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Dual Layer DVD Burning ... need help

Need help on what program that supports "Dual Layer DVD Burning"

I have Nero 6.3

Another friend tell me I need Nero 7

Any help guys?

hhhmm
u need a Dual layer DVD (expensive) and a dual layer burner thats for sure

as for Nero 7 Ultra, i have a 8 gig dual layer dvd image and nero reads it fine, and says it can burn it all in one track and session.

So i guess Nero 7 does the trick

btw where do u get dual layer dvds and how much r they?

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Originally posted by Engine9 hhhmm u need a Dual layer DVD (expensive) and a dual layer burner thats for sure as for Nero 7 Ultra, i have a 8 gig dual layer dvd image and nero reads it fine, and says it can burn it all in one track and session. So i guess Nero 7 does the trick btw where do u get dual layer dvds and how much r they?

I got a ...

Pioneer DVR-110D Black DVD Writer DVD +/-R/RW 16x16x8x6 6x DVD+/- Dual layer IDE OEM

It was like 55 bucks at PC VILLAGE

yea that will work
but u also need a dual layer DVD disk

those are hard to find, and at the store by my house its like 5 bucks for one DVD

so if its a movie just use a program like
DVD Shrink and cut down the size to a normal 4.5 dvd, thats what im going to do with the 8 gig movie i have

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Originally posted by Engine9 yea that will work but u also need a dual layer DVD disk those are hard to find, and at the store by my house its like 5 bucks for one DVD so if its a movie just use a program like DVD Shrink and cut down the size to a normal 4.5 dvd, thats what im going to do with the 8 gig movie i have

I heard about that ... doesn't it kill the res on the movie though?

oh shit, you were asking about the disk not the dvd burner, my bad ... no idea how much they cost.

looks like Nero 6 has some dual-layer capability.
http://www.nero.com/de/PR_2005_02_22.html

1. check for firmware updates for your burner.
2. google the media you have to find out if others had problems.
3. check for updates to Nero 6 or maybe just upgrade to Nero 7.. (see below)

Current Nero 6 User?
Then register NOW and receive a special Upgrade offer to Nero 7 Ultra Edition.

GL

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL I heard about that ... doesn't it kill the res on the movie though? oh shit, you were asking about the disk not the dvd burner, my bad ... no idea how much they cost.

The quality will be great. You'll never be able to tell the difference.

We sell DVD+R DLs at work for like $30 for 5. They arent worth it yet. Just compress it onto a regular disk.

^^ Yeah, its been my experience that you can only really tell the difference on a higher-end TV or HDTV.

Most of the CD/DVD Software has supported DL for the last year or so!
As for movies MPEG2 at full quality is about 2-3gig per hour of video depending on the format and audio.
So therefore a 60-90min movie will fit on the standard non-DL DVD media.
It's all the other crap they put on a DVD9 including previews , multiple audio tracks and subtitles that use the rest.

If you use a tool like DVDShrink you can make the movie fit on a standard DVD4.5 with little or no loss of quality.

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL I heard about that ... doesn't it kill the res on the movie though? oh shit, you were asking about the disk not the dvd burner, my bad ... no idea how much they cost.

Nah, just use DVD shrink, you can't tell the difference in quality.

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Originally posted by Engine9 yea that will work but u also need a dual layer DVD disk those are hard to find, and at the store by my house its like 5 bucks for one DVD so if its a movie just use a program like DVD Shrink and cut down the size to a normal 4.5 dvd, thats what im going to do with the 8 gig movie i have

try www.cwo.ca

these peeps are dirt cheap when it comes to Blank media...

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Originally posted by Shaya007 try www.cwo.ca these peeps are dirt cheap when it comes to Blank media...

but the quality of the media sucks most of the time

dont cheap out on good blank dvd media. if its just for quick storage then yes, but for movies and shit, the data will degrade much quicker if its bad, making the dvd unusable

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Originally posted by smuncky but the quality of the media sucks most of the time dont cheap out on good blank dvd media. if its just for quick storage then yes, but for movies and shit, the data will degrade much quicker if its bad, making the dvd unusable

Nothing worse than pulling out an old CD-R, and finding out it no longer works because you decided to save an extra few dollars. If you didn't write that data somewhere else, it's pretty much lost forever.

^

What brands do you two recommend?

CD-Rs?

I like Memorex personally.

Just don't go cheapo-brand and you should be fine.

for dvd+/-r get TY (Taiyo Yuden) blanks. This is not the brand name of them, it is the code that is put on them to see who made them. then some company buys them (ie maxell or fujifilm) and puts their name on them.

so how do u find them? well before, MIJ (made in japan) dvd blanks usually meant that they were high quality blanks, like TY quality, but now most/all of the big name stores dont sell MIJ media. usually its MIT (made in taiwan).

if u want to buy TY blanks, go to NCIX.com and they have deals on TY media, especially at this time of the year i think theyll have something. if u dont wanna do that, try sticking to MIJ media if u can find it and if not, then MIT maxell and fujifilm spindles are usually a good choice. memorex is a hit and miss brand. try staying away from mom and pop shops where they claim to have TY media for a very low price. if its too good to be true, then it probably is.

thers also a lot of articles/discussions on differnet codes that are used on blank media which you coudl read up on. im not to sure about DL stuff since its not that common yet.

hope that helps a bit

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Originally posted by smuncky but the quality of the media sucks most of the time dont cheap out on good blank dvd media. if its just for quick storage then yes, but for movies and shit, the data will degrade much quicker if its bad, making the dvd unusable

hey if I can still view the data 10,000 times instead of 100,000 then be it!LOL!

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Originally posted by Shaya007 hey if I can still view the data 10,000 times instead of 100,000 then be it!LOL!

not really abotu how many times u can view it, but if u can view it after a long period of time

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL I got a ... Pioneer DVR-110D Black DVD Writer DVD +/-R/RW 16x16x8x6 6x DVD+/- Dual layer IDE OEM It was like 55 bucks at PC VILLAGE

LOL.. i think i got the same one

taiyo yuden and ritek/ridata would be the top choices for dvdr media....
as for dvdshrink, it is a great piece of software to compress video to fit on a single layer dvd+/-r until dual layer blank media drops significantly in price. when using dvdshrink, set it to perform deep analysis and set it to 'smooth' for quality enhancements, remove any subtitles that you dont need to allow more space for the actual movie. remove the extras if you want too. the more bullshit that you remove, the better the quality of the final outcome will be.
dvdshrink is the easiest and fastest way to compress video but is not the best way. the compressed video looks fine on most televisions unless you got a huge screen (40+ inches).

the best way to compress would be to use CCE (Cinema Craft Encoder). set it to at least 5 passes and the video will be great. mind you, this would take a few hours. the last time i use CCE and did 5-pass, it took about 8 hours. you can download a frontend for CCE called DVD Rebuilder and give that a whirl.

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Originally posted by smuncky not really abotu how many times u can view it, but if u can view it after a long period of time

and the quality of the material used to manufacture the disc.
if the material is shit, the pits and lands that the write laser "burns" on to the disc would be distorted and a lot of players would have trouble reading the disc.

While we're on the topic of DVD-Rs, we have spindles on sale right now. 100 TDK DVD+R or DVD-R's for $23.49.

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Originally posted by Stingray While we're on the topic of DVD-Rs, we have spindles on sale right now. 100 TDK DVD+R or DVD-R's for $23.49.

who is "we"?

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