replace Jean for Marco V


Posted by da_MynDLesS_one on Jan-05-2002 20:18:

Sad NOOOOOOOO

Not Marco V!!!! Take anyone else away, but not Marco V!!!! How can you deprive the world of Marco V?? This is cruel and unusual!!!!

*weeps uncontrollably*


Posted by Ron Thijssen on Jan-05-2002 20:23:

Re: NOOOOOOOO

quote:
Originally posted by da_MynDLesS_one
Not Marco V!!!! Take anyone else away, but not Marco V!!!! How can you deprive the world of Marco V?? This is cruel and unusual!!!!

*weeps uncontrollably*


Marco V is sooooo GOOD!!!!!!
The way he spinned @ Innercity was awesome!!!!
He MUST be at TE too!

Damn ID&T!


Posted by **Joe_86** on Jan-05-2002 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad


Unlucky? 25,000 people, Blank & Jones, Rank 1 (live), Johan Gielen, Cosmic Gate, Dumonde, Kai Tracid, Dutch girls.... I think I can live with that.


Stop raining on my parade.


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