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-- You know you've done f-d up when anotha brotha calls you "fake" (aka McNabb pwn3d)
You know you've done f-d up when anotha brotha calls you "fake" (aka McNabb pwn3d)
It should come as no surprise that Philly fans are the most thankless and vicious bunch, that's what a culture of mediocrity will do for ya.
But this one, coming from no less than NAACP chief takes the cake in "kickin' da brotha when he's down". Damn... (read on):
from http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/att...ves/002540.html
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Donovan McNabb: Mediocre at best By J. Whyatt Mondesire Hey McNabb! Yo--Donny! I'm calling you man. Hey, soup guy, over here! Donovan E. McNabb, you hear me callin' you. Will you please pay attention? For a whole lot of years now, we've heard you crying aloud about being taken seriously as a black quarterback who can camp out in the pocket and deliver rifle shots across midfield right into the fingertips of the fleetest of wideouts and tight ends. Say, like a Doug Williams, the brilliant Grambling star quarterback of a generation ago who went on to break a Super Bowl record for touchdown passes in 1988. Well....well...I've seen you Donovan E. McNabb--in your formative years as well as your mid-career development--and one thing is certain. Donovan E. McNabb you're no Doug Williams. (The Grambling all-star completed 18 of 29 passes for 340 yards and four touchdowns, capping it off with 35 points in the fourth quarter alone. He followed that performance with three conference championships in 2000, '01 and '02. Your record is another matter entirely. In fact this whole dismal season so far has really been a testament of fallen dreams and lost opportunities most of which belongs at your feet (or should I say hands) and that of your coach, Andy Reid who has allowed you to perpetuate a fraud on the field while hiding behind excuses dripping in make-believe racial stereotypes. Normally this column talks very little about sports because the games that grown men play pale in comparison to the great issues of racism, politics, social calamities, health crisis's, war and peace, etc.; which gives us plenty of fertile territory to explore and pontificate about. However, this week I felt compelled to offer some personal thoughts about your horrific on-field performances this season because at their core, there is a lie you have tried to use to hide the fact that in reality you actually are not that good. In essence Donny, you are mediocre at best. And trying to disguise that fact behind some concocted reasoning that African American quarterbacks who can scramble and who can run the ball are somehow lesser field generals than one who can summon up dead-on passes at a whim, is more insulting off the field than on. Your athleticism and unpredictability to sometimes run with the ball earlier in your career not only confused defenses, it also thrilled Eagles fans. At last, said many of us, now we have a multifaceted offensive threat whose talents threaten to not just dominate the NFC East Division, but maybe the whole NFL for several years. We were elated. We were in awe. We celebrated the boss's giving you that huge lifetime salary deal which meant we'd have you around until it was time for you to join the other retired stars in television's broadcast booth. But then you played the race card and practically all of us fell for your hustle. You scammed us man and there's no way any longer to refrain from "keepin' it real." We could have remained silent too, if you had found another way to remain effective and a winner. But when your mediocre talent becomes so apparent it's time to call it out. Through the first four games, you completed 110 of 174 passes (63.2 percent) for a league-leading 1,333 yards and 11 touchdowns. However, in your last five games, you connected on just 101 of 183 passes (55.2 percent) for 1,174 yards and five touchdowns, while throwing six interceptions, two of which clearly were game losers. The sports hernia you suffered after the team's Week 3 win over Oakland clearly is a mega factor in the latter numbers. But who can forget your mind numbing fourth-quarter collapse in last year's Super Bowl against New England. Andy Reid may not have seen it. Owner Jeff Lurie may have missed it on the videotaped replay. But Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder "saw" it. You choked brother. The brash and bombastic Terrell Owens may have committed the unpardonable sin of going public with his put down, but was he fundamentally wrong? The pressure, the hype, the clock--they all just converged and your nerve collapsed under their combined weight. Mediocre isn't horrible in and of itself. Most of us don't live up to our dreams. It's when we fake it that most of the rest of us get irritated. So, for you to continue to deny we fans (as well as yourself) one of the strongest elements of your game by claiming that "everybody expects black quarterbacks to scramble" not only amounts to a breach of faith but also belittles the real struggles of black athletes who've had to overcome real racial stereotypcasting in addition to downright segregation. College football in the South didn't drop its White Only wall until 1966 four years after James Meredith, while trying to enroll at Ole Miss, which went 10-0 that year, even as its practice field was covered federal troops who had bivouacked there. Earlier this month Sports Illustrated reporting pioneering black players in the vaunted SEC had to endure serious hardships, such as "Fritz Pollard, the black all-America at Brown during World War I, (who) had learned to spin on his back and thrust his cleats in the air when tackled, to protect himself from late hits; how Iowa State's Jack Trice was trampled to death during a 1923 game against Minnesota; and how in 1951, on the first play from scrimmage, an Oklahoma A&M player broke the jaw of Drake running back Johnny Bright, forcing him to abandon football and causing the school to withdraw in protest from the Missouri Valley Conference." Hey Donny, see any difference yet in your trumped up racial views and those pioneers? Taken together, your pretty decent arm, strong desire to win, and your instinctive ability to scramble in the backfield gave you an awesome package. Take away any one of the legs from this tripod, and whole thing falls flat as you are right now as you recuperate from the surgery that was long overdue the day you entered the hospital. Finally, your failure as a team leader off the field to my mind did as much as anything to exacerbate the debacle that has become synonymous with T.O.'s full name. Professional football is really more about money that sport. The fans know it. The players signs contracts for it. And, of course the owners know it, since they are first and last ones to count it when the season ends. Just think how the whole media circus could have been avoided had you had the courage to offer only a tiny fraction of your bonus this year to Owens and running back, Brian Westbrook. The gesture alone would have prompted these guys to run through walls for you. The rest of the team would have praised you. And what the heck were Lurie and team president Joe Banner going to do publicly if they objected or thought you had reach out-of-bounds. Fire you? Yeah right. Let's really do "keep it real." Leaders who make sacrifices are the stuff of legends. Who remembers a hoarder except for maybe Midas? Hey Donny...soup guy! Pull your head out of your million-dollar Campbell's soup bowl for a moment ask which current quarterback in fact made a gesture like that for members of his squad. Does the name Tom Brady ring a bell? Isn't he the guy who took home last year's Super Bowl ring while you standing in the soup line? |
fucked up and stupid McNabb is the best thing that happend to Philly since the Liberty Bell they need to stop complaining. And the NCAAP head needs to stfu and learn english.
I don't disagree entirely, but this guy is stepping way out of his bounds by saying anything. Mcnabb is arguably the best African-American quarterback in the NFL when healthy. If he choked in the Super Bowl, so what? It's one game and Mcnabb hasn't even been around a full five years left. He has plenty of time and talent to get another shot if hes in the right system with the right teammates. The NAACP is often good, but they should stick to what they know, which pretty clearly isn't sports.
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| Originally posted by tribu I don't disagree entirely, but this guy is stepping way out of his bounds by saying anything. Mcnabb is arguably the best African-American quarterback in the NFL when healthy. If he choked in the Super Bowl, so what? It's one game and Mcnabb hasn't even been around a full five years left. He has plenty of time and talent to get another shot if hes in the right system with the right teammates. The NAACP is often good, but they should stick to what they know, which pretty clearly isn't sports. |
that is f'd up ...
if they're going to talk about donovan mcnabb's ways, and him "screwing up" in the super bowl last year, i wonder what they would write about michael vick, who already has been in the nfl for 4 years, regular starter for 3, made the playoffs twice, and has 1 playoff win to show for ?? isn't michael vick supposed to be the "Savior" of the atlanta falcon franchise ??
now let's compare between philly and atlanta shall we ? philly is coming off some serious injuries to their roster, and lost practically 40% of their offense (t.o.). atlanta hasn't lost anything . they still have dunn and crumpler, and their defense is the same. yet both teams are reeling. philly has an excuse. what's atlanta's excuse ?
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in addition, some black friends of mine have told me they don't like mcnabb, because he isn't "black enough" . could this be a factor to this story ? i dont know about other black people's feelings on mcnabb .
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| Originally posted by LeopoldStotch [edit] in addition, some black friends of mine have told me they don't like mcnabb, because he isn't "black enough" . could this be a factor to this story ? i dont know about other black people's feelings on mcnabb . |
If McNabb is released and he is paid less than franchise tag money, that team is getting a great deal. With the exception of about 6.5 teams(NE, IND, NYG, CIN, SD, ATL, PIT.5), Mcnabb is an upgrade at the quarterback spot. Think of all the middle tier teams who would love to have him like Buffalo, Dallas, or Kansas City.
The simple fact of the matter is that NFL quarterbaks who scramble get injured. Remember how Vick missed about 10 weeks last year? Dante Culpepper, a qb more like Mcnabb than Vick, is out this year. The NFL is a hard hitting league, and a good way to end your career is to cross the line of scrimmage holding the ball. By not scrambling, Mcnabb is lengthening his career. One of the reasons I think the Eagles brought in Mike Mcmahon from Detroit is because he is a smart running quarterback. He's a below average passer, but he makes very good scrambling decisions and having him on the Eagles gives Mcnabb something to learn from so that he can use his running ability safer on the ground. Those crazy highlight-reel scrambles might look good on highlight shows but those are also a good way to take a hard hit and get hurt.
As far as the Falcons go, I think they need to look at the Indianapolis Colts as a model for building their team. Crumpler is great off the end, but Vick needs someone else to throw to; Michael Jenkins doesn't but it. A big physical receiver would propel the Falcons a great ways towards a championship by giving them an ecplosive offense but that doesnt rely on Vick's ability to create but rather lets him use that weapon in diguise when I think it's most effective. Like I said in another thread, if your offense can reel off 35 points a game, your defense doesn't have to play as well. Vick has a cannon of an arm and with the right receiver(maybe T.O.) could make teams look downright silly week in and week out.
The Blue Jackets suck, so I'm more or less devoid of hockey this year...
Man first Bernard Hopkins takes a run at him on the jim rome show and now this.i am not a Mcnabb fan (being a bucs fan you learn to hate him) but he has done more with less the past 5 years
like I said - you get no love in Philly even if you win 1000 times. I bet you that even if they won SB last year, you'd hear fans bitching this year if performance was the same. I sh!t you not. It's never enough. McNabb ain't goin' no where - he's a darling of the front office and even if the guv'nor and mayor himself cried "bloody murder", Jeff Lurie would just nod and continue writing McNabb checks.
What he needs, though, is to get defence back to 2004/2002 standards, get a decent set of receivers. Special teams need to be completely overhauled and you need to get someone physical to cover WR's. Basically, I have a feeling that next year will bring many new faces to eagles line-up. Especially with all the TO money that's been freed up. Now, who do you put in TO position? That's right.. there aren't many decent WRs on the market at the moment. I do think TO is a jerk off, if for nothing else - for hiring Drew Rosenhaus. I bet he would still be with the team if Drew didn't start rousing TO up.
And one other thing - I do agree with one comment, if McNabb would have shared some of his chunky soup bonus with Westbrook and TO - he'd have a set of killers on his hands, who would also put a ring on one of them. But TO is to much of an a-hole and selfish prick for anyone to consider giving him even a dollar. I personally wouldn't even piss on him if he was on fire, so, I don't blame Donnie for not going the Tom Brady route.
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| Originally posted by tribu The simple fact of the matter is that NFL quarterbaks who scramble get injured. Remember how Vick missed about 10 weeks last year? Dante Culpepper, a qb more like Mcnabb than Vick, is out this year. |
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| Originally posted by K.I.K.E. And McNair, another afro-american that had a shot to win the Superbowl. |
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| But who can forget your mind numbing fourth-quarter collapse in last year's Super Bowl against New England. |
Mcnabb was neither the first nor will he be the last to crumble under New England's relentless defense. This is hardly a failing and a poor argument, but like I said before, this NAACP member clearly isn't that schooled on football.
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| Originally posted by bangoSkank Mcnabb was neither the first nor will he be the last to crumble under New England's relentless defense. This is hardly a failing and a poor argument, but like I said before, this NAACP member clearly isn't that schooled on football. |
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If the Eagles get a quality WR to replace T.O this offseason there is no way I cant see them being conteders...mostly cuz of McNabb I dont know why but since T.O everyone hates on Donovan this is a Pro-Bowl MVP esque QB were talkin about here..why all the hate...cuz he isnt YO YO DIZ BE YA NIGGA DONOVAN FOR DA CAMPBELLS SOUP EAT UP OR ILL BUS THAT CAP YO!
i know philly is a tough town ..
how could a city with donovan mcnabb, allen iverson, and bobby abreu playing in their own city be griping about not having quality sports teams in their city ?
maybe it's those philly chessesteaks talking ...
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| Originally posted by LeopoldStotch i know philly is a tough town .. how could a city with donovan mcnabb, allen iverson, and bobby abreu playing in their own city be griping about not having quality sports teams in their city ? maybe it's those philly chessesteaks talking ... |
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| Mcnabb was neither the first nor will he be the last to crumble under New England's relentless defense. |
I think one thing Donovan and the Eagles have been missing throughout their Buffalo Billsesque post-season run is a running game. No offense to Bryan Westbrook, Duce Staley, and the other backs who have come through, but none of these guys are doing very much to keep the pressure off Mcnabb. A big part of that is on Andy Reid too.
As for the Super Bowl, I think Mcnabb's screwup is exaggerated; yes, he made some mistakes, but it's not all on him. 3 INTs is alot, but it looks like alot less when you see that he had 51 pass attempts. Down 10 points with 9 minutes to play isn't a favorable situation for anyone and Mcnabb simply couldn't get them close enough for a tying field goal. Nevermind that he was playing well all game long. Nevermind that New England's defense may have been that good to shut down the eagles. Point the finger at Mcnabb for not being able to pull a miracle out of his ass with average to above average talent around him. 
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