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levelling out volumes

ive got some mixes i recorded onto my pc and in some cases the volume of the incoming tune is much louder or much quieter, is there anyway to correct this?
i've tried normalizing over the range of the set but it causes clipping

i've noticed radio broadcasts are very level in terms of volume, even during mixing the peaks are no higher than normal

use you ears and gain/trim knobs

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Originally posted by Fearless One use you ears and gain/trim knobs

Yeah, you should be able to hear if one track is louder or softer than the previous.. Some mixers have pfl meters which give you a visual of the db level of the tunes..

If you recorded an awesome mix cept there was a couple leveling issues, you could always take it to soundforge to modify a bit..

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Originally posted by Fearless One use you ears and gain/trim knobs

i was afraid someone would say that

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Originally posted by generic i was afraid someone would say that

i think there's no other/better solution for your problem... or maybe you should get one of those mixers which dino mentioned with visual display of db level, but training your ears would be better way IMO...

Re: levelling out volumes

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Originally posted by generic ive got some mixes i recorded onto my pc and in some cases the volume of the incoming tune is much louder or much quieter, is there anyway to correct this? i've tried normalizing over the range of the set but it causes clipping i've noticed radio broadcasts are very level in terms of volume, even during mixing the peaks are no higher than normal

If you use mp3's, you can change the gain of your records using mp3gain

http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/

this way you won't have to worry about levels that much

I have a question, if someone here knows about changing trhe gain of records, and the db Volume.


if I set the volume of my records at 94 db, is this enough to play loud on a good system in clubs?

I mean this , beacuse a lot of records clip over 94 db, and if I want my tunes to be similar in gain volume, and think this would be good.
for example if I have a tune and it's at 98 db (Not Clipping), If I change it to 94 db will this sound loud enough when I turned the volume up?



Thanks

Someone help?

not sure about that. but I think it would depend on the system being used.

talk to the sound tech at the club
most will set up the system so it sounds best at 0db with a little headroom to play with

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Originally posted by Fearless One i think there's no other/better solution for your problem... or maybe you should get one of those mixers which dino mentioned with visual display of db level, but training your ears would be better way IMO...

I used to have a mixer that didnt have gain indicators on it - i just waited for the loudest bit on record a, then compared it to the loudest bit in record b in my headphones by switching the cue channels over - if the volume is different then adjust one accordingly. Not too difficult.

First thanks to all for the replys.

I see what you all mean, butI think the point here is alittle different.


Let's say you have 2 different records
you bought one vinyl and it's at 94 DB and you bought Another vinyl and it's at 97 DB.

I guess the vinyl it's made for live performance, and no matter how is setup the sound, it should sound fine there, and to match the other vinyl from 97 DB, I'll just have to lower it 3 Db, equaling 94 DB.


So there is a music record in the industry at 94 DB, is this a bad productiont that will not sound loud, or it will just be a matter of turning up the volume of the speakers.
I've been seen tracks from Digital stores that clip at 91 Db, are they selling me something that I won't be able to use loud ina club?

If it's well produced, then I guess it shouldn't be aproblem to set all of my records at 94 Db, but I want to make sure about this first, and not just guessing.


Thanks

Could you explain what you mean by 94db? I always thought it went from negative up to 0db and then it starts clipping anywhere above 0db.

Anyway to the original poster, just use the gain knob before you mix in the track to make sure the volume is even then make sure to work on your EQing a bit. Don't go slamming the new track in without some good EQ cuts or you will hear it coming in loud and clear, but sometimes that's a good effect to use while mixing.

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Originally posted by Zild Could you explain what you mean by 94db? I always thought it went from negative up to 0db and then it starts clipping anywhere above 0db.

Yeah, i wondered that myself..

I would not want 94 db of sound in my bedroom...

He's not talking about the db level on the EQs or the gain on a mixer he means the maximum db level a song would sound through a club system before clipping.

At least I think thats what he means haha.

ok
if you get this software

http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/


and you analyze the gain of a song, the standard I have found is 94 Db, I don't knwo if that equals 0Db, or 12 Db as I have seen on other places.

with this software I can fix the gain volume that a song is recorded, so if I the original volume that is recorded is at 96 Db, and it's clipping, then no matter how low I play the track, it will always clip, because the original gain of the track it's already set.
now with this software I change the gain volume that the track is recorded, let's say at 94 Db, and it originally won't clip.


this is important for me, because if I am sure that 94 Db is enough and will osund good, then I can set all my recrods at that volume, and the levels will the same or very similar.
now I can not set them at 96 Db, beacuse many tunes will clip at that volume.
Of Ocurse there are some that a 97 Db originally won't clip, but why I would want them to be that louder, instead of being the same volume as all my records, even if it's lower originally, but still more than enough to be played on a club system. Thats what i want to be sure about.

Thanks.

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He's not talking about the db level on the EQs or the gain on a mixer he means the maximum db level a song would sound through a club system before clipping.

I don't htink its that, beacuse the higher voluem i have seen on a record without clipping is 98 Db, and I am sure that clubs can sound way louder than 98 Db.


Thanks.

first, you need to figure out what you're talking about cause you're confusing the bejeezus out of us

then come back and ask your question

i suggest reading something, anything credible

try google, search for something like decibel

the internet isn't just for downloading porn and talking about music

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Originally posted by Tony Morello the internet isn't just for downloading porn and talking about music

IV BEEN WAISTING MY LIFE!

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Originally posted by Tony Morello first, you need to figure out what you're talking about cause you're confusing the bejeezus out of us then come back and ask your question i suggest reading something, anything credible try google, search for something like decibel the internet isn't just for downloading porn and talking about music

Sorry , but maybe it's the software I am using that it's confusing me

do you knwo of any other software that will analyze the gain volume that a song is recorded?

Mayeb That Way, I can Analyze with both programs the gain volumes, and talk to you in the way that you understand.

Thanks.

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