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Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Dec-03-2005 23:15:

beats hate each other?

This is really depressing me now, I dunno whther it's just a stages i am going through at the moment, but more or less every mix i do has major issues with phasing of beats. Sometimes even bass phases happen...

WTF?

I spin entirely off cd's now a days, is it possible that my mixes are "too" in time if that makes sense? buying direct from lables and stuff means that cd decks play tune at exacvt 138 bpm, and other tune plays at exact 138 bpm then the sound at the bottom end just gets screwed?

Any tips pointers?

EQ helps but then it still happens a lot, some times resulting in total arse up of sound and the energy drops.

HELP!!!

Posted by Rick D on Dec-03-2005 23:40:

basically, if the two tracks are perfectly in time with each other, and the beats have a similar sound, they can cancel each other out, the trick is to offset one ever so slightly

Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Dec-03-2005 23:47:

yeah, but it sounds so shit, a fine example is

DJ Tiesto - Nyana into DJ Tab Verso

Tabs bass comes in and all power goes it sound like the volume died by half. Well annoying...

Anyone else have this problem. Its also annoying when it sounds like that are going out of tie, but in reality they are 100% in with each other.

Posted by alefort on Dec-04-2005 00:57:

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
yeah, but it sounds so shit, a fine example is

DJ Tiesto - Nyana into DJ Tab Verso

Tabs bass comes in and all power goes it sound like the volume died by half. Well annoying...

Anyone else have this problem. Its also annoying when it sounds like that are going out of tie, but in reality they are 100% in with each other.

If they are going out of phase, then they aren't 100% beatmatched. That simple. Keep trying with the same two tracks, over and over and over again. Then see if after a while you can get it perfect.

If you can beatmatch the tracks, and if they are beatmatched perfectly, it will very rarely sound like shit. It's once they are out of phase, which would indicate poor cue-ing or mismatched beats, that songs begin to sound like crap.

My only advice: You think you have it perfect, but in reality you don't. It's the first thing I learned, and probably the most important....just keep trying.