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production Software???
I think im going insane but a while back, wasnt there a permanent thread on here for all the programs and their pro's and con's. Anyways, I take a course called Electronic Music in my high school. We first started out on a program called Print Music. It was a basic notation program where you were able to add notes and create your own songs from a keyboard. We are now working in a program called Cakewalk Home Studio. We are able to Create songs using loops and we are able to remix songs and what not. i was talking to my teacher about various programs and i was wondering if buying fruity loops would be enough to create songs. I heard my teacher say something about how you can import songs made from fruity loops into Acid pro and change it up somehow. I really only got part of the conversation but anyways. What would be a good combination of programs to get to start creating music and it actually sound good. Im really confused so if you have any question's or critisism feel free.
Another question i have is about learning to use the program fruity loops. I know a little bit but not enough about the program to start giving people advice or doing anything real serious. Would i learn easier messing around my self or reading the tutorial and help menu's.
thanks everyone,
Mike
Re: production Software???
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| [i][b] Another question i have is about learning to use the program fruity loops. I know a little bit but not enough about the program to start giving people advice or doing anything real serious. Would i learn easier messing around my self or reading the tutorial and help menu's. |
shy away from FL? what kind of advice is that?
music production is the only industry where so many people place a higher prescedent on the tools you use over the ability of the artist.
i almost miss graphic design because nobody will tell you that you dont have a chance if you dont use sable brushes or wacom graphics tablets.
for the last time, its not what you use, its how you use it and bad worksmen are always inclined to blame their tools.
^ If you used cakewalk i guess you have some veiw on how music is created. But i would stick with FruityLoops because it is easy to learn. I had no idea how music was created, Donwloaded the Fl trial, and about after a month i knew the basics and i was pumping out songs but there where not good at all. It takes a while to hear results.
But dont just stick with Fl and download some other programs and see what you like. To me, music making is the only thing i look forward to after school, it changed me life 
the real problem with FL, is the CPU eating, in cubase some synths are half cpu what they are in FL, personally i hate FL i hate the kiddy plastic design and the playlist YUCK LOL
I recomend Sonar, maybe Sonar 4 see if you can get it cheap on ebay, watch out for pirated copys though
CPU load is never a problem if you bounce everything. Just one of those things that you live with and work around.
Now that i bounce practically everything i cant see how anyone can work exclusively in realtime. I mean, i can put enough processing on a single instrument that would cripple most PCs several times over.
i can afford to put multiple convolution reverbs on any instrument and use high quality mode on voxengo crunchessor for every instrument that uses it. wahoo! if i run out of CPU. bouncy bouncy.
you can get free stuff, the dyne:bolic cd (google it) is a really nice place to get started if you dont have any money to spend.
If you have a bunch of computers on a network they can cluster and process together for you just by booting them all with the dyne:bolic cd. It is quite a slick little cd designed to enable ppl in third world contries who dont have powerful computers to be able to create stuff, there is even one that runs on the xbox.
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| Originally posted by Derivative shy away from FL? what kind of advice is that? music production is the only industry where so many people place a higher prescedent on the tools you use over the ability of the artist. i almost miss graphic design because nobody will tell you that you dont have a chance if you dont use sable brushes or wacom graphics tablets. for the last time, its not what you use, its how you use it and bad worksmen are always inclined to blame their tools. |
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| Originally posted by DJ Initial most fucking stupid post I've seen in a while. |
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| Originally posted by DJ Initial most fucking stupid post I've seen in a while. Unless you want to spend a considerable amount of time and money on drum samples and software synths, you should probably start with Reason, so you have everything you need. Believe me, after a year of having FL with no commercial synths/effects, trying to make anything resembling professional quality is fucking hard. Just say no to FL. |
I'm definitely going to have to agree with DarkSword on this one. Do remember though...not only will he have to learn how the program works, but also proper eqing and compression if he wants to have some nice samples from the default FL ones.
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| Originally posted by IDarkISwordI Hey. Nice opinion. I'm thinking you didnt spend a lot of time with it however. The percussion samples kinda suck but thats why you make them sound good. Rather than taking the lazy way out of it and just looking for already processed samples, which by the way, give you no uniqueness, you claim it to be the problem of the sequencer. It took me a while to get good percussion in FLS, but I'm glad that I have the experience so that I can take just about any kick sample and make it a nice, trancey pumping kick. Whatever, dont use FLS, but Reason isnt exactly the holy grail either buddy. Cheers, Zac |
Are we really still debating whether FL sucks or not?
Honestly. This is like debating some hot issue like gay marriage. People will selectively filter out whatever information they want based on what they believe. It's a bit of cognitive dissonance.
I used to use FL, now I use Cubase. Okay. Great. How about instead of posting all about what sequencers suck and what don't, and what are "pro" and what aren't, we post tracks that we've made and simply not disclose what sequencer they were made in? I think criticism would then become more objective.
Personally if I made an "ALLFRUIT" track, I wouldn't disclose that it was made in Fruity. I would just say I made it. Period.
I wouldnt recommend fruity loops because imo its childs play production. its handed to you on a plate. and you'll end up upgrading to cubase, logic or reason when you become much better at producing. i used fruity loops for about 2 months then upgraded to cubase and reason so it was a waste of money.
Thanks to everyone who gave me advice...if anyone has anymore advice I would really appreciate it!
Fruity is a decent place to start, moreso because it is the cheapest of the bunch.
If you have cash to spend though, your main debate should be really between Cubase and Reason, or Logic and Reason if you use a mac.
Reason has a good sound and you can do some really good stuff with it, but you cannot import new instraments into it, which is a huge drawback to it. Also many people move on to Cubase or Logic from Reason in the end anyway.
So I would say:
If you just want to have fun - Fruity Loops.
If you want a mid level program - Reason.
If you are really, really interesting in this - Cubase.
When you end up with Cubase odds are you will not need another production program, just plugins and what not.
Fruity is a decent place to start, moreso because it is the cheapest of the bunch.
If you have cash to spend though, your main debate should be really between Cubase and Reason, or Logic and Reason if you use a mac.
Reason has a good sound and you can do some really good stuff with it, but you cannot import new instraments into it, which is a huge drawback to it. Also many people move on to Cubase or Logic from Reason in the end anyway.
So I would say:
If you just want to have fun - Fruity Loops.
If you want a mid level program - Reason.
If you are really, really interesting in this - Cubase.
When you end up with Cubase odds are you will not need another production program, just plugins and what not.
My opinion is that nowadays it's most wise to start in Ableton Live
It's easy, but at the same time very advanced
aren't more than half these programs Mac computer programs or can you buy them for the P.C. also.....im trying to learn first, then invest in better programs to get even better....
I use FL Studio and I love it. It is fun and fast to work in. I would recommend downloading the demo from www.flstudio.com - FL6 is coming out very soon. On the site, there is also a getting started guide. This is the best getting started guide I've ever read. If you download FL, you will most likely be lost for a long time unless you download this guide and go through the tutorials. Besides, it's fun. They also have some video tutorials on their site but start with the getting started guide. Also, when you buy it, buy it online. You will get free updates of all future FL Studio versions. And make sure you get the Producer edition if you can. It has all the features you will need.
-Heather
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| Originally posted by DJ Initial And for some reason you assume I don't know how to make good percussion in FL?... blah blah blah |
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