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Posted by technoman on Dec-04-2005 21:28:

What goes where.......

Hi there,
Im new....but ive got the software and stuff.
what goes where in a trance track.
Like ive been reading all this stuff.Bass,lead synth,pads,chords,melodies,......the list goes on and on.

I know no 2 trance tracks are the same in terms of what sounds/effects it has in it.But what are like the essentials and where do they go?
I listen to a lot of trance(its the only thing)so i know the sounds but i dont know what theyre called in fruity.
I know the very basics like a kick and a clap and snare.
Ive have checked the forums but it doesnt deal with this kind of stuff.If it does please just post the link where i can get this info.

Thanks,and i cant wait to post some tracks for you guys to hear.


Posted by djlogik on Dec-04-2005 21:38:

So you ready for an answer? I'm gonna tell you but you have to learn one thing...there are no rules. I mean a typical track will have a clap, snare, shaker maybe, kick, bass, a lead and sublead sound maybe, pads, other random effects, and whatever else you want. It really doesn't matter. You personally have to sit down though, learn the program, learn some synthesis (or just use patches and tweak them), get yourself some samples (or make your own, but you need to know some synthesis), learn about music theory, learn about this and that...basically you gotta do some learning first. You really can't just dive right into it if you have no idea what you're doing or what sounds you hear in a trance track. Learn first then start to practice practice practice and you'll get better at it. Good luck


Posted by armanivespucci on Dec-04-2005 21:58:

Browse these forums and over time you'll get familiar with production terms, I guarantee it.


Posted by dj jasonF on Dec-04-2005 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by armanivespucci
Browse these forums and over time you'll get familiar with production terms, I guarantee it.


+1.

just make random music while reading boards like these and youll soon learn enough to make trance.


Posted by technoman on Dec-04-2005 22:28:

Appreciated

Thanks for the answer.
It was a good answer actually.

So i will do that and then post some half decent track and i guess by doing that it will get some good feedback from it.


Posted by Pudelko on Dec-05-2005 06:29:

quote:
So i will do that and then post some half decent track and i guess by doing that it will get some good feedback from it.


sounds about right, just post it in the production promotion board and people will give you feedback telling you what you could do to improve the sounds you have.

good luck


Posted by Wandii on Dec-05-2005 09:23:

What makes a good track is mainly the melody. A track could be badly made but have an awesome melody. Prioritize your melodies, bo!


Posted by technoman on Dec-06-2005 03:49:

Melody?

Hey Wandii,

Thanks for the tip man.
Now what is the melody and where does it take its place in the track?

As is my original post i know what a trance track sounds like but i dont know what or where the stuff goes.While each trance song is different there are definately some of th same elements that go into it.
Those elements are what i dont know.


Posted by armanivespucci on Dec-06-2005 04:25:

This answer may go above and beyond answering a question for someone completely new to music production, and music in general, but I like writing, so why not.

There are two major types of trance music, IMO. People give them all sorts of names in terms of subgenres and genres, but really there are only two major categorizations that are really big right now.

One is more slated toward the ambient, and one is more melodic. Right now what seems to be rather popular is the more fluid, less melodic, ambient stuff, like that of Solarstone or Art of Trance.

The place of the melody in a track is up to the producer. If you want a strong melody, you simply base your production around the melody. If you want a more ambient track, I suggest basing your production around chords (if you don't know what that means you can look it up at www.wikipedia.com).

In any event, before you start learning production, I recommend learning how to write music on the piano first. This will take some number of years to get proficient in, but this should be your FIRST goal.



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