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Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-02-2005 19:14:

Maybe trance has finally evolved...

Now I have to admit right off the bat. If I had to pick my favourite year(s) for trance it would have to be either '99, about when I first started getting into the genre, and 2002 to 2003 (lots of tracks there that I like). But I also have to say, this year has been absolutely amazing. And I think it is really safe to say that trance has really evolved into a new sound. Yes, there is less melodic tracks, which is the sound I first began to love, but we now have a mixture of new sounds. It seems that with all of these new genres on the rise trance has taken elements from each one. When I listen to dj sets live or at home from 2005 I hear a lot more hard driving beats with tech sounds, house sounds, progressive sounds and more. I think it has cought a lot by surprise which is why some don't like this year in trance. It did happen quite fast and wasn't a slow evolution to say the least. But I believe it is something that won't take too long to get used to.


Posted by Armin01 on Dec-02-2005 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Now I have to admit right off the bat. If I had to pick my favourite year(s) for trance it would have to be either '99, about when I first started getting into the genre, and 2002 to 2003 (lots of tracks there that I like). But I also have to say, this year has been absolutely amazing. And I think it is really safe to say that trance has really evolved into a new sound. Yes, there is less melodic tracks, which is the sound I first began to love, but we now have a mixture of new sounds. It seems that with all of these new genres on the rise trance has taken elements from each one. When I listen to dj sets live or at home from 2005 I hear a lot more hard driving beats with tech sounds, house sounds, progressive sounds and more. I think it has cought a lot by surprise which is why some don't like this year in trance. It did happen quite fast and wasn't a slow evolution to say the least. But I believe it is something that won't take too long to get used to.


opened a can of worms i think but in my opinion i think your totally right in what your saying!


Posted by david.michael on Dec-02-2005 19:19:

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Posted by Blue. on Dec-02-2005 19:21:

Re: Maybe trance has finally evolved...

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
I think it has cought a lot by surprise which is why some don't like this year in trance.


That's not why


Posted by Purple on Dec-02-2005 19:22:

15 + pages in 24 hours.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-02-2005 19:23:

it hasn't evolved...its just most people around haven't been introduced to these kinda songs before...some are liking it...some aren't. besides that traditionally trance dj's like tiesto, armin...are starting to play more of it because it's getting popular. it has nothing to do with trance evolving, but other genres becoming more popular...


Posted by bananas on Dec-02-2005 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
15 + pages in 24 hours.


Posted by zoric on Dec-02-2005 19:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
15 + pages in 24 hours.


good prediction.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-02-2005 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
it hasn't evolved...its just most people around haven't been introduced to these kinda songs before...some are liking it...some aren't. besides that traditionally trance dj's like tiesto, armin...are starting to play more of it because it's getting popular. it has nothing to do with trance evolving, but other genres becoming more popular...

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmNO, trance this year has absolutely been less melodic then previous years in trance. Elements and ideas ARE being taking by all the genres. House today isn't the same as it was 5 years ago. Listen, there are elements from other genres there. Its not like this is a bad thing its just that the sound is different.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-02-2005 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmNO, trance this year has absolutely been less melodic then previous years in trance. Elements and ideas ARE being taking by all the genres. House today isn't the same as it was 5 years ago. Listen, there are elements from other genres there. Its not like this is a bad thing its just that the sound is different.



ok you give me an example of a house tune today...or a trance tune today and i'll try to give you an example of a tune with a similar sound from 4-5 years ago...


i'm not saying that music hasn't changed at all, but i think it's been there a lot longer than people think...


Posted by feidias on Dec-02-2005 19:54:

Re: Maybe trance has finally evolved...

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Now I have to admit right off the bat. If I had to pick my favourite year(s) for trance it would have to be either '99, about when I first started getting into the genre, and 2002 to 2003 (lots of tracks there that I like). But I also have to say, this year has been absolutely amazing. And I think it is really safe to say that trance has really evolved into a new sound. Yes, there is less melodic tracks, which is the sound I first began to love, but we now have a mixture of new sounds. It seems that with all of these new genres on the rise trance has taken elements from each one. When I listen to dj sets live or at home from 2005 I hear a lot more hard driving beats with tech sounds, house sounds, progressive sounds and more. I think it has cought a lot by surprise which is why some don't like this year in trance. It did happen quite fast and wasn't a slow evolution to say the least. But I believe it is something that won't take too long to get used to.


I think it all comes once more down to the personal understanding of the term trance.Because if u think that trance is all about cool sounds that sound exotic etc then 2004-2005 is ur age


Posted by lacksesepsotygh on Dec-02-2005 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
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you have a point there, allthough i don't fully agree when you say that sdopgyiu aprotu awpoei awpoeriy is ;slajkbn x,.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-02-2005 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
ok you give me an example of a house tune today...or a trance tune today and i'll try to give you an example of a tune with a similar sound from 4-5 years ago...


i'm not saying that music hasn't changed at all, but i think it's been there a lot longer than people think...

And I am not saying that you will never find a song a couple years ago that doesn't sound similar to one today. But the sound you hear today is more common then that one tune you heard 4 years ago.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-02-2005 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
And I am not saying that you will never find a song a couple years ago that doesn't sound similar to one today. But the sound you hear today is more common then that one tune you heard 4 years ago.


yeah i agree...i mean obviously there is a lot more of certain sounds around today because people are producing them more, but i'm just saying that "trance" with techier sounds...or house with the new funky buzzy sound...these aren't new in 2005...just the popularity has risen. i've been searching out exactly these kinda tunes from the last 4-5 years and you'd be surprised there has been a lot...it's just nothing we've heard of before because it wasn't mainstream...and we wouldn't have known about it unless we followed the labels and artists that carried it...

but anyway...no real point arguing about this because it sounds like we both like the diversity...


Posted by nchs09 on Dec-02-2005 20:25:

ff wins.


Posted by david.michael on Dec-02-2005 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by lacksesepsotygh
you have a point there, allthough i don't fully agree when you say that sdopgyiu aprotu awpoei awpoeriy is ;slajkbn x,.


The problem with that is you start getting into harpee harpee alulsu haboobie boobie woo woo shiggity-shiggity schwa blah blah blah yackety smackety wop-bop-a-loo-bop, a wop bam-boom. Tooty fruity.


Posted by halexander837 on Dec-03-2005 14:32:

Trance 05

its okay...

Shivers was good this year but really haven't been paying attention to recent tracks.


Posted by Zenchowdah on Dec-03-2005 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by halexander837
Trance 05

its okay...

Shivers was good this year but really haven't been paying attention to recent tracks.



thaaaaaaaaats not 2005 stuff, man, thats 2002 trying desperately to not die.


Posted by Allied Nations on Dec-03-2005 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
ok you give me an example of a house tune today...or a trance tune today and i'll try to give you an example of a tune with a similar sound from 4-5 years ago...


i'm not saying that music hasn't changed at all, but i think it's been there a lot longer than people think...


Ze mang is right.

I dont know if yall heard danny howells gu27, but one of the tracks on it (Sneaker Pimps - Post Modern Sleaze (Salt City Remix)) is from 1997!!!! and it still plays out perfectly with the rest of the albuM!! ch'mon!


Posted by Aiwendil on Dec-03-2005 16:54:

Oh yes I definitely agreee, trance has evolved.


In its first incarnation, trance was a fairly normal thing, innocent, naive, young, and impressionable:



Then, in its first evolution, trance became bigger and more powerful. It started to have an attitude and self-posession about itsef that was only exemplified by its new gypsy earring:



Finally, in the last evolution, things just went completely even more overboard. All the bad things about trance just got bigger, including its caveman brow. It was simply, the biggest, most powerful, most self-posessed, overblown nonsense you've ever seen:





I estimate trance at a power level of.....*eyeglass power level reader shatters*....IT'S OFF THE CHARTS!!! ERRRGHH...EUHGGGGG.....AAAHHHHHH........EERRRRMMM......ECHHH....Uhhhhhhh...I think I just shat me puffy MC Hammer pants.


Posted by Soeder on Dec-03-2005 16:59:

trance is less melodic because the artist is not as creative as they were before. now any moron can get signed, and any moron can dj, there's no need for a clue about music anymore (on the dj part).


Posted by Spirit5 on Dec-03-2005 18:20:

I posted something about this in the "Why trance is going down the pan" thread. Trance has evolved, you just need to know where to look and who to look for. Sure there are still the same stereotypical trance riffs that on a personal basis feel they get annoying and over used and that there needs to be more varied sounds, including sounds that are more natural or organic sounding. There already is stuff like this such as stuff by Mark Otten, Hydroid, Alucard or Kalafut & Fygle. I think his sound should be the sound to emulate bringing trance into the future, and I think some producers are starting to catch on. A similar formula should be used, the build up, break down, build up, because that is what has made trance so successful (Why else would trance have been as successful as it has been when these types of sounds were made big in 98 and 99?) but trance now is sounding and should sound emotional and beautiful without being so overtly theatrical or grandiose. Mark Otten does this very well.

Compare songs such as "El Nino" by Agnelli & Nelson, "Carte Blanche" by Veracocha or "I Believe" by Lange, or songs like that, to "Tranqulity" "Mushroom Therapy" or "So Serene, or even stuff from other artists like "Time To Say Goobye" by Envio, "3579 KM" by Kalafut & Fygle or "Blue Tubes" by Hydroid, and you'll see the influence but you'll also see how it has progressed, whether you like the new sound or not. There are still "epic" tunes or "Anthems", "Time To Say Goodbye" is an example of a combination of both the deeper aspect of the newer trance stuff with the grandiose sounds from 98 and 99. And obviously if you look at some new releases, you'll see that stuff is still around, but a good half of it (and more to come in the future) has evolved by building upon it and adding some new sounds. Again it still needs some work but I think it's getting there...


Posted by Zenchowdah on Dec-03-2005 19:25:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
Ze mang is right.

I dont know if yall heard danny howells gu27, but one of the tracks on it (Sneaker Pimps - Post Modern Sleaze (Salt City Remix)) is from 1997!!!! and it still plays out perfectly with the rest of the albuM!! ch'mon!



and detroit escalator company - abstract forward motion from sasha's em was from 92, i believe...


Posted by UWM on Dec-03-2005 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
and detroit escalator company - abstract forward motion from sasha's em was from 92, i believe...


and tantra - hills of kathmandu on howells gu is from 1979


Posted by Clovis on Dec-03-2005 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
and detroit escalator company - abstract forward motion from sasha's em was from 92, i believe...



Thats a gorgeous track.


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